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[BRocknRolla]

*Love and kindness provided you are of the right social group/privilege

I've not known SJW's to be a particularly caring bunch unless you fit into the set of issues they feel
is important. If you don't then you can generally jolly well fuck off. At least that's been my experiences with people who would identify as such. "We don't like what you say so you shouldn't be allowed to say it."

I don't know why people feel bad for Anita though. She's not a victim. She knows what she's doing and she's milking it while continuing to spout disingenuous half truths or straight up lies. How people can think that she's a good example for women being "oppressed" by western society is beyond me.

Can't imagine why you aren't popular among people who have progressive ideas.

 

[Steve.1981]

Hard to believe in the year of our lord 2017 people are still under the impression GG was ever about ethics in game journalism

Very, very hard to believe. Call me cynical if you want.

 

[cakely]

I'm saving that one.

 

[MUnited83]

Just like the example below, right?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/01/milo-yiannopoulos-uc-berkeley-event-cancelled

(Btw, the summary paragraph on this one is hilarious...a so called anti-facist group acting just like the people they claim to fight, LOL!)

I mean if you completely ignore how Milo has regularly harassed, doxxed and outed students at the college's he went to,then the argument might make some sense. But reality is different. The antics did their fucking civic duty . Milo belongs in prison and while he isn't there anybody that is a decent human being should try to stop him from commiting any more crimes.

 

[Darryl M R]

When you're saying this about the shit Jontron said:

then that tells me everything I need to know.

JonTron: Minorities ruin the gene pool!
Me: JonTron is a bigot
Boogie: Hey let's not call names and just learn from each other and meet somewhere in the middle.
JonTron: Minorities ruin 3/5 of the gene pool.

 

[Famassu]

Then you know nothing of boogie...he does not support any harassment or anything, he even called out the people in the front rows that came there to harass Anita.

He backed away from gamergate a while ago when it started becoming less about the game journalism and more about harassing women like Anita and others, which he does not agree with in any way and has said so years ago.

GamerGate was never about ethics in game journalism. Never. Well, maybe for a minute around ground zero for 0,01% of GamerGaters who were fooled into thinking it was about ethics in game journalism, but the root was always grounded in a false premise of accusing a scum-of-the-earth feminist woman of using her boobs and vagina to gain exposure for her game or whatever, which was never true IIRC but only a butthurt misogynistic man lashing out and making shit up when that woman broke up with him. From the very first second the MRA types & neo nazis latched on to the movement and made it theirs, made it hateful and started the harassment train many are suffering from to this day and about fighting against the horriburu oppression by feminazis & SJWs.

 

[Frozenprince]

I mean did you really need 15 sentences that all said functionally the same thing?

 

[BennyBlanco]

I heard him on Joe Rogan the other day, looked him up, and was fucking flabbergasted by his Patreon numbers. Damn near 300k a year for being smarmy on twitter.

 

[Psychoward]

JonTron: Minorities ruin the gene pool!
Me: JonTron is a bigot
Boogie: Hey let's not call names and just learn from each other and meet somewhere in the middle.
JonTron: Minorities ruin 3/5 of the gene pool.

Hey now that's not the middle,I think we can compromise a bit better than that!

How about 1/2?

 

[EmiPrime]

Going by the comments in his videos regarding this issue, he has a pretty large GG following, which isn't some coincidence. His nice guy middle of the road I don't wanna make any mad at me approach is getting old. There are plenty of issues to remain neutral on, this isn't one of them. He needs to pick a side, make a stand, or shut the fuck up.

He will probably keep making videos about being a moderate, about how extremes are bad and that both sides need to meet with him in the middle. He's a bullshitter and I am glad Anita called him out on it to his face even if it will have no effect.

 

[MKIL65]

When you're saying this about the shit Jontron said:

then that tells me everything I need to know.

"Maybe I'll be able to advocate for genocide someday!"

"WOULDN'T THAT BE SWELL?!"

 

[Trojan X]

You're literally in a thread about an example of harassment toward Anita so you're either illiterate or a fucking idiot.

