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Playerunknown's Battlegrounds studio wants to add cross-play between PC and Xbox One
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ebullientprism
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Yep. Unless the aim assist automatically locks on to the head of every visible enemy, its a non issue. M&K would win every single time.
Not everyone is so overly competitive that they would rather play with no one (due to empty rooms) than playing with a disadvantage
Triggerhappytel
Member
I'm 100% certain it'll come to PS4 down the line, but they're being coy about it right now because they want people to buy the game on Xbone, which is understandable. It'll be the same situation as Elite Dangerous or Ark.
Yeah, having the option is fair enough, but do any players on PC use controllers though?
It has nothing to do with a sinister plot to drive more xbone sales.
Sony just doesnt allow game previews
it will reach PS4 when its ready just like every other early access game out there
Daily express is your answer. Stay clear of majority of UK tabloids expect Metro at times for games news.
It has been labelled a "Launch Exclusive" so it will/can come to other console platforms after launch. Developer/MS PR have said as much to me it just seems like they are being cagey not mentioning platforms plans explicitly which is typical with these deals.
| Praxis |
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Let me have a toggle. Mouse and keyboard for the majority of play, and controller for when I feel lazy and just want to lie on the sofa playing with the Xbox crowd.
Just allow for users to toggle it on/off. Problem solved.
To increase the difficulty, making them better against other controller users.
People on PCs use controllers all the time. Sometimes it's a comfort/familiarity thing. Sometimes it has to do with their setup.
To increase the difficulty, making them better against other controller users.
People on PCs use controllers all the time. Sometimes it's a comfort/familiarity thing. Sometimes it has to do with their setup.
BLAUcopter
Gold Member
What's wrong with having more options? I think this is fucking great and gives me a chance to get my mates involved that play on console exclusively. They are frothing to get in on this game and the fact we will be able to play together makes it all the more sweeter. If that isn't a good thing then nothing will ever make you people happy.
Gwent is PS4 or Xbox with PC, like Rocket League's cross-play.
https://www.playgwent.com/en/faq
Sony only have issues with Xbox (and probably Nintendo) cross-play.
There's a difference between the alleged advantage of KB+M over gamepad, though. With a keyboard and a mouse, you are limited by your own skill and reaction times. I have a good mouse but I'm not very good at competitive games, so I get smoked whenever I play against others online. Auto-aim is an artificial advantage tacked on by developers to compensate for lower precision with a gamepad.
One is just how the hardware is, the other is basically a cheat. Yeah, I don't want to play against gamepad players. If I die in the game, let it be my fault. Not some magical shot that passed me by but somehow changed direction mid-air and got me in the head. Make it a toggle and everything's cool.
Didn't someone from MS say they plan to add mouse and KB support to Xbox? I wonder if that'll be implemented down the line.
I think this would be fine with proper filtering options. This isn't a twitch game like Quake or Doom where a mouse and KB would have an advantage in every situation.
I think this would be fine with proper filtering options. This isn't a twitch game like Quake or Doom where a mouse and KB would have an advantage in every situation.
Ahhh thought it was only Xbox, my mistake. Might have been mixed up with the cross save stuff on Win10 and Xbox
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Deleted member 325805
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Sounds like a raw deal for console players, they're going to get smoked.
Yes they have talked about it since 2015. Mike Ybarra recently said this:
https://pcgamesn.com/xbox-one-x-mouse-keyboard
Mike Ybarra is addicted to battlegrounds on pc btw, so he is probably aware of all the issues that might arise.
LelouchZero
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Yes, player skill is the biggest factor with a keyboard and mouse, with any control scheme really. Should cross-play come to fruition hopefully the developers implement a toggle so players can choose if they want to play with console or controllers players, and perhaps even a toggle for people playing with aim assist.
I wonder how effective aim assist could be with a keyboard and mouse for players who have trouble with controller players with aim assist?
