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Fire Emblem Heroes |OT|Natural Selection Simulator
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Sushen
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I think Xander is the best GHB unit so far.Used my latest feather winnings to promote a GHB unit to 5* for the first time. Xander was the lucky winner. Seeing how the guy performs in various youtube videos and such really made my decision. I'm ready to let him go beast mode for my benefit now
SenorArdilla
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Tried pulling for one of the Echoes units. Got +Atk/-Def Hinoka...
What should I use for Nino? I've got a -HP +atk, and +spd -def.
That's good to hear. I don't know why they don't put out official translations of tweets at the same time as Japan.
That's good to hear. I don't know why they don't put out official translations of tweets at the same time as Japan.
Ghost is Bad
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nino is the strongest green infantry in the game and you have her 2 best ivs lol. if you have eirika, build a team around the 2 of them.
+Spd -Def, and prioritize a Hinata for her.
Sushen
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It's ok. Once I finish Peri, I'll have two pony teams.
Dragons have it worse, Ninian is the only one with a Dragon Buff at all. But yeah, a lot of the Flyer buffs are rare, and exclusive to 5* units.
Sushen
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The same here and IS dares to taunt flier team for orb reward each month. I can get by with 4* armor team, but I simply don't have enough to build a team.
Edit: Already taken. Thanks.
Well, seeing that the July Tempest is likely going to maintain the same crazy level of grindiness, I have come to the conclusion that theres no way I can keep up with 2 accounts for much longer. I still havent opened my copy of ARMS and it certainly doesnt help that Splatoon 2 is coming. After staring at both of my accounts for hours Ive decided to drop my main account and would like to know if anyone is interested in picking it up. My accounts are all F2P and my luck hasn't been fantastic but if you have even worse luck or you are a new comer who just started the game, this might be helpful for you. I don't wish anything in return; it is just that I have put in quite some time and effort in this that I don't want to see them go to complete waste.
Again, this is my account from launch and it has obtained every single copy of the GHB units (and I havent sacrificed any of them except one Lloyd for Iceberg) and every Sacred Seals to date. It is currently at arena Tier 20 and the score was 4846 last week.
5*s in the box:
Main 5*s: (skills with levels are at level 3 unless otherwise stated)
Nino: +ATK, -DEF. Moonbow, Darting Blow, Desperation. 6000+ SP. There's 1 more 4* copy of her.
Nowi + 1: Neutral, but I have recently pulled 2 more 4* ones with one of them being +SPD, -Res. Moonbow, Reposition, Triangle Adept, Quick Riposte 2, Hone Speed. 4000+ SP.
Ike: +ATK, -DEF. Reposition, Vantage, Fortify Defense.
Olivia: +SPD, -DEF. Ruby Sword+, Moonbow, Fury, Wings of Mercy. There are 6 more 3* copies of her.
Other Notable 5*s: (not used as frequently so SI might not be completed)
Bridal Cordelia: +ATK, -Res, and theres another copy with bad IV. Moonbow, Darting Blow.
Effie: +DEF, -SPD. Pivot, Noontime.
Marth (used as main for the first couple of months): +SPD, -HP. Reposition, Sol, Fury.
Lilina + 1: +ATK, -DEF. Draw Back, Axe Breaker, Sword Breaker 2.
Notable 4*s:
Kagero: +ATK, -HP.
Sophia + 8: +ATK, -HP. Rauðrraven, Reposition, Iceberg, Triangle Adept, Quick Riposte 2.
Erika: +ATK, -DEF.
Cordelia: +ATK, -SPD * 2.
Notable skill fodders:
Klein, Hinata, Lonqu, Cain, Abel, Odin * 2, Palla * 3, Caeda, Shanna, Gunter * 3, Jagen.
Inventory:
Feather is currently at 20k. Was about to train and promote Xander to 5* (my Olwen is a bit unfortunate with -SPD), but was also pondering whether I should spend 2k to give Bridelia Desperation first in anticipation of Tempest. Both Bridelia are lv40 so SP shouldnt be a big problem.
PM me if interested. I have made a temporary Gmail account to link this Nintendo account; I will just pass you the passwords for both gmail and myNintendo and you can change them subsequently. Thanks.
Edit: Already taken. Thanks.