You calling me a fucking idiot and expect me to be ok about it? How dare you. Have some damn respect as i would have had for you and and continue to have for others. What the hell is wrong with you?! Also, i am talking about past harrassments, the ones that got people rallied prior this public event, not the one you may be proposing at vidcon (want to know harrassment? Please listen to boggie's closing comments that Anita shitted on him for when he finished). And if any poster has already provided that information that i requested then it was a simple case of myself missing it and it would have been much nicer for you to point that out. However, instead for you to think of other possibilities, you had the audacity to call me a fucking idiot?!

Get the heck off the internet for awhile until you've cooled off. Getting rattled for a post like that will do you no favours, and i seriously hope you are not in full support of Anita for what she did and what she continued to do wasn't right.

 

[Dynasty]

I feel like I'm looking at low quality bait. Maybe I'm misunderstanding.

If someone is both aggressive (as the activist audience was in this case), and you're also saying it's out of line to call out bad behavior for what it is because it will "feed the hate," you're implicitely demanding people do nothing.

Sorry isnt meant to come across as bait.

Im all for Calling out bad behaviour just put some thought behind it and dont do while loosing composure.
She could have easily called Sargon a shithead and garbage human being while giving a clear cut reason, like what people in this thread have pointed out to like him defending JonTron.

"You have shithead and garbage humans like Sargon who defend racists like JonTron and send internet hate mobs to harrass me" would have been a better response, she is clearly saying why Sargon is garbage by linking to jontron.

Also i understand she was under pressure and feel sorry for her but I aint going to act like her handlig of the situation was perfect like people in this thread.


Edit:Again would like to reiterate, no way am I saying Sargon is right, he is a Piece of shit. In fact he is pretty stupid as well. He has said stuff non-gaming related that as well is sexist/racist. He believes black people and white people have equal oppertinity, women are not oppressed, etc I'm sure there are more.

 

[mark-san]

Haha holy shit how did I miss this. Did you read... anything at all related to Milo's events. You guys are gonna make me pop a blood vessel.

In a thread about Anita getting harassed someone had the gall to defend Milo's right to harass Transgender students at a univesity. Educate yourself.

I see it didn't take long for the "educate yourself" folks to appear. Have you maybe, i don't know, ever thought about the possibility of the people you ask to "read more" be completely aware of the situation but still have a total opposite view than you?

"You guys are gonna make me pop a blood vessel."

This hyperbolic generation kills me (that's figurative speech being used correctly, btw).

 

[BrutishMrFish]

*Love and kindness provided you are of the right social group/privilege

I've not known SJW's to be a particularly caring bunch unless you fit into the set of issues they feel
is important. If you don't then you can generally jolly well fuck off. At least that's been my experiences with people who would identify as such. "We don't like what you say so you shouldn't be allowed to say it."

I don't know why people feel bad for Anita though. She's not a victim. She knows what she's doing and she's milking it while continuing to spout disingenuous half truths or straight up lies. How people can think that she's a good example for women being "oppressed" by western society is beyond me.

Great example of why that women-only gaming event was needed. And you were saying that women ignoring "the other side" was counterproductive, lmao.

 

[Lunarwhale]

I don't know why people feel bad for Anita though. She's not a victim. She knows what she's doing and she's milking it while continuing to spout disingenuous half truths or straight up lies. How people can think that she's a good example for women being "oppressed" by western society is beyond me.

you're fucking around right? She's been facing death threats, harassment, more physical threats against her wellbeing like stalking for years all because she started calling out video game tropes that can be seen as sexist.

If you think she's "milking" this, you're out of touch with reality here.

 

[Poor GRIMES]

I heard him on Joe Rogan the other day, looked him up, and was fucking flabbergasted by his Patreon numbers. Damn near 300k a year for being smarmy on twitter.

I think Patreon should look into who should actually be allowed to receive funding on their websites. For example, I don't see any terrorist organizations or represenatitives going onto Patreon or GoFundMe to fund their causes.

 

[BY2K]

When you're saying this about the shit Jontron said:

then that tells me everything I need to know. Btw GG was NEVER about games journalism, it was ALWAYS about harassing women.

Just yesterday he made a video where he said he doesn't want to lose anyone on the FAR left or anyone on the FAR right in his audience.

He's incredibly naive.

 

[Fat4all]

Hey now that's not the middle,I think we can compromise a bit better than that!

How about 1/2?

Dunno, 3/5ths sounds like a much better compromise...

 

[Darryl M R]

Ryn went all in with that first post.

Hey now that's not the middle,I think we can compromise a bit better than that!

