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Contica
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I dig the title. Makes me excited for what's in store. Many of the supposedly better suggestions in that other thread are just too obvious and downright cheesy to me.
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Jurassic GAF |OT| The Park is closed, the World is open
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Honestly, it would've just made sense to go with "The Lost Park: Jurassic World".
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Contica
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But that sounds like fanfiction from the asylum.
MoonsaultSlayer
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"Jurassic Park is such a dumb name. I wish they changed the name before making it a movie. I'm going to pre-judge the film and hold this grudge against it until I see it and then have my bias confirmed."
I do this all the time. "What would it have been like back then with our current mindsets?"
I imagine my parents keeping me from seeing Land Before Time because of discussion on the web over Ebert's ho-hum review. Stupid.
I do this all the time. "What would it have been like back then with our current mindsets?"
I imagine my parents keeping me from seeing Land Before Time because of discussion on the web over Ebert's ho-hum review. Stupid.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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But no one's pre-judging this because of the name. They're just saying it's not a very good name. It's not. And it's fine to say that. People who are wary of the movie are so because they didn't enjoy the prior film (which is a pretty solid reason to be wary), not the name.
Also your hypothetical is silly because who the hell in their right mind would say Jurassic Park is a bad name? lol Even Jurassic World is a great name.
Also your hypothetical is silly because who the hell in their right mind would say Jurassic Park is a bad name? lol Even Jurassic World is a great name.
MoonsaultSlayer
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If Jurassic Park was a new IP and the word/phrase wasn't a pop culture phenomenon, you bet yer ass(ic park) people would be complaining about the ratio of Jurassic animals vs other eras and why they couldn't use something else.
I'm either being too cynical or you're giving we forum folk too much credit lol.
brandonh83
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I don't get what's bad about the title. It's a title with a subtitle. It makes sense with marketing. People will immediately know what it is.
It's also a pretty cool sounding subtitle. I think it has a majestic ring to it. I'm not sure what they could have called it that absolutely everyone would've been on board with.
If I had the ability to change it, I think the only thing I would do would be title it Jurassic World: The Fallen Kingdom. Adding "the" makes it sound a bit more firm or something, but it is what it is.
It's also a pretty cool sounding subtitle. I think it has a majestic ring to it. I'm not sure what they could have called it that absolutely everyone would've been on board with.
If I had the ability to change it, I think the only thing I would do would be title it Jurassic World: The Fallen Kingdom. Adding "the" makes it sound a bit more firm or something, but it is what it is.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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It's not bad. It's not Genisys or some such shit. It's just not particularly good either. It's aggressively generic (so much so that, again, it's functionally meaningless - the title could be used for Jurassic Park, The Lost World, and Jurassic World and it would immediately work, because it's so generic) and just kind of bland is all. The kind of heavily focus tested name a marketing exec. would come up with for maximum cool, and ultimately it's just kind of there.
There's a reason so many people's thoughts immediately went to "this sounds like a spin-off game".
And again though, despite that, I really don't give a shit about the name one way or another anyway, because the franchise is already screwy as hell in the name department.
There's a reason so many people's thoughts immediately went to "this sounds like a spin-off game".
And again though, despite that, I really don't give a shit about the name one way or another anyway, because the franchise is already screwy as hell in the name department.
ExactlyIt's not bad. It's not Genisys or some such shit. It's just not particularly good either. It's aggressively generic (so much so that, again, it's functionally meaningless - the title could be used for Jurassic Park, The Lost World, and Jurassic World and it would immediately work, because it's so generic) and just kind of bland is all. The kind of heavily focus tested name a marketing exec. would come up with for maximum cool.
There's a reason so many people's thoughts immediately went to "this sounds like a spin-off game".
And again though, despite that, I really don't give a shit about the name one way or another anyway, because the franchise is already screwy as hell in the name department.
brandonh83
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I don't see how it's "aggressively generic" compared to other subtitles for... everything else really. If it's a bad subtitle all subtitles are bad IMO. I don't see what's less aggressively generic about Empire Strikes Back or Return of the King or The Lost World or The Last Jedi. I just see subtitles that describe the story.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Because it's a subtitle that readily describes every story in the series. That's not true of any of those other subtitles you listed (well, Lost World could apply to JPIII, but JPIII itself is a retread of both movies and both books ). That's what I mean by generic, and what I'm getting at when I say it's functionally meaningless, even if, literally speaking it does have meaning.
). That's what I mean by generic, and what I'm getting at when I say it's functionally meaningless, even if, literally speaking it does have meaning.brandonh83
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Because it's a subtitle that readily describes every story in the series. That's not true of any of those other subtitles (well, Lost World could apply to JPIII, but JPIII itself is a retread of both movies and both books
But we don't know how it plays out or what double meanings it could have. It's also the first sequel where they go back to the actual fallen park ruins. I just think like with most other things about these new movies that some are just being irrationally hard on it. We just got the title and kneejerk negativity and assumptions already permeate it like we know everything there is to know about it.
Not saying you guys can't like it or whatever, it just seems more than obvious to me that they can't please some of you no matter what
it just seems out of the bounds of reason to me.Hate? Man, I just need to get it through my head that some of you guys are just in a totally different plane of reality than I am when it comes to this shit.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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I mean, I explicitly acknowledged that it will have a meaning to JW2, but my point is that you could easily construe a solid, layered interpretation of the title in relation to the past movies too. It lacks specificity.
And I'm not being negative. I'm just not being positive. Like I said, it's in no way overtly bad, at least IMO. There's nothing about it that makes me dislike it, and it's a perfectly serviceable title. I'm just explaining why it's, at least in my opinion, particularly good either. It's neutral.