Well, seeing that the July Tempest is likely going to maintain the same crazy level of grindiness, I have come to the conclusion that theres no way I can keep up with 2 accounts for much longer. I still havent opened my copy of ARMS and it certainly doesnt help that Splatoon 2 is coming. After staring at both of my accounts for hours Ive decided to drop my main account and would like to know if anyone is interested in picking it up. My accounts are all F2P and my luck hasn't been fantastic but if you have even worse luck or you are a new comer who just started the game, this might be helpful for you. I don't wish anything in return; it is just that I have put in quite some time and effort in this that I don't want to see them go to complete waste.
Again, this is my account from launch and it has obtained every single copy of the GHB units (and I havent sacrificed any of them except one Lloyd for Iceberg) and every Sacred Seals to date. It is currently at arena Tier 20 and the score was 4846 last week.
5*s in the box:
Main 5*s: (skills with levels are at level 3 unless otherwise stated)
Nino: +ATK, -DEF. Moonbow, Darting Blow, Desperation. 6000+ SP. There's 1 more 4* copy of her.
Nowi + 1: Neutral, but I have recently pulled 2 more 4* ones with one of them being +SPD, -Res. Moonbow, Reposition, Triangle Adept, Quick Riposte 2, Hone Speed. 4000+ SP.
Ike: +ATK, -DEF. Reposition, Vantage, Fortify Defense.
Olivia: +SPD, -DEF. Ruby Sword+, Moonbow, Fury, Wings of Mercy. There are 6 more 3* copies of her.
Other Notable 5*s: (not used as frequently so SI might not be completed)
Bridal Cordelia: +ATK, -Res, and theres another copy with bad IV. Moonbow, Darting Blow.
Effie: +DEF, -SPD. Pivot, Noontime.
Marth (used as main for the first couple of months): +SPD, -HP. Reposition, Sol, Fury.
Lilina + 1: +ATK, -DEF. Draw Back, Axe Breaker, Sword Breaker 2.
Notable 4*s:
Kagero: +ATK, -HP.
Sophia + 8: +ATK, -HP. Rauðrraven, Reposition, Iceberg, Triangle Adept, Quick Riposte 2.
Erika: +ATK, -DEF.
Cordelia: +ATK, -SPD * 2.
Notable skill fodders:
Klein, Hinata, Lonqu, Cain, Abel, Odin * 2, Palla * 3, Caeda, Shanna, Gunter * 3, Jagen.
Inventory:
Feather is currently at 20k. Was about to train and promote Xander to 5* (my Olwen is a bit unfortunate with -SPD), but was also pondering whether I should spend 2k to give Bridelia Desperation first in anticipation of Tempest. Both Bridelia are lv40 so SP shouldnt be a big problem.
PM me if interested. I have made a temporary Gmail account to link this Nintendo account; I will just pass you the passwords for both gmail and myNintendo and you can change them subsequently. Thanks.
Edit: Already taken. Thanks.
Strange that you don't have Palla(s). Her Goad Fliers is all you really need unless your flier team is focused on Spring Camilla.
Sushen
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Haha, against my best judgement, made another full pull on the summer banner with no 5* in return. It's the longest draught since Ike banner that I failed to get him after 200+ down the drain. The joke's on me.
At least I've got a 4* Hinata. I need to check which one needs hkm thd most as I've got a long waiting list.
At least I've got a 4* Hinata. I need to check which one needs hkm thd most as I've got a long waiting list.
Hah, in the last hour I just put the most horrible combination of bullshit I could imagine as my defense team with no regard for the bonus unit. And they apparently pulled through at the last second. So I only missed out on 400 feathers instead of 900.
I'll be setting Peri up to support Horse Emblem but my only option for Fortify Cavalry (she'd be subbing in for Camus) is my old 4* level 40 Jagen. Well, I guess even a -atk 5* Peri is far more useful than his old ass will ever be.
From now on I'll be trying to stick with my cavalry team, I'm not interested in the stress of running my high point infantry/armor team anymore. It should be fine to stay in the 4 orb range with this, especially if I start merging some of my characters. I don't know what I'll do after Peri is cycled out though...when's Cecilia due as a bonus unit again?
edit: just checked the list myself and cecilia/virion should be up next if the pattern holds. Awesome.
T20 is the maximum. It's also very hard to stay in there.
I'll be setting Peri up to support Horse Emblem but my only option for Fortify Cavalry (she'd be subbing in for Camus) is my old 4* level 40 Jagen. Well, I guess even a -atk 5* Peri is far more useful than his old ass will ever be.