How about 1/2?

Dunno, 3/5ths sounds like a much better compromise...

Spoiler

+5 assist

 

[Oersted]

I also have no horse in this race, as I want true equality.

Okay, that is highlight, a "true social justice warrior", not one of those fakers who don't trash women.

 

[Fudgepuppy]

Why is it always someone with an anime avatar?

 

[Raging Spaniard]

*Love and kindness provided you are of the right social group/privilege

I've not known SJW's to be a particularly caring bunch unless you fit into the set of issues they feel
is important. If you don't then you can generally jolly well fuck off. At least that's been my experiences with people who would identify as such. "We don't like what you say so you shouldn't be allowed to say it."

I don't know why people feel bad for Anita though. She's not a victim. She knows what she's doing and she's milking it while continuing to spout disingenuous half truths or straight up lies. How people can think that she's a good example for women being "oppressed" by western society is beyond me.

Holy shit its like a chimera

Disagreements only go so far when an opinion is "she should get raped" or "jews should be killed"

Anita has opinions about how women are represented in media, THATS ALL, and you not thinking shes a victim means thats you think the reaction to THOSE OPINIONS are justified.

You would become a puddle of tears if you experienced 5% of the treatment she has received in the last 3 years because of a videogame opinion you had, get the fuck out of here.

 

[jett]

Those people are just fucked in the head. As is anyone that defends their ilk.

Yes, he called it just a different opinion that we have to respect.

Look I understand he's gotten harassed too and if his speech was basically just harassment is bad in all forms then that's still a good heart I guess even if he missed the mark. But the fact that he goes on to say in the video that this instance wasn't an identity politics problem? Lol

Boogie is a spineless chump that will change his opinion on a dime in an effort to push away the least amount of people possible.

 

[Poor GRIMES]

Just yesterday he made a video where he said he doesn't want to lose anyone on the FAR left or anyone on the FAR right in his audience.

He's incredibly naive.

Funnily enough the far left would be more accepting of his.... aesthetics than the fat shaming pieces of shit the far right prides itself on.

 

[HStallion]

*Love and kindness provided you are of the right social group/privilege

I've not known SJW's to be a particularly caring bunch unless you fit into the set of issues they feel
is important. If you don't then you can generally jolly well fuck off. At least that's been my experiences with people who would identify as such. "We don't like what you say so you shouldn't be allowed to say it."

I don't know why people feel bad for Anita though. She's not a victim. She knows what she's doing and she's milking it while continuing to spout disingenuous half truths or straight up lies. How people can think that she's a good example for women being "oppressed" by western society is beyond me.

I didn't realize Calm Waterfall had so many long lasting alt accounts.

 

[Dynheart]

"all lives matter"

I looked this up, and it has negative connotations, and not to mention that is not my stance.

But I will bow out, as a I do not want my intentions twisted on me buy some stranger over the internet.

 

[Steve.1981]

this is one of my favorites. the revelation at 1:50 is so good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t_Bs-8L4Mo

Holy shit! "Reservoir Dogs rip-off will surely make us look cool!!!"

I'm crying with laughter at these absolute clowns.

 

[MrBadger]

I see it didn't take long for the "educate yourself" folks to appear. Have you maybe, i don't know, ever thought about the possibility of the people you ask to "read more" be completely aware of the situation but still have a total opposite view than you?

"You guys are gonna make me pop a blood vessel."

This hyperbolic generation kills me (that's figurative speech being used correctly, btw).

So you know he's a terrible person but still think this is a comparable situation. Okay, where does that leave things?

 

[Fat4all]

But I will bow out, as a I do not want my intentions twisted on me buy some stranger over the internet.

Live to die another day.

 

[Alucrid]

*Love and kindness provided you are of the right social group/privilege

I've not known SJW's to be a particularly caring bunch unless you fit into the set of issues they feel
is important. If you don't then you can generally jolly well fuck off. At least that's been my experiences with people who would identify as such. "We don't like what you say so you shouldn't be allowed to say it."

I don't know why people feel bad for Anita though. She's not a victim. She knows what she's doing and she's milking it while continuing to spout disingenuous half truths or straight up lies. How people can think that she's a good example for women being "oppressed" by western society is beyond me.

can you tell us what those things you said were?

