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[Sgt. Kabukiman]

Oh, I guess I forgot to mention Russel Mulcahy and Highlander. The first movie might not be that great (I still love it though) but it introduced a fantastic mythology. That was utterly ruined in the sequel.
edit: beaten!

 

[MattKeil]

To this day, I'm not sure people realize midochlorians don't cause the force in an organism, they just show force sensitivity/potential in it

"Without the midi-chlorians...we would have no knowledge of the Force." - Qui-Gon Jinn

The midi-chlorians are explicitly stated to be the method by which living beings interact with the Force. It's the only instance of science fiction in Star Wars, which is otherwise entirely science fantasy/space opera, and it is the worst narrative choice in the entire saga. And that's saying something.

 

[Inferno313]

Miyamoto.

You mean to tell me the Koopalings aren't Bowser's biological kids? You mean to tell me that Bowser Jr. is the only one?

Fuckin' nonsense.

 

[Taliban Stan]

Probably Lucas.

He actually went back and altered his creation and stopped selling the original version. People say "ruining childhood" way too much but with the pulling of the original copies and only selling the altered version, I can at least understand the phrase being applied.

People say Ridley Scott, but isn't the thing that Alien and Aliens are like two totally different genres of movies? I thought all over the place with crazy genre swings was a part of what made an Alien movie.

 

[Rktk]

Alien lore was already a mess before Ridley made Covenant [edit] or Prometheus.

 

[.JayZii]

Midichlorians gets a bad rep ... they are by far the most nothing of the changes =P

My vote goes to Ridley Scott and Alien

They're more just emblematic of the poorly explained demystification of Star Wars that the prequels excelled at.

 

[mr jones]

I'll go into nerd mode and say Robert Jordan - The Wheel of Time.

Utterly fantastic world. Completely uninteresting, rambling story.

 

[Poppy]

Miyamoto.

You mean to tell me the Koopalings aren't Bowser's biological kids? You mean to tell me that Bowser Jr. is the only one?

Fuckin' nonsense.

why you so interested about bowser making kids huh

 

[Fox318]

Has Spider Man ever really recovered since One More Day?

 

[Commanche Raisin Toast]

Who's that asshole that (permanently) ruined the Silent Hill games? Tom Hulet?

That guy. Fuck that guy.

 

[Maledict]

Obscure one, but Raymond E Feists Midkenia novels, which he's been releasing on and off for 25 years now. They started off as seminal 80s fantasy books, and he even co-wrote a trilogy set in that universe with Janny Wurts (the Empire Series) which is probably the best thing either of them wrote. But they've become so bad they are unreadable. Every new book is worsely written, every new book has to try and top the giant revelation from the previous book, and now they read more and more like the script of a bad computer game or rpg session.

Was telling really when he published the remastered version of the first novel, Magician, and it was worse than the original text as he'd added several thousand words in. Less is more sometimes.

 

[Oersted]

I love everything about this gif. The change of haircolour, the growth in size, the impossible angle he smacks against the couch, that this is supposed to cause a deadly injury, how utterly non-threatening the injury looks...

its just beautiful.

 

[Platy]

"Without the midi-chlorians...we would have no knowledge of the Force." - Qui-Gon Jinn

The midi-chlorians are explicitly stated to be the method by which living beings interact with the Force. It's the only instance of science fiction in Star Wars, which is otherwise entirely science fantasy/space opera, and it is the worst narrative choice in the entire saga. And that's saying something.

except it is not. It just say the xblarghs are made of jgflyfts !

This is not science fiction explanation since it does not include any science

They're more just emblematic of the poorly explained demystification of Star Wars that the prequels excelled at.

And if it was good explained it would be what the top quote is complaining !

It is not an explanation, it is just a new step

 

[louiedog]

Without getting into my beef with him for the show in general over time I'll keep it simple and say Steven Moffat with the Weeping Angels.

 

[Inferno313]

why you so interested about bowser making kids huh

Is Peach the mom? Is Pauline? Is Birdo?

WHY WON'T HE GIVE US THE ANSWERS!!!

 

[Ban Puncher]

Whoever was responsible for changing Cyclops optic blasts from red lasers to 'no you see his eyes are actually portals to a dimension filled with energy that punches'.

 

[Schlorgan]

Reading about Lucas (especially the stories out of the final days of LucasArts), he seems to not care about his franchise for anything other than a money machine.

 

[Poppy]

Is Peach the mom? Is Pauline? Is Birdo?

WHY WON'T HE GIVE US THE ANSWERS!!!

what if bowser is mom i dont know koopa biology

we need a statement from shiggy about the existence of bowser's genitals

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Whoever was responsible for changing Cyclops optic blasts from red lasers to 'no you see his eyes are actually portals to a dimension filled with energy that punches'.