From now on I'll be trying to stick with my cavalry team, I'm not interested in the stress of running my high point infantry/armor team anymore. It should be fine to stay in the 4 orb range with this, especially if I start merging some of my characters. I don't know what I'll do after Peri is cycled out though...when's Cecilia due as a bonus unit again?
edit: just checked the list myself and cecilia/virion should be up next if the pattern holds. Awesome.
T20 is the maximum. It's also very hard to stay in there.
Wyndstryker
Member
With the orbs that came in, decided to just throw a full pull and get a Mae, +atk/-def
Really don't know what to do with her
Really don't know what to do with her
Technoweirdo
Member
You could make him into another Robin, I suppose. Stat spread is similar and you might have a 3* Cecilia to spare. If you feel like adding onto his base kit instead, give him Panic Ploy and the HP+3 seal. Boey's second only to Henry in terms of HP among mages, but Henry's Atk+Spd is legit awful unlike Boey's.
Personally, I'm throwing him out there to die on the first turn (just like I did with Robin), then sweeping all seven maps with Pony Emblem. I don't feel like training him. lol
I wonder if the final boss will be Veronica again, or if they'll use Bruno.
As for the tempest trial bonus unit, I like to surrender on the final map with my 'clear' team then incorporate the bonus guy into the final group. It'll be even easier now since if I wipe with that team their progress will remain.
I have a 5* level 40 Alm I leveled during the first double SP event, but I've never spent a single SP on him. He's -atk and I have better reds but at least I've got someone to use. That said I do not have it in me to grind like I did last time so hopefully the rewards aren't that great.
As for the tempest trial bonus unit, I like to surrender on the final map with my 'clear' team then incorporate the bonus guy into the final group. It'll be even easier now since if I wipe with that team their progress will remain.
I have a 5* level 40 Alm I leveled during the first double SP event, but I've never spent a single SP on him. He's -atk and I have better reds but at least I've got someone to use. That said I do not have it in me to grind like I did last time so hopefully the rewards aren't that great.
Technoweirdo
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Compared to Linde, she's got -5 Spd, +2 Def (not that it'll help), +3 Res. That's...a bit awkward. Even more awkward is that she's packing Desperation which isn't about tanking and messes with the positioning of Blarrowl.
I'd go Defiant Spd. I'm sure you've got one or two of those to spare unlike Fury or Darting Blow. If she needs to tank, Rehabilitate her. One of the fun things about Defiant passives is how they persist so long as the user's back to <50% by the next turn. Rehabilitating her will also let her gain at least +2 to all stats from Blarrowl.
Mine's +spd -def, and I'm going to do a half-budget build for her. I'm giving her Darting Blow and Glacies, and keeping Desperation for now. Haven't decided what I want to do for her C slot yet. Maybe I'll give her more if she turns out well.
I feel like the Owl tome is better suited for tanking than attacking, but it's still no slouch on attack thanks to high atk and respectable speed, and because even one or two adjacent people makes a difference. She's like a slightly more aggressive Julia. So the idea is to let Darting/Desperation work on offense, and then rely on the Owl tome for defense. It's easier to park her with 2-3 adjacent units if I'm using her for bait anyway, and I have a tank with Reciprocal Aid to bring her into Desperation range.
I'm reluctant to give her a blade tome because she doesn't seem well suited for that. Linde or Bunncina are better for pure glass cannon blue blade tome builds.
She is actually a very competent Blarblade user that can easily compete and in some cases surpass Bride Caeda and Spring Lucina. The difference in Atk is so enormous that she punches through targets without even needing to double. +Spd with Life and Death would however be able to easily destroy middling Spd targets. +Atk is nevertheless still very useful, as you reach a gigantic 39 base - ten more than the other two mentioned.
So yes you would preferably run a simple Blarblade set with Life and Death 3 or Swift Sparrow, and probably B Tomebreaker in B, or Lancebreaker against the increasingly common fliers.
Aveyn Knight
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Hmm, picking my bonus units this week is gonna take some thought.
Arena doesn't seem too bad. I decided to try my luck and use Sakura as the bonus, with Azura, Nino and Young Tiki doing the heavy lifting.
Currently sitting at 3 deathless wins; hopefully I can pull off 4 more. Fingers crossed!
My main concern is whether Nino can tank Reinhardt, but thankfully there are defensive tiles this week. If all else fails, I can try slapping on Triangle Adept 2, I guess.