 

[Mesoian]

You calling me a fucking idiot and expect me to be ok about it? How dare you. Have some damn respect as i would have had for you and and continue to have for others. What the hell is wrong with you?! Also, i am talking about past harrassments, the ones that got people rallied prior this public event, not the one you may be proposing at vidcon (want to know harrassment? Please listen to boggie's closing comments that Anita shitted on him for when he finished). And if any poster has already provided that information that i requested then it was a simple case of myself missing it and it would have been much nicer for you to point that out. However, instead for you to think of other possibilities, you had the audacity to call me a fucking idiot?!

Get the heck off the internet for awhile until you've cooled off. Getting rattled for a post like that will do you no favours.

To be fair, coming into a thread that's 12 pages long that already contains the information you were asking for AT LENGTH, then asking for it again is not good form. We provided it for you again, but still...please at least read the first page of the thread if you're genuinely interested because I'm pretty sure everything you needed was in the first 50 posts.

Also people are a little hot in this thread right now, we had some good trollin for a good 3 pages. We should all come down a bit.

 

[RumbleHumble]

*Love and kindness provided you are of the right social group/privilege

I've not known SJW's to be a particularly caring bunch unless you fit into the set of issues they feel
is important. If you don't then you can generally jolly well fuck off. At least that's been my experiences with people who would identify as such. "We don't like what you say so you shouldn't be allowed to say it."

I don't know why people feel bad for Anita though. She's not a victim. She knows what she's doing and she's milking it while continuing to spout disingenuous half truths or straight up lies. How people can think that she's a good example for women being "oppressed" by western society is beyond me.

Look at all the people who just stopped you from typing what you just typed above. You really overcame some harsh circumstances, huh?

 

[flkraven]

Boogie is a fence sitter who thinks there's a "middle ground" between Trump and the left. He can go fuck himself for eternity.

Other terms for people like this:

-uninformed
-spineless

People like this act like they are being impartial, but they either don't know anything about the actual issues (and are unwilling to research) or are too scared to take a strong stance either way. Being impartial allows them to take the moral high ground and seem intelligent and pragmatic when in actuality they don't know shit, are stupid about the issue, and are too chicken to care.

 

[Nekofrog]

If there's one thing I've learned in my 33 years it's that there is an ocean of lonely angry white men out there on the internet that are willing to throw their money at other lonely angry white men as long as they're telling them how evil women are for not instantly fellating them when they walk into a room.

 

[Crossing Eden]

Have some damn respect

How about you give me some respect and either read the OP and/or address my reply to you.

 

[jacobeid]

He defended JonTron wanting to cleanse the gene pool by saying we should all try out new ideas like he is.

Boogie can burn in hell for eternity.

Yup. Dude has been teetering on the verge for years.

You calling me a fucking idiot and expect me to be ok about it? How dare you. Have some damn respect as i would have had for you and and continue to have for others. What the hell is wrong with you?! Also, i am talking about past harrassments, the ones that got people rallied prior this public event, not the one you may be proposing at vidcon (want to know harrassment? Please listen to boggie's closing comments that Anita shitted on him for when he finished). And if any poster has already provided that information that i requested then it was a simple case of myself missing it and it would have been much nicer for you to point that out. However, instead for you to think of other possibilities, you had the audacity to call me a fucking idiot?!

Get the heck off the internet for awhile until you've cooled off. Getting rattled for a post like that will do you no favours, and i seriously hope you are not in full support of Anita for what she did and what she continued to do wasn't right.

Lmfao. Really?

 

[Machina]

Why is it always someone with an anime avatar?

Socially inept

 

[Metrotab]

I wonder if the Green brothers will make a vlog about this.

 

[psychowave]

this is one of my favorites. the revelation at 1:50 is so good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t_Bs-8L4Mo

Holy fuck the second hand embarrassment I'm getting from this is unreal

 

[Yukinari]

Wait, so, is Sky bad now?

I think Sky joined in on the discussion because he wanted to hear what Jon had to say but he definitely doesnt agree with him.

 

[bobbychalkers]

Ah when did the shitheels become the snowflakes? I thought liberals were the ones who had fragile feelings and didn't want to be argued or debated. Now it seems like racist and sexist pieces of shit are the ones concerned with feelings and mean words.

Its always been this way, they project like a motherfucker.

 

[RedZaraki]

Protip: Don't try to defend bigots or bigot opinions. Or minimize it. Or legitimizing it by giving it voice.

