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Framepacing is not a hardware problem, it is a software problem. The game is still steady 30fps. They fucked up their own code.
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Prey patch adds major stuttering to PS4 version, "worst ever" frame pacing
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Framepacing is not a hardware problem, it is a software problem. The game is still steady 30fps. They fucked up their own code.
psychotron
Member
Yes, it's mentioned in the video.
Erebus
Member
My bad, I've only read the summary.
xrnzaaas
Member
I wouldn't bet on them being able to fix the problem completely. It's a serious and complicated issue and it's not like Prey is a game as a service that's going to be updated and supported for months. One of the solutions would be to add the option to "turn on" the input lag for better performance, but that would be admitting defeat and wouldn't stop people from complaining about 'lazy devs'.
This might even be an issue inherent in CryEngine and not really possible for them to fully address.I wouldn't bet on them being able to fix the problem completely. It's a serious and complicated issue and it's not like Prey is a game as a service that's going to be updated and supported for months. One of the solutions would be to add the option to "turn on" the input lag for better performance, but that would be admitting defeat and wouldn't stop people from complaining about 'lazy devs'.
With Rise of the Tomb Raider, it was at least an original engine designed for the game and both Nixxes and CD could make necessary adjustments as they please, I would assume.
psychotron
Member
But it's not present on XB1. Vsync is enabled on that without a latency penalty, so the only difference would be resolution, right? Keep in mind I have no idea what I'm talking about, lol.
InsaneTiger
Member
I watched the video last night and I was thinking how appreciative I am for them bringing these issues to light. Similar to ROTTR and Diablo 3, their exposure of the issue led to Nixxes and Blizzard to make adjustments. Unfortunately, I think Bethesda/Arkane are the type to say it's good enough, deal with it.
Pandora012
Member
So if this is an issue with the engine as it seems to be. Would the best bet be to enable the lag, for a smoother experience? Or do you think they will be able to create a middle ground?
There seems to be an issue with this engine and the Ps4. No idea why, but I think other games that have used this engine have input lag on ps4.
psychotron
Member
I've written Bethesda, Arkane and the Prey Twitter. Not a single reply regarding fixing the PS4 issues. Radio silence on reddit too from Jess at Bethesda, who was previously answering us at times. It's crazy how they can just blow you off after breaking the game.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
Playing the game right now and think it's just fine. ᷅_(ヅ_/ ᷄
_/ ᷄InsaneTiger
Member
You're right, frame pacing isn't an issue if you think it's okay.Playing the game right now and think it's just fine. ᷅_(ヅ
mullet2000
Member
Playing the game right now and think it's just fine. ᷅_(ヅ
Yeah everyone is making up the issue you're right.
psychotron
Member
Playing the game right now and think it's just fine. ᷅_(ヅ
That's cool. Let me know if you still think it's cool when saves get corrupted, or an NPC just doesn't spawn in your game, making it impossible to enter certain doors, thus ruining your chance at a platinum. Glad the frame pacing and reduced FOV don't bother you though.
DieGo2SHAE
Member
So is this one of those rare multiplatform games that's better on the Xbone that the PS4? Like how every now and then last-gen some random game would be better on the PS3 than the 360?
Pandora012
Member
Pretty much, seems like this engine and ps4 don't mesh very well. It's okay if you aren't super sensitive. Was able to finish it fine with only 2 noticeable framerate dips. That said, if you have an Xbox get it on there. Or PC if you have one that can play it.
AgentOtaku
Member
Uuuuugghhhh
Yeah, i thought i wouldn't care or it wasnt that big of a deal. Played it and holy shit, its VERY noticable
psychotron
Member
Still not fixed and both Arkane and Bethesda refuse to answer anyone. This type of shit is inexcusable.
Well dam, glad I didn't pick it up when it was on sale a week or two ago. It's been a month, I would have expected atleast a word on the situation cause I really want to play this.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Seriously?! I was planning on getting this down the line, but I don't think I'll bother as they've handled pretty much everything about it poorly.
GHG
Member
This is such a shame. The PC version is fantastic and runs well across a good spread of hardware.
Very dissapointed if more people don't get to experience this game due to these issues
.Bloodporne
Member
And here I was holding off because I was waiting for HUD options to be patched in :/
I'm still really excited to play this game but PS4 is my only option and every time I check in on its status, it seems to either A) still be fucked up B) get worse. What's going on with this game?
Now that I think about it, how does this all actually happen? I don't know anything about the ins and outs so my question is: doesn't someone test these patches out and go "wait a minute guys, the game runs shitty now..."? Is it a matter of "well it's too late now, gotta get something out"?