I think that was Claremont?

 

[timshundo]

Nintendo.

Majora's Mask was all a dream.

Spoiler

/s

 

[DiipuSurotu]

Kazushige Nojima with Final Fantasy VII, X and XV.

 

[elrechazado]

Obscure one, but Raymond E Feists Midkenia novels, which he's been releasing on and off for 25 years now. They started off as seminal 80s fantasy books, and he even co-wrote a trilogy set in that universe with Janny Wurts (the Empire Series) which is probably the best thing either of them wrote. But they've become so bad they are unreadable. Every new book is worsely written, every new book has to try and top the giant revelation from the previous book, and now they read more and more like the script of a bad computer game or rpg session.

Was telling really when he published the remastered version of the first novel, Magician, and it was worse than the original text as he'd added several thousand words in. Less is more sometimes.

Totally agree
DBZ level " oh here's the REAL big bad"

 

[UnemployedVillain]

"Without the midi-chlorians...we would have no knowledge of the Force." - Qui-Gon Jinn

The midi-chlorians are explicitly stated to be the method by which living beings interact with the Force. It's the only instance of science fiction in Star Wars, which is otherwise entirely science fantasy/space opera, and it is the worst narrative choice in the entire saga. And that's saying something.

No, you misread. He said we would have no knowledge of the force. Think of all the things having to do with astronomy and interstellar knowledge that we only know because of their effects on things we can observe. For instance our knowledge of blackholes is only because we can observe their effect on light, and the gravitational distortion they cause

 

[Imperfected]

Metzen and Lucas are solid answers, but if we're allowing mangaka for consideration I'd have to say Tite Kubo, the creator of Bleach.

More potential than most shonen manga, wasted faster and more thoroughly. A true legend.

 

[Poppy]

Nintendo.

Majora's Mask was all a dream.

Spoiler

/s

link's awakening was actually a dream! though that wasnt nintendo

also link's awakening is the best zelda game

 

[aBarreras]

can someone explain this? i figured it is dexter seing the conversation between posters, but whats the deal with this scene?

 

[elrechazado]

except it is not. It just say the xblarghs are made of jgflyfts !

This is not science fiction explanation since it does not include any science

You missed a crucial half of the concept of science fiction.

 

[Fancyarcher]

Definitely agree with Warcraft, they pushed that series as far as they could.

Alien isn't Ridley Scott's creation despite him bringing so much of it to the big screen, so I'm not sure I'd he'd count. Same with the mention of Mulcahy and Highlander, but I digress.

 

[super-heated plasma]

Aye, they weren't entirely necessary, but they weren't as stupid as folks make them out to be. They were just a translation mechanism to bridge the gap between the sci-fi and fantasy aspects of Star Wars, little Microbes that translated space magic into things your cells could do (shoot lightning, see the future, etc).

But in the Phantom Menace, Qui Gon mentions how the midichlorians were directly responsible for Anakins immaculate conception.

 

[zer0das]

I'll go with Metzen. I feel like someone going "let's troll an entire fan base with as putrid of a story and lore as humanly possible" is the only way to describe what they did to the Starcraft universe. Or they hired third graders to write.

 

[SwipeLeftHoney]

Unfortunately Akira Toriyama and Dragon Ball. Though much of it due to editor/publisher pressure and his failing interest. But ultimately he should have shut shit down and not just kept dragging things out post Frieza. It's not always easy to know when to stop.

I think after the Cell Games is when I got to the point where things got a bit ridiculous. I did however enjoy the whole Majin Buu stuff but honestly this series has gone on way too long now.

 

[SuperStiltzkin]

I feel like a lot of anime/mangakas go down a shitty rabbit hole for the sake of stretching out their series.

 

[Faddy]

The 4 Gospels were a pretty big retcon on the Old Testament, then Paul just ran that shit into the ground.

 

[Imperfected]

I'll go with Metzen. I feel like someone going "let's troll an entire fan base with as putrid of a story and lore as humanly possible" is the only way to describe what they did to the Starcraft universe. Or they hired third graders to write.

Don't forget Diablo 3.

 

[Conkersbadfurday]

Well I'm still mad about Ridley and what he did with Alien: Covenant, so I'm gonna go him even if there are probably worse out there.

 

[kswiston]

I feel like a lot of anime/mangakas go down a shitty rabbit hole for the sake of stretching out their series.

Have any of them ever had two huge hits?

 

[PantherLotus]

Can we blame any one person for the tragedy that has become the Terminator franchise? If so that person would rank up there with Scott and Lucas.

 

[Chumley]

I'll go with Metzen. I feel like someone going "let's troll an entire fan base with as putrid of a story and lore as humanly possible" is the only way to describe what they did to the Starcraft universe. Or they hired third graders to write.