It's ¯_(ツ_/¯.
And I'm not being negative. I'm just not being positive. Like I said, it's in no way overtly bad, at least IMO. There's nothing about it that makes me dislike it, and it's a perfectly serviceable title. I'm just explaining why it's, at least in my opinion, particularly good either. It's neutral.
It's ¯_(ツ
_/¯.brandonh83
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I mean, I explicitly acknowledged that it will have a meaning to JW2, but my point is that you could easily construe a solid, layered interpretation of the title in relation to the past movies too. It lacks specificity.
And I'm not being negative. I'm just not being positive. Like I said, it's in no way overtly bad, at least IMO. There's nothing about it that makes me dislike it, and it's a perfectly serviceable title. I'm just explaining why it's, at least in my opinion, particularly good either. It's neutral.
It's ¯_(ツ
Maybe that's where I disagree as 2 and 3 were on a different island and this title seems to be about the fall of Jurassic World specifically. Jurassic World had the brief return to the old park, but this is the first one where it actually seems to be about, or a major point being the ruins of this fallen place.
I didn't say it!
WhiteRabbitEXE
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I think you're fundamentally misunderstanding me, because 2 and 3 being on different islands and the specific intent of the title in relation to the specific movie that received the title have nothing against my actual point, but I can only go on so much with "I don't like it, I don't hate it, I don't really care anyway" before I make the whole thread boring as fuck, so *shrug*.
brandonh83
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I think you're fundamentally misunderstanding me, because 2 and 3 being on different islands and the specific intent of the title in relation to the specific movie that received the title have nothing against my actual point, but I can only go on so much with "I don't like it, I don't hate it, I don't really care anyway" before I make the whole thread boring as fuck, so *shrug*.
I get what you're saying, I'm just seeing it differently as this particular story is legitimately involving the actual fallen park. That I guess is where the perspectives clash.
Demoncarnotaur
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The logos lack of consistency with the past sequels bugged me, so I whipped this up.
MoonsaultSlayer
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I just don't know why we can't detach ourselves from Transformers or knights and wizards when reading that subtitle. It says more about one's narrow mindedness and frame of reference more than the actual title.
It fits fine and I'm sure has multiple meanings as I've posted about yesterday (fall of InGen, the park, the island, Hammond's goals vs his former partner's etc)
Hell, maybe that's the name of that guy's "museum" or the operation name he orchestrated to see Hammond's dream fall.
Or it's about wizard raptors and T-Rex knights battling giant robots because that's all my mind can think of when I read Fallen Kingdom....
In this context, it needs the "The" Brandon proposed.
It fits fine and I'm sure has multiple meanings as I've posted about yesterday (fall of InGen, the park, the island, Hammond's goals vs his former partner's etc)
Hell, maybe that's the name of that guy's "museum" or the operation name he orchestrated to see Hammond's dream fall.
Or it's about wizard raptors and T-Rex knights battling giant robots because that's all my mind can think of when I read Fallen Kingdom....
In this context, it needs the "The" Brandon proposed.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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her
WhiteRabbitEXE
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only if it ends in sudden but inevitable betrayal
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Took it a step further..
Okay, that is really neat looking, I'm not going to lie.
Why hasn't Universal hired you yet?
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
Aaaaand you sold me on magma.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
I think the implication is that the island will be destroyed (or has been) by fire bombing or a kickstarted volcano but also doubles as the state of InGen/Masrani as a result of the events in JW.
So the film will obviously be about rising from those ashes. Life finding a way and all that.
Jawmuncher
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I want lots of guns
https://brickset.com/article/28809/what-do-you-call-a-brick-dinosaur
This article about Jurassic Park Lego mentions Jurassic Park Comic that were to be released in 2011.
Did that happen? If yes, whats their name? Would like to give them a try.
This article about Jurassic Park Lego mentions Jurassic Park Comic that were to be released in 2011.
Did that happen? If yes, whats their name? Would like to give them a try.
Rex looks so strange in WorldBest tag team needs to come back tho.
DonMigs85
Member
Many of the dinos looked a touch exaggerated in World. I found the vibrating pink skin in the corners of their mouth hilarious when Rexy and Indominus roared.
She is an old lady.
For you.
The assumed lifespan a Rex is about 20 yeaes afair, assuming the franchise moves on in realtime, she is indeed a old lady
The assumed lifespan a Rex is about 20 yeaes afair, assuming the franchise moves on in realtime, she is indeed a old lady
She's a real milf.
Cow Mengde
Banned
The assumed lifespan a Rex is about 20 yeaes afair, assuming the franchise moves on in realtime, she is indeed a old lady
Nope. The research into the lifespan of a rex is incredibly flawed. It's trying to calculate life span based on around 30 specimens in what could be millions of rexes that lived in the span of a million years. 30 out of a sample size of millions is laughable.
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
Not really, no.
How are we supposed to assume anything about Dinosaurs then?
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
Forget dinosaurs. That precludes the overwhelming majority of all extinct species. Many are represented by far less than 30.
Shit, many are represented by less than 1.
Edit: And T-Rex actually has ~50 known specimens.
Depends. A lot of factors for life on earth were way different back then
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Whales and elephants are mammals with incomparable lifestyles though.
There's not a whole lot of clean comparison points for a 40-foot, bipedal, homethermic, land-based apex predator 10s of millions of years removed from the present.
For what it's worth, I'd imagine they'd probably live a good bit longer in captivity, assuming the amount of land provided in Jurassic.
(Rex's joints probably would have been shot to hell by World though, I'd imagine, lol)