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Poligaf episode 2010: The Empire Strikes Back

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Anticitizen One

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JoseJX said:
Reid I can understand, but what did you want Pelosi to do differently? The House passed the legisislation that Democrats wanted, it was the Senate that was largely ineffective.
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Pelosi didn't fight hard enough for public option.
 
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ClovingWestbrook

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Anticitizen One said:
Pelosi didn't fight hard enough for public option.
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:lol :lol :lol WHAT?!?! Are you serious? There was no way she was going to put other Dems on the line knowing that the Senate was a clusterfuck of posers who were never going to vote on it anyway. Sorry but regarding the health care bill, Pelosi is blameless IMO. Want to place blame? Look at Harry Reid.
 
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turnbuckle

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Anticitizen One said:
Pelosi didn't fight hard enough for public option.
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You are joking, right?


LovingSteam said:
:lol :lol :lol WHAT?!?! Are you serious? There was no way she was going to put other Dems on the line knowing that the Senate was a clusterfuck of posers who were never going to vote on it anyway. Sorry but regarding the health care bill, Pelosi is blameless IMO. Want to place blame? Look at Harry Reid.
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Blame Obama, Reid, Lincoln, Nelson, and a few Republicans who probably would've supported the bill but were just as spineless to vote against the party line.
 
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Arkansas: Boozman (R) defeats Lincoln (D)
Ohio: Portman (R) defeats Fisher (D)
North Dakota: Hoeven (R) defeats Potter (D)
Wisconsin: Johnson (R) defeats Feingold (D)
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Republicans cleanin' house.
 
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eznark

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Aaron Strife said:
And away we goooooooo


what
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Drudge baby, where all the news happens

EXIT POLLS:

Arkansas: Boozman (R) defeats Lincoln (D)
Ohio: Portman (R) defeats Fisher (D)
North Dakota: Hoeven (R) defeats Potter (D)
Wisconsin: Johnson (R) defeats Feingold (D)
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vas_a_morir

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I hope Rand Paul stops this practice in Kentucky of making me PAY the government to come and throw WATER on MY PROPERTY when they decide they want to do it. Less government. More tax cuts! Rand Paul for President.

Also, why do I have to get my electricity through the company the government tells me to? Wake up, America. They are controlling the free market. Wake up. What's next, what's next, what's next!!! *gasp* *gasp* *gasp*
 
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vas_a_morir

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Rand Paul gets it. Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Don't give a man a fish and make sure he never learns how to fish, you can have more fish for yourself, just like Jesus would have done.
 
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scorcho

testicles on a cold fall morning
Aaron Strife said:
okay

first of all

the polls in none of those states are closed yet

second

exit polls. how did president kerry turn out
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i imagine you're at the point where vodka actually tastes good.
 
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Chichikov

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LovingSteam said:
:lol :lol :lol WHAT?!?! Are you serious? There was no way she was going to put other Dems on the line knowing that the Senate was a clusterfuck of posers who were never going to vote on it anyway. Sorry but regarding the health care bill, Pelosi is blameless IMO. Want to place blame? Look at Harry Reid.
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The House version had the public option in it.
 
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Gaborn

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vas_a_morir said:
Rand Paul gets it. Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Don't give a man a fish and make sure he never learns how to fish, you can have more fish for yourself, just like Jesus would have done.
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You seem upset.
 
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ClovingWestbrook

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LOL @ Alaska. Turns out that in Alaska, a write in candidate must be either IN the lead or within .05% OF the lead by the end of the night for the ballots to be counted lol. If she is behind .06%, NONE of the votes count. Now, IF she is in the lead at the end of the night, we won't know until November 18th who actually won the election since that is the first day where Alaskan officials will actually open up the ballots to read the votes lol.

Chichikov said:
The House version had the public option in it.
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Crap, my bad. I don' t know how I forgot that. ugh I feel dumb.
 
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Pctx

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LovingSteam said:
If it wasn't for Pelosi, there wouldn't be a health care reform bill and most likely the financial regulation bill would be weaker. Pelosi has done a great job of forcing the President and Senate to move on a few important issues.
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The "health care reform" she passed was a fucking joke and I hope that shit gets rolled back.
 
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Gaborn

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Salazar said:
Nothing that kicking Rand in the nuts wouldn't alleviate.
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Violence is NEVER the answer... unless you REALLY REALLY disagree with a political candidate!

Some people seem to be rather sore losers.
 
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vas_a_morir

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Gaborn said:
You seem upset.
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Gaborn, you are a good guy. But not good enough to serve in the Army or enter my place of business, because Rand Paul has taught me that it's okay to hate, that it's my business, and the government should only be in the business of forcing people to kill brown people, 'cept queers, who are lucky not to be lynched. And don't recruit my kids.
 
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VALIS

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Arkansas: Boozman (R) defeats Lincoln (D)
Ohio: Portman (R) defeats Fisher (D)
North Dakota: Hoeven (R) defeats Potter (D)
Wisconsin: Johnson (R) defeats Feingold (D)
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Don't worry guys, all those petulant, naive votes for third party candidates will save us!!!
 
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Vanillalite

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LovingSteam said:
LOL @ Alaska. Turns out that in Alaska, a write in candidate must be either IN the lead or within .05% OF the lead by the end of the night for the ballots to be counted lol. If she is behind .06%, NONE of the votes count. Now, IF she is in the lead at the end of the night, we won't know until November 18th who actually won the election since that is the first day where Alaskan officials will actually open up the ballots to read the votes lol.