Autoaim is next to useless in a game like PUBG. Since shots are projectile based (there are actual bullets that travel from gun to target) instead of hitscan (shots are instantaneously registered and assessed based on location of crosshairs), it's nearly impossible to quickly lead a target when your aim is getting snapped back to where that person is located at the time you aim down sights. Given the relatively high portion of ranged engagements in the game, autoaim seems like it would hinder more than it helps.
PS4 would need an early access system first
FaintDeftone
Junior Member
This is where I'm at too. Playing against keyboard and mouse players could be a pain on console. If console players can toggle it off, what else could it hurt?
sixteen-bit
Member
Can you play on low settings on Xbox?
I'm sure there would be a mix of auto aim, aim assist, and bullet magnetism. It wouldn't just be hard auto-aim.
Halo CE was exclusively projectile based with heavy aim assistance , and it still managed to allow for things like leading targets.
Ermmm plenty of projectile based games have aim assist. Battlefield is the easiest example to see.
wesleyshark
Banned
More options are bad?
Blergmeister
Member
I would be fine if to play cross-play that there were restrictions on the PC player (edit - i mean 2 versions of the game the pc player can toggle while between matches) to match the console player, ie controller required, any balance changes for the console "version", etc. I think that is a reasonable solution in general to balance cross play for games where the input methods (kb/m vs controller) prove to make a big gap between players.
I also think Path of Exile should release their xbox version side by side the normal release on pc, with appropriate controller restrictions, and allow cross play with that version.
I think the hurdle to some of this may be how payments for in game items work, especially for free games. The console provider wants a cut from their player base but what about a player that buys their items in a pc version but mostly play on the console. I think that happened to Marvel Heroes.
I also think Path of Exile should release their xbox version side by side the normal release on pc, with appropriate controller restrictions, and allow cross play with that version.
I think the hurdle to some of this may be how payments for in game items work, especially for free games. The console provider wants a cut from their player base but what about a player that buys their items in a pc version but mostly play on the console. I think that happened to Marvel Heroes.
That's a fair enough assessment. I guess my follow-up would be "if they're turning on all of those, are they toggles, and if so, are they available on both PC and console?"
See above. I was talking solely about autoaim.
wesleyshark
Banned
Ybarra is one of the folks I usually watch on mixer. He's pretty good at PUBG
Thanks for pointing this out.
Mhh... I was fully set on getting it on Xbox this year. I would 100% prefer it on PS4 though. I would like to not have to wait too long for a PS4 version.
mullet2000
Member
I really feel like controller players would get torn apart in this game.
Needs to be opt in for console players.
Needs to be opt in for console players.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Good idea but the Mouse + KB crowd will absolutely murder controller crowd, unless they make controller only lobbies.
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
Yeah awful idea. The console crowd will just get absolutely bodied.
Give War A Chance
Member
That seems like a bad idea, but at least the player pool will be bigger?
Hopefully Sony will protect us vulnerable children from the cross-play bullies! /s, sorta.
Hopefully Sony will protect us vulnerable children from the cross-play bullies! /s, sorta.
what
Felix Lighter
Member
This isn't the game for cross play.
I'm all for coop games, fighting games, games like Rocket League but it's either a nightmare for controller users or aim assist to compensate in shooters. I trust no developer to find some magic aim assist algorithm that doesn't chip away at the skill ceiling while making controllers viable at the same time.
I'm all for coop games, fighting games, games like Rocket League but it's either a nightmare for controller users or aim assist to compensate in shooters. I trust no developer to find some magic aim assist algorithm that doesn't chip away at the skill ceiling while making controllers viable at the same time.
blue_phazon
Member
I want it to happen just because. Hopefully the matchmaking is robust and can sort people regardless of their input method. In that way, people on controller will most likely be playing with people around their skill (who are likely to be other controller users or really bad kbm users).
Options for what? It's not the same as a fighting game. KB+M players would destroy pad players long range. What is the upside for console players?
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