 

[Ominym]

*Love and kindness provided you are of the right social group/privilege

I've not known SJW's to be a particularly caring bunch unless you fit into the set of issues they feel
is important. If you don't then you can generally jolly well fuck off. At least that's been my experiences with people who would identify as such. "We don't like what you say so you shouldn't be allowed to say it."

I don't know why people feel bad for Anita though. She's not a victim. She knows what she's doing and she's milking it while continuing to spout disingenuous half truths or straight up lies. How people can think that she's a good example for women being "oppressed" by western society is beyond me.

GamerGate sure has done wonders for showing people's true colors. I remember seeing your avatar/name repeatedly in the old Halo OT threads, now I'm only sad I bothered reading your trash in the first place.

It's unfortunate you're so unbelievably closed minded.

 

[Alucrid]

You calling me a fucking idiot and expect me to be ok about it? How dare you. Have some damn respect as i would have had for you and and continue to have for others. What the hell is wrong with you?! Also, i am talking about past harrassments, the ones that got people rallied prior this public event, not the one you may be proposing at vidcon (want to know harrassment? Please listen to boggie's closing comments that Anita shitted on him for when he finished). And if any poster has already provided that information that i requested then it was a simple case of myself missing it and it would have been much nicer for you to point that out. However, instead for you to think of other possibilities, you had the audacity to call me a fucking idiot?!

Get the heck off the internet for awhile until you've cooled off. Getting rattled for a post like that will do you no favours, and i seriously hope you are not in full support of Anita for what she did and what she continued to do wasn't right.

why are you not respecting me but anita sarkeesian is clearly a liar who doesn't suffer from any harassment but is the real harasser because of what boogie said except he said that they had a nice conversation which doesn't sound like harassment but it's not like she would know what harassment is because she's not harassed

 

[psychowave]

Sorry isnt meant to come across as bait.

Im all for Calling out bad behaviour just put some thought behind it and dont do while loosing composure.
She could have easily called Sargon a shithead and garbage human being while giving a clear cut reason, like what people in this thread have pointed out to like him defending JonTron.

"You have shithead and garbage humans like Sargon who defend racists like JonTron and send internet hate mobs to harrass me" would have been a better response, she is clearly saying why Sargon is garbage by linking to jontron.

Also i understand she was under pressure and feel sorry for her but I aint going to act like her handlig of the situation was perfect like people in this thread.

yeah, women, when you have to confront your harassers/stalkers remember to have a good response at hand instead of getting all upset and emotional

 

[LinkSlayer64]

I think Sky joined in on the discussion because he wanted to hear what Jon had to say but he definitely doesnt agree with him.

Oh okay. perhaps I should seek this out to actually hear this discussion. thanks.

 

[Mesoian]

I am considering history. Looking at feminism, and their push for more rights, was about equality. It is in the history books with this (even with official documents sign stating such wording). This sends a different message (a positive one VS the toxic argument today) than the female VS male narrative, which all it does is accomplish marginalizing the male counter part, and victimizing females. It's no wonder no sane conversation is to be had, and the narrative tone was set 5 years ago

It's just my opinion. Not going to sit here and argue about it, because to be quite frank, it's an argument no side will ever settle on (unless the people obviously agree). I also have no horse in this race, as I want true equality.

If you want cites, dating back all the way back to the early 1900's, I can provide, but they are easily found. True equality is written all over these documents, I do not see why it cannot be a focus now. I mean, it has made great strides before.

Wow.

It cannot be the focus now because one side of hte equation is literally spending their time harrassing the otherside into submission. It's not a question of both sides being stubborn and needing to compromise, it's literally people of influence on one side going to someone's panel on the otherside and trying to intimidate them into submission.

It's not an all sides problem. I don't get why people don't understand that.

 

[Arkeband]

I tried to listen to the Rogan podcast with this dude on it and by the time he started looking into the camera and saying how mean Anita is to him and how she has no friends and nobody likes her, I realized that this dude and his ilk peaked on the elementary school playground and desperately want to go back.

 

[Klappdrachen]

I applaud her for what she did. We need more people like her and less scum like "Sargon of Akkad" (seriously?) in our society. Can't believe that some people here insist that "he didn't do anything, he was just sitting there". Do you really believe that?