Crap, my bad. I don' t know how I forgot that. ugh I feel dumb.
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Holy shit is this cluster fuck for real?!?!?! :lol :lol :lol
 
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Aaron Strife

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LovingSteam said:
LOL @ Alaska. Turns out that in Alaska, a write in candidate must be either IN the lead or within .05% OF the lead by the end of the night for the ballots to be counted lol. If she is behind .06%, NONE of the votes count. Now, IF she is in the lead at the end of the night, we won't know until November 18th who actually won the election since that is the first day where Alaskan officials will actually open up the ballots to read the votes lol.
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Would their votes for EVERYTHING be discounted? That'd be kind of shitty.
 
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eznark

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Gary Whitta said:
Man I hope Prop 19 passes, maybe I can just spend the next two years stoned.
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I watched Book of Eli, the law clearly isn't stopping you


[before the auto ignore, I liked it]
 
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reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
vas_a_morir said:
Gaborn, you are a good guy. But not good enough to serve in the Army or enter my place of business, because Rand Paul has taught me that it's okay to hate, that it's my business, and the government should only be in the business of forcing people to kill brown people, 'cept queers, who are lucky not to be lynched. And don't recruit my kids.
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Actually, Gaborn is perfectly fine with private businesses denying customers the ability to use their facilities/services.
 
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BigSicily

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PistolGrip said:
You have a misconception of what Marxism is. Communism and Capitalism are economic systems. They dont define what economy is. Think of it in gaming terms. Wii and EyeToy controllers are two controllers that take a different approaches at how gamers can interact with a game. There are strength and weaknesses to each and as we learn and evolve you get hybrid systems like the Move and Kinect (smile).
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Hi Pistolgrip. Neat example, but Marxism as espoused the early proponents did have an economic component. If you're interested, this wikipedia entry on Marxian Economics is a good start.

avaya said:
1. Right, your strategy is to just ignore the point entirely. In 2010 wealth is not used to create new wealth. In the biggest market wealth is transferred via synthetic instruments. We do not invest anymore. We churn and burn.

2. I get it, you believe you are your own island.
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This is insane! In 2008, I took money that I earned for work I've done and invested in a smaller company listed on the TSX that had a PP which then used the funds to make a moderate to large sized base-metal VMS discovery. The company's doing very well and has created wealth for itself, for the region it's located in (employing many locals and the government gets something like 20% of profits) and wealth for it's shareholders. How was wealth not created?

This bullshit marxism crap is annoying: maybe by definition but in 2010 because of the capitalists... blah, blah...

Your entire world has been shaped by the free-market and 'wealth making wealth:' Intel and Apple were started by venture capitalism, Amgen and Genzyme, Google and Youtube, etc. The computer you're on, the internet, eating food harvested half way around the world 3 days ago; most every American luxery owes it's genesis to the free-market.

Do you have any idea what the policies you're advocating lead to? You're little 'wealth is only transferred' bullshit is predicated on the work of Robert Thomas Malthus, an idiot. You want to see how these static policies that follow from 'wealth can't create wealth' actually work? Talk to someone who lived in an SSR. It sucked. While you had a computer in the 1990s and were surfing for tits, the Soviet navy was still using mechanical computers to solve target and navigation solutions. One American SSN had roughly equivalent computing power to the entire Soviet Navy (dirty little secrets, p59). True fucking story.
 
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Particle Physicist

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Pctx said:
The "health care reform" she passed was a fucking joke and I hope that shit gets rolled back.
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Funny, I just had a lunch forum with a bunch of primary care physicians who were talking about how while the health care reform bill was not perfect, it is definitely a move in the right direction... and that they hope republicans don't repeal (or defund) the bill. so why exactly do you want it repealed?
 
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vas_a_morir

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People don't understand Rand Paul. He's not a liberterian. He's more! He's a "Liberterian ('cept queers)"

Government out of the lives of Americans ('cept queers)
Encouraging citizens to be honest with eachother ('cept queers)
Preserving the rights of families to raise their kids with love and care ('cept queers)

As a 24 year old college student, I'm damn tired of Progressive Communist Socialists raising MY taxes! You know who the biggest tax increase in American history came from? You guessed it, OBAMA. He wants us all to pay more.

(yeah, I'm really upset. I voted against him, guys. Don't lump me in with the 60 percent or so retards in my state, please.)
 
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Gaborn

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vas_a_morir said:
Gaborn, you are a good guy. But not good enough to serve in the Army or enter my place of business, because Rand Paul has taught me that it's okay to hate, that it's my business, and the government should only be in the business of forcing people to kill brown people, 'cept queers, who are lucky not to be lynched. And don't recruit my kids.
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I tend to think businesses SHOULD have the right to discriminate - and should face boycotts and public scorn for doing so. More on point however, DADT is a GOVERNMENT policy. Paul has specifically maintained that he supports the provisions of the civil rights act of 64 dealing with government discriminating. Similarly, I oppose DADT because I believe the government may NOT discriminate against it's citizens. I'm not aware of any statement by Rand Paul on the subject though. But it seems like you only looked superficially at what he said if that's what you took from it since you didn't even realize he said that. Typical.
 
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eznark

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vas_a_morir said:
People don't understand Rand Paul. He's not a liberterian. He's more! He's a "Liberterian ('cept queers)"

Government out of the lives of Americans ('cept queers)
Encouraging citizens to be honest with eachother ('cept queers)
Preserving the rights of families to raise their kids with love and care ('cept queers)

As a 24 year old college student, I'm damn tired of Progressive Communist Socialists raising MY taxes! You know who the biggest tax increase in American history came from? You guessed it, OBAMA. He wants us all to pay more.
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:lol let the meltdowns begin

time for that xanax
 
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