I'm still really excited to play this game but PS4 is my only option and every time I check in on its status, it seems to either A) still be fucked up B) get worse. What's going on with this game?
Now that I think about it, how does this all actually happen? I don't know anything about the ins and outs so my question is: doesn't someone test these patches out and go "wait a minute guys, the game runs shitty now..."? Is it a matter of "well it's too late now, gotta get something out"?
Equanimity
Member
And this is why I won't support Arkane anymore. They refused to patch in supersampling for Dishonored 2 and messed up Prey with the Pro patch.
Arkane are incompetent on console optimisation.
xrnzaaas
Member
Well patches are supposed to fix various things, not just improve the overall performance. Maybe they figured most people won't notice or won't care (just like the majority of the gamers don't cause a riot when a game can't hold stable 30fps), maybe they didn't have any resources to fix everything, maybe they've broken too much and gave up. Who knows. :/
AgentOtaku
Member
I'm not one to just say I flat out won't support a developer anymore, but between what I heard with Dishonored 2 and what I've personally seen with Prey, I'm totally inclined to take this stance at this point
psychotron
Member
Bethesda was answering people on Reddit, but stopped weeks ago. Now there's a lot of posts about the issues, but just as many people defending Arkane....which blows my damn mind, lol.
Jakartalado
Member
I remember Bloodborne every time ...
Arkane just lost one copy. I was about to grab Prey on the last sale on Ps Store (more stupid, they didn't release the game on Brazil and Bethesda don't know why) then I saw the multiple problems and left without nothing.
Arkane just lost one copy. I was about to grab Prey on the last sale on Ps Store (more stupid, they didn't release the game on Brazil and Bethesda don't know why) then I saw the multiple problems and left without nothing.
Amibguous Cad
Member
I just beat it earlier this week. I was wondering why it performed so poorly. (I still really enjoyed it.
They don't seem to have mentioned the atrocious load times, though. They're simply unacceptable, particularlynina. Genre that relies so heavily on quickloading and quicksaving.
They don't seem to have mentioned the atrocious load times, though. They're simply unacceptable, particularlynina. Genre that relies so heavily on quickloading and quicksaving.
I just want them to fix it so I can finish the game. It went from being a totally consistent 30fps to so stuttery that movement feels bad and gives me a headache. I loved my time (20+ hours) with it before patch 1.02 and I want to see it through, especially since I'm a big fan of Arkane.
Before patch 1.04 the game was updated weekly. Nothing since then.
Before patch 1.04 the game was updated weekly. Nothing since then.
FaintDeftone
Junior Member
I sold my PS4 copy without finishing it. I completely regret buying this game on that platform. I'll just wait until the game drops to $20 on PC and buy it then.
Equanimity
Member
I'm not one to just say I flat out won't support a developer anymore, but between what I heard with Dishonored 2 and what I've personally seen with Prey, I'm totally inclined to take this stance at this point
I'm not one to usually boycott a dev either but between the lack of supersampling for D2, stuttery mess of Prey and poor definitive edition of the first Dishonored game on PS4, I'll give this studio a pass next time.
psychotron
Member
Complaining with our wallet is all we can do really. Such a shame as it's my GOTY on XB1.
psychotron
Member
So the Reddit thread complaining about no communication finally got a response from Bethesda.
At least we have some acknowledgement of the issue. Hopefully they can get it fixed up.
Same. I played it on PC and it's easily in my top 5 so far this year. Really hope that people give this game a shot once these issues are fixed because it's a fantastic game.
Bloodporne
Member
I was ready to pay full price for it but with all the shitty PS4 issues that have plagued it since release, I'll probably end up only dropping half on it by the time it's actually fixed. I know there's quite a few people out there in the same boat, so that's a shame.
Too bad the only PC I have is an antiquated work computer.
Pandora012
Member
Really hope they can fix this game for the playstation people. It's such a good game. Now if I can get a timetable for ng+ that would be awesome. To hold me over I'm finishing Dishonored 2, which is not as bad people said for ps4.
thatJohann
Member
Has this gotten fixed yet? Thinking of picking it up today. Its on sale for $40 at gamestop
phantasmic_glaive
Member
For me, it's actually better than what it was before the update that caused the frame pacing. But it's very playable and not that big a deal for me.
It's a good game (so far), so I would just get it. Seems like they don't want to go further down than the $40 price right now.
Stealthcobra
Member
Playing the game right now and think it's just fine. ᷅_(ヅ
I don't even know what it really is.. It would have to be horrific for me to notice
OrbitalBeard
Member
I love Arkane, but if this isn't fixed on PS4, I think I'm done buying their games. Completely ridiculous this is still an issue. I'd like to actually play the copy I bought.
