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Belgian comic criticised for racist depiction of Africans

Some panels from a Belgian comic book, 'Suske & Wiske', made the headlines in its home country yesterday. Its creators expected to make some waves with this issue, however they seemed to be oblivious to exactly what people would end up objecting to. The panels in question featured a fisherman encountering the African water spirit Mami Wata. The creators had some internal discussions about how this mythical figure would be depicted. She is typically described and depicted as a topless mermaid-like figure, and they were unsure if that would be appropriate for a comic whose target demographic includes children. They ended up going for it though, as this way they could be the most respectful to the character, and make a point that nudity is not inherently pornographic. When the comic was released however, this potential hurdle was eclipsed by something else. Meet the fisherman who stumbles onto her:
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The creators swiftly issued an apology, and regret that the breast-discussion made the racist imagery slip past so many parties of the publishing process. This is however not the comic's first run-in with unfortunate colonial-era depictions of black people. Early on in the comic's life, it has its own Tintin-esque excursions to Africa, where they made jokes about how savage the continent was.
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"This (Dutch equivalent of the N-word) is starting to swingdance! Perhaps he is more civilised than I thought!"

As gross and unfortunate as this is, the black and white drawings and crude artwork do reveal its age. Folks were too busy being enchanted by the exotic wonders of colonialism to care about the humanity of Africans. Surely they'd have learned their lesson in time, except that time was not when they faithfully recreated these in colour decades later, slurs and all. Even in the early 2000s, they still couldn't resist the thrall of racial caricatures.
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"Because it's King Boeloe birthday, he is handing out gifts to all his black peers."

While Belgium is slowly making progress on the Zwarte Piet issue, it seems like we still have a long road ahead of us with how black people are depicted. A Rwandan-Belgian writer is trying to turn this train-wreck into a teachable moment for illustrators. She asked for anyone who can to edit the panels and show how easy it is to respectfully depict a black person without evoking racist colonial stereotypes. Some examples have been popping up already, for those interested in the edits or the hashtags. If anyone has any English press coverage, feel free to link it. I looked around for a bit, but didn't seem to find any sources.
 

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This is all over 20th century Belgian comics. Thought it'd be gone by now, but maybe I was expecting too much.
 

Seesaw15

Member
At least they didn't make the skin jet black and the lips bright red. So some progress as a fan of European comics.
 
This is so ingrained into Franco-Belgium comics that I actually totally believe that no one even noticed the racist undertones.

It's a common design representing black people in comics. Growing up in France it took me a long time to understand where it actually came from and what it meant.
 
"Mami Wata"? The fuck outta here

Why? She's a mythological figure, the comic writers didn't invent her

No question about the racist drawings though

Regarding Tintin in the Congo, it was comissioned as pro-colonial propaganda, so no wonder it's overflowing with racism.
 
Let's look on the bright side there are no bright red lips and pitchblack skin. Good they are acknowledging and hopefully addressing the issue.

Flemish being racist.
What a surprise.

Also suske and Wiske is trash tier comics.

Well it's suske and wiske. A comic book that is a celebration of the small minded Flemish mentality. It's not that surprising.

A Flemish guy once cut you off in traffic or something?
 
Hmmmm. Not impressed with this shit. Really in 2017 artists are still even remotely confused about things like this. Sick to 2000AD folks. Read proper comics or just don't bother.
 

SxP

Member
I knew exactly what this was about before I opened the thread. There was a little article about the topless mermaid in the newspaper here in Holland today and they also had the panels itself. I really cannot image how this stuff can slip by so many editors.

On a different note, I love how the image is censored here. Won't anyone please think of the children!
 
I'm not sure what it's even supposed to depict.
It looks like he was made in Spore.

I knew exactly what this was about before I opened the thread. There was a little article about the topless mermaid in the newspaper here in Holland today and they also had the panels itself. I really cannot image how this stuff can slip by so many editors.
Yeah, there are so many people involved in comic creation. There are the people who sketch out the storyboards, there's people who ink, people who colour, all sorts of QA staff who proof-read and check for continuity errors, and everyone involved in the publishing process. That's even assuming they don't have focus groups or test audiences for these comics. The fact that this made it into store shelves blows my mind. You'd think that the Zwarte Piet stuff would have educated people by now, but it seems the only lessons that were learned were about the shades of lips and skin tone.
 
