• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Batman: Mask of the Phantasm coming to Blu-ray next month.

I'm going to be the voice of descent here and say this movie was not very good and it's all your fault...

...come at me

Y5XcvsR.gif
 

Scavenger

Member
Also available with an overpriced T-Shirt on wbshop.com.

Yeah!!!!!...
DTS HD-Master Audio 2.0 Stereo - English

What the hell?....
Nothing wrong with 2.0 audio. The DTS HD 2.0 track is most likely original Dolby Stereo track, so it's a 4 channel surround track.

Is this print on demand? Will it not be on Amazon?
Yes, manufactured on demand, but the actual disc is properly pressed and no BD-R. Amazon and a few other webshops sell them.
 
Nothing wrong with 2.0 audio. The DTS HD 2.0 track is most likely original Dolby Stereo track, so it's a 4 channel surround track.

Yeah, we covered this earlier in the thread. It's almost certainly the original theatrical mix, which is most likely the only mix that exists.

Pro Logic (and Pro Logic II, and IIx, and IIz) decoders in modern receivers decode this stuff great (and use bass management to route the lows to your subwoofer if you have one), though you may have to jump through some hoops to get it working (Playstations may need to be set to output 2.0 audio only, temporarily, as if they output this as 5.1 or 7.1 the receiver may get confused and refuse to engage DSP modes).

Pro Logic IIz, the latest incarnation, actually takes these 2.0 Dolby Stereo tracks and outputs them as (up to) 9.1 surround.

I still haven't seen this. Streaming legally anywhere?

It's streaming all over the place in SD (Google Play, iTunes, YouTube, etc), but I'd bet that they release it streaming in HD when the Blu Ray comes out.

There was a 720p version floating around but it looked like an upscale.
 

a916

Member
Yeah, we covered this earlier in the thread. It's almost certainly the original theatrical mix, which is most likely the only mix that exists.

Pro Logic (and Pro Logic II, and IIx, and IIz) decoders in modern receivers decode this stuff great (and use bass management to route the lows to your subwoofer if you have one), though you may have to jump through some hoops to get it working (Playstations may need to be set to output 2.0 audio only, temporarily, as if they output this as 5.1 or 7.1 the receiver may get confused and refuse to engage DSP modes).

Pro Logic IIz, the latest incarnation, actually takes these 2.0 Dolby Stereo tracks and outputs them as (up to) 9.1 surround.
.

I'm not sure what this means...

Does it just replicate the signal to the other speakers in the room? Effectively dividing the speakers in the room into left and right?
 
I'm not sure what this means...

Does it just replicate the signal to the other speakers in the room? Effectively dividing the speakers in the room into left and right?

No, there is surround information built into Dolby "Stereo". Left, Center, Right, and (mono) Surround. Phase and sum information is used to put that into 2 tracks. Decoders pull it back out into four tracks.

The algorithms in Dolby Pro Logic take all that information and interpolates what it thinks would be in the other speakers if you have more than four.

It's far more convincing than you might think.

If you are really curious it's worth reading the Wikipedia articles. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Stereo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Pro_Logic
 
Dolby 2.0 surround tracks are great!

You get two for the price of one: a nice balanced mix for those using just tv speakers and a surround mix for those with a great receiver.

All that in a normal stereo file.
 

a916

Member
No, there is surround information built into Dolby "Stereo". Left, Center, Right, and (mono) Surround. Phase and sum information is used to put that into 2 tracks. Decoders pull it back out into four tracks.

The algorithms in Dolby Pro Logic take all that information and interpolates what it thinks would be in the other speakers if you have more than four.

It's far more convincing than you might think.

If you are really curious it's worth reading the Wikipedia articles. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Stereo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Pro_Logic

Whoa that's crazy! I just built a theatre room and it dawned on me that Netflix only does 5.1... so when I saw 2.0 I was like no :(

Pretty interesting little codec.
 
Always wondered what happened to the Joker at the end.
Where does he end up after the Phantasm drag him in that smoke ?

There's a follow-up comic that handwaves it as
Andrea realizeing that he's totally bonkers and basically a totally different guy from the ruthless mobster who killed her father, so she hesitates before killing him and he escapes.
 
There's a follow-up comic that handwaves it as
Andrea realizeing that he's totally bonkers and basically a totally different guy from the ruthless mobster who killed her father, so she hesitates before killing him and he escapes.

I always hear about this. Is there a trade or selection that collects this, by chance?
 

MattKeil

BIGTIME TV MOGUL #2
Out of curiosity, what does HD do for animation? It's not like live-action where you can see more details.

A tremendous amount, especially when properly remastered. The Shout Factory remaster of Transformers: The Movie actually revealed drawn detail in many scenes that was literally unseeable on the big screen at the time due to film transfer processes used then. And continued to be unseeable on home video due to the poor transfers used through the years for VHS and DVD releases. The Blu-ray remaster of Transformers: The Movie released last year is quite literally the best the film has ever looked in any medium, and is the first time the painstaking work of the animators can be seen in full by the viewer.

This is just one example of dozens, of course. A proper remaster of an animated film is glorious.
 

Scavenger

Member
Pre-order is also up on WOW-HD/Deepdiscount and other stores owned by DirecToU. €18.90/£16.59 on WOW-HD with free international shipping.
 
Top Bottom