Also it feels weird seeing Tiki take 0 damage from a TA Julia.
Tempest Trials, I will have to rely on a 4* Mae, which I am pretty concerned about. Last time my bonus was a 4* Tharja, but at least she had her broken Blade tome.
This time I don't have spare Blarblade (poor Odins were already sacrificed for Moonbow) or feathers. I guess I'll have to make Mae a dedicated support unit.
Arena doesn't seem too bad. I decided to try my luck and use Sakura as the bonus, with Azura, Nino and Young Tiki doing the heavy lifting.
Currently sitting at 3 deathless wins; hopefully I can pull off 4 more. Fingers crossed!
My main concern is whether Nino can tank Reinhardt, but thankfully there are defensive tiles this week. If all else fails, I can try slapping on Triangle Adept 2, I guess.
Also it feels weird seeing Tiki take 0 damage from a TA Julia.
Tempest Trials, I will have to rely on a 4* Mae, which I am pretty concerned about. Last time my bonus was a 4* Tharja, but at least she had her broken Blade tome.
This time I don't have spare Blarblade (poor Odins were already sacrificed for Moonbow) or feathers. I guess I'll have to make Mae a dedicated support unit.
I just used Alfonse this week, hopefully 4816 is enough to get into tier 20.
For tempest I still couldn't pull even one of the 40% units despite a lot of trying.
Higher bast stat total units give higher points, so dancers, cavalry and mages give less than melee infantry, fliers or armor.
The SP costs of your skills also matter, as well as rarity. Ideally you should use four 5*s with fully filled skill slots.
The discord server linked in the OP has many competitive players in it that gladly help with team building and other questions.
For tempest I still couldn't pull even one of the 40% units despite a lot of trying.
Higher bast stat total units give higher points, so dancers, cavalry and mages give less than melee infantry, fliers or armor.
The SP costs of your skills also matter, as well as rarity. Ideally you should use four 5*s with fully filled skill slots.
The discord server linked in the OP has many competitive players in it that gladly help with team building and other questions.
Can you replace Xander with a melee unit? Ranged and mounted characters have lower total stats than melee units, so replacing either one with a melee unit will raise your team's total score rating. Going all-melee is rough though, which is why I suggested replacing Xander instead of Nino.
inherit skills into every slot, including assist and special.
merge other 4* Olivias into that one.
Other than that, I guess you can cherrypick arena scores for higher ones and back out if it looks like the score will be a lower one.
Went on a SI spree, bumped my numbers from 195/200 to 182.
I miss the feathers already.
I've got a lvl 1 Alm I was going use to give Windsweep to somebody, but could never figure out who; now I guess I can use him as bonus fodder for the Tempest run. Still don't want to level him up though, I've got too many red swords as it is.
I miss the feathers already.
I've got a lvl 1 Alm I was going use to give Windsweep to somebody, but could never figure out who; now I guess I can use him as bonus fodder for the Tempest run. Still don't want to level him up though, I've got too many red swords as it is.
The_White_Rose
Member
Excellent Deathblow 3 and Brave Sword+ fodder
Haha, I did that this weekend. Went from 100k to 40k feathers. 199 to 192.
That does sound like effective strats and I probably will employ the same myself. One thing to watch out though, is whether the turns taken in a failed attempt counts this time around. Last time it didn't count because the enemies after a failed attempt just reset with reduced health. Since in this Tempest, dead enemies stay dead so failed attempts aren't as inconsequential as last time, it only makes sense if the speed score take into account the turns used in failed attempts.
I apologize, a lot of the Gamepedia Strategy and Build pages are outdated or woefully incomplete.
Because of your post we will now focus our efforts in updating pages for units that are currently arena bonus.
Peri is best with a Brave Lance build, this one won't get you a high score, but you're limited in that either way due to using a mounted unit (Alfonse would be better).
Here is the cheapest build I can come up with that barely requires investment and still yields useful kill counts - I debuffed her by 3 Atk to simulate non-+ Brave Lance:
Hmm, it might just be best for me to put my effort into making Anna and Alfonse 5*s so I don't have to worry about this stuff anymore.
...there's a 5th one?
The_White_Rose
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Thoughts on Legion? Worthy of promotion to five star?
No I got 3 5 star units in 1 summoning session. They were all summer units.
Didn't realize she had that.
I always sacrificed her for Moonbow.
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