I grew up reading Suske & Wiske and the comic has a special place in my heart. I don't know how they'd be so blind as to not see how this is racist. The fuck is up with those lips?
 

retroman

Member
It's a bit depressing to see there's so little progress in the depiction of coloured people in some comics.

Here's an example of Sjors & Sjimmie, a Dutch comic that did change things. And that was back in 1975!

Pre-1975 Sjors & Sjimmie:
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Post-1975:
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More European comics should get with the times and follow this example.
 

Ratrat

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Its like a dogs mouth. Its not even an exageration of stereotypes so much as deliberately drawing them to look less human.
 

marzlapin

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He looks 98% like a regular dude but then those lips....yikes. Literally all the artist had to do was draw some regular-ass lips on him, damn.
 

Carn82

Member
< 70's stuff is awkard as hell. I only know Dutch/Belgian examples but it wouldnt surprise me if this was considered 'normal' around most Western-European countries.



Altough "Een Neger in het Dorp" actually has a "postive" story, it's basically about a religiously converted african who visits a small Dutch town, and people realise he is not a "savage". Using those quotes freely since it is still super awkward :p
 

Regginator

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Its like a dogs mouth. Its not even an exageration of stereotypes so much as deliberately drawing them to look less human.

What the fuck is this? Are those supposed to be... lips? I'm familiar with the "big red lips" racist stereotype, but this is on a whole new level.
 

Seiryoden

Member
I thought this was going to be about Tintin au Congo. Depressing to see these caricatures are still present in some European comics 80 years later.
 

Scavenger

Member
It's so weird to see there's so little progress in the depiction of coloured people in some comics.

Here's an example of Sjors & Sjimmie, a Dutch comic that did change things. And that was back in 1975!

Pre-1975 Sjors & Sjimmie:
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For those not speaking Dutch, Sjimmie also happens to speak in broken Dutch.
 
You a Walloon or something?
I don't Harbor much love for the Walloons either that continue to vote PS even after an nth scandal.

It's just that suske and Wiske is a horrible comic, that celebrates the small mindness of the Flemish countryside.

But as someone who is leaving on the Brussels periphery. I have to deal with all the actions to keep those parts Flemish speaking even if it's 80% French speaking like in Linkebeek.

Yet I never have any problem in Antwerp or as soon as I crossed the border to the Netherlands.
 
Belgium should be especially sensitive, given its horrendous colonial history. Tintin in the Congo was also pretty disgusting.

I find their exuse rather unconvincing.
 
I don't Harbor much love for the Walloons either that continue to vote PS even after an nth scandal.

It's just that suske and Wiske is a horrible comic, that celebrates the small mindness of the Flemish countryside.

But as someone who is leaving on the Brussels periphery. I have to deal with all the actions to keep those parts Flemish speaking even if it's 80% French speaking like in Linkebeek.

Yet I never have any problem in Antwerp or as soon as I crossed the border to the Netherlands.

Well, the entire Brussel-Halle-Vilvoorde thing is an administrative mess. Not sure how exactly this speaks to the entire Flemish countryside (which isn't even all that prevalent in that region) being "small-minded" though. Besides, out of the 5 Flemish provinces, I would be absolutely astounded if Flanders wasn't the most diverse, given its geographical proximity to Brussels.

Belgium should be especially sensitive, given its horrendous colonial history. Tintin in the Congo was also pretty disgusting.

I find their exuse rather unconvincing.

Well actually, this particular edition of the comic strip wasn't written by Belgium, but rather a group of people that number between 1 and 10, meaning that you can hardly deduce a country's disposition from this one particular incident. I hope we can agree on that.
 
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Its like a dogs mouth. Its not even an exageration of stereotypes so much as deliberately drawing them to look less human.
This practically borders on furry.

If I'm reading this right, there is at least no controversy about the naked boobs. That's some, uh, progress I guess.
You're right, but it's a pyrrhic victory in the grand scale of things. Within the context of these other racial caricatures, this nudity can easily be read as them exoticising women of colour, which is just another flavour of froggy shit to add to the pile. They might have meant well, but it's hard to separate this from the rest of the comic and history.
 
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