Don't forget Diablo 3.

Yup.

I can't believe Blizzard fans give him a pass. One of the worst writers in video game history, Diablo 3 feels like it was made for elementary school children. It's embarrassing to hear the shit he put in that game as a grown ass man.

 

[Poppy]

Don't forget Diablo 3.

what if i really, really want to though

remember when a random butterfly magician killed cain and we just have to accept it

and then diablo was just like im back lol and stormed heaven on his own and all the angels are apparently punkass bitches

 

[Manu]

But in the Phantom Menace, Qui Gon mentions how the midichlorians were directly responsible for Anakins immaculate conception.

Don't forget Palpatine telling Anakin Darth Plagueis could manipulate the Midichlorians into creating life.

EDIT: Diablo 3 is a good pick too. I hated what they did to Deckard, Adria, and pretty much everything in the story.

I still love the game but yeah.

 

[Lucky Seven]

Miyamoto.

You mean to tell me the Koopalings aren't Bowser's biological kids? You mean to tell me that Bowser Jr. is the only one?

Fuckin' nonsense.

Or how we lost the cool Mario world from Sunshine, TTYD, Superstar, etc. After the sixth generation, Mario got too sterile and the RPG's had the last bit of life choked out of them. Can't help but pin the blame on Miyamoto after seeing some popular quotes and articles. Although, the Superstar remake and Odyssey might turn all of that around, so we're not nearly as bad as Alien or Star Wars.

 

[Fisty]

Oh, I guess I forgot to mention Russel Mulcahy and Highlander. The first movie might not be that great (I still love it though) but it introduced a fantastic mythology. That was utterly ruined in the sequel.
edit: beaten!

The Renegade cut was somewhat better, it dropped the whole Zeist plotline and made Michael Ironside and crew time travellers (from the past?) which is much less antagonistic towards it's continuity lol

It's not a great movie with the recut, but it's something I wouldn't consider trash either.

 

[jett]

When it comes to a property that was closest to my fanboy heart, it has to be Metal Gear and Hideo Kojima. The dude just kept on retconning shit with every single game, but MGS4 was the worst, when it turned the lovable support cast from MGS3 into the actual villains of the entire franchise.

George Lucas is good for second place.

 

[Brakke]

Halo really shit the bed when they gave Magic Space Blood to Master Chief.

 

[Eppy Thatcher]

I gotta say Ridley Scott because we are currently watching him drown his creation in gasoline and set it on fire. Not to mention the fact that he's so fuckin proud and happy with his shitty results in every interview and talk he gives about it. With George Lucas you kind of had this like.... sadness... like if your dad started going senile or alzheimers or something like that. Where you feel deep down that he doesn't really realize what's happening around him and maybe he's just too much of a different time.

Scott sounds coherent. And proudly arrogant of his fuckin abysmal movies. It's almost like he's stomping on his franchises fingers as it dangles over the edge of a cliff and everytime a digit slips he looks back at the crown with this macabre smile just waiting for the reaction.

I fear for Blade Runner. I really hope they rope his crazy ass off and away from the set.

When it comes to a property that was closest to my fanboy heart, it has to be Metal Gear and Hideo Kojima. The dude just kept on retconning shit with every single game, but MGS4 was the worst, when it turned the lovable support cast from MGS3 into the actual villains of the entire franchise.

oh fuck me i didn't even think about MGS... a franchise i was actually invested in.
The "twist" in 5 did it for me. Final nail and all that. 4 at least had that amazing fist fight with Ocelot on top of arsenal at the end... 5 was just... fucking stupid. (story beat wise of course. It's terrible that such good gameplay is mired but such a fuckwit story.)

 

[Playsage]

I'd say Masashi Kishimoto for shounen manga

 

[Imperfected]

remember when a random butterfly magician killed cain and we just have to accept it

How could I forget? Especially with the classic line she delivered. Uh, I think it was something like, "It's a good day to die... FOR YOU!" or maybe, "I know you are, but what am I?!"

Also, while the dialogue, characters, and narrative events are completely awful, it's important not to overlook how many hits the underlying lore took. Did you like the idea of a literal battle between Heaven and Hell? Well, now "Heaven" and "Hell" are just sort of alien planets inhabited by asshole species that kind of look angelic/demonic, and their war is just a pissy territorial spat. Enjoy your epic who gives a fuck.

 

[Uzumaki Goku]

Kishimoto and Naruto

 

[Makai]

JoJo lore wth

 

[Black_Stride]

Kubo Tite - BLEACH.

Theres a whole arc that is our hero having lost his powers, being tought to harness(bring back) his powers only to have said powers stolen by the guys teaching him to get his powers back.....then his friends come back for no apparent reason and give him his powers back.
End arc.


Then of course there is the final arc where he seriously just gave up everything.