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[BeeDog]

Thanks for posting this. I'm quite annoyed with many current-gen games "fixing" problems by mucking up other aspects, i.e. ruining performance. The improved input lag is obviously very nice, but not at the cost of degrading the game's performance from its initial release.

 

[AbandonedTrolley]

Underpowered consoles and a market that keeps demanding "great graphics in a small cheap box"

Something gets compromised

Nah this isn't a compromise, they've fucked something up by accident. This will get fixed no doubt about it.

 

[RoboPlato]

This situations really frustrates me. It's one of my favorite games this year but I actually had to stop playing after 1.02 hit because it's so bad. It looks like it's running in the mid-20s at all time and introduced tearing. The input lag didn't even bother me so if this is the result of trying to fix that issue, then it's even more frustrating.

I actually was playing the game when the 1.02 patch downloaded. Quit out of the game to install it and then came back and it was immediately running worse. Performance on the same console should not be compromised after launch when there was no issue with it to begin with.

 

[ced]

Resumed playing yesterday with 1.04, I personally didn't notice any stuttering, which I did with 1.02 or whatever the previous one was. Haven't seen tearing yet either, which I did catch on previous version.

 

[Crayon]

Lol this poor game.

 

[eXistor]

I could easily adjust to the lag, but framepacing is a bigger issue imo.

 

[Mikey Jr.]

Bethesda sucks in technical.

News at 11.

 

[ced]

Bethesda sucks in technical.

News at 11.

Bethesda isn't the developer, Arkane is.

News at 12.

 

[Brandon F]

So a patch to a previously smooth game was the result of the hardware somehow becoming worse?

The intent of the patch was to increase visual performance, why isn't it possible that they flew too close to the sun when the Pro is merely a set of wax wings in a box? You do realize that just because even a PC can run a game perfectly at medium settings, doesn't mean you can just flip on the 4K ultra switch and expect nothing to change? This isn't the only conclusion to draw, but his point is a very strong possibility.

 

[Captain.Arabia]

Shame not 60 fps

 

[sixteen-bit]

Hopefully they can rectify this in a future patch

 

[adamsapple]

Whelp .. guess I'm not buying Prey afterall.

 

[cakely]

Well, that's awful. The game was very briefly on my radar again and now it's off.

 

[Pandora012]

Praise be that I beat the game before all this happened. Played on 1.03 and only had 2 instances after the patch where there were issues with the frame rate.

 

[ArjanN]

Buy it on PC if you can, great game.

This just seems like something they'll patch though.

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

Other developers seem to be doing ok with the same tools.

I guess it does vary by dev/engine but the video does cite Tomb Raider exhibiting similar problems. In this case the dev have a basically perfectly performing game on Xbox One through all updates and now quite a mess on similar more powerful hardware since updating and adding Pro.

Some sort of software issue between PS4 and Pro is causing issues and if not strictly following the developer docs breaks things? Saying that, you'd think it would be caught at cert/QA....

 

[psychotron]

Wow, they really need to get their shit together. As always, John exposes shitty frame pacing, which many people overlook. Also, great catch on that FOV bug. I'm on XB1 and didn't even pick up on it.

 

[RoboPlato]

The intent of the patch was to increase visual performance, why isn't it possible that they flew too close to the sun when the Pro is merely a set of wax wings in a box? You do realize that just because even a PC can run a game perfectly at medium settings, doesn't mean you can just flip on the 4K ultra switch and expect nothing to change? This isn't the only conclusion to draw, but his point is a very strong possibility.

The issue was introduced in 1.02, before PS4 Pro support was added, and impacts both PS4 models. It's not due to the addition of the Pro features.

 

[Grim Patron]

It was smooth before? WTF.

I'm still waiting to play the game. I want them to fix it first.

Play better games until this mess is fixed.

 

[ActWan]

So glad I went with the PC version..the PS4 one just keeps getting worse.

 

[peppers]

Is this the first game that doesn't meet the minimum requirements placed by Sony to be on PS4 Pro? Seems to be 1080p/30.

 

[vanx0]

He moves his mouse, but the smoothness won't come out
He's tearing how, everybody's jeering now
The patch's come out, time's up, over, blaow!

snap back to reality! oh there goes gravity

 

[Icedburden]

Underpowered consoles and a market that keeps demanding "great graphics in a small cheap box"

Something gets compromised

Hey look, it's hyperbole!

 

[stan423321]

This is very tangential, but is "own goal" a term that is commonly understood by American audience? Does it happen often enough in sports other than soccer?

The Polish equivalent is closer to "suicide shot", typically abbreviated by typical Polish word manipulation on "suicide" word itself (never seen it used for actual suicides), which is, well, somewhat more obviously negative at price of being somewhat overdramatic... Anyway, modern Polish has quite a few soccer references, but it's weird for me to see one in non-soccer game article in English, even with Eurogamer obviously being closer to British take on the language than American one.

 

[Gxgear]

Phew, dodged a bullet and returned my launch copy.

 

[jett]

Man. Are they just not testing their patches?

 

[Green Yoshi]

Underpowered consoles and a market that keeps demanding "great graphics in a small cheap box"

Something gets compromised

I'm sure the PS4 Pro is much more powerful than the Xbox 360, which didn't suffer from frame pacing issues in most of its games.

Perhaps the Cry Engine isn't optimized for consoles. Sniper Ghost Warrior 3 also has a lot of technical problems.

 

[Ashtar]

Jeez I was gonna but the bullet and buy it for 40 this Friday maybe I'll just buy injustice 2 ultimate instead

 

[inpHilltr8r]

programming is hard y'all

and this shit happened before

but now y'all be paying attention

Spoiler

because clicks

 

[lukeskymac]

Underpowered consoles and a market that keeps demanding "great graphics in a small cheap box"

Something gets compromised

Add me to the list of people piling on this post.

That's complete rubbish.

 

[phantasmic_glaive]

I literally started the game a day before the patch and I could tell it didn't look that great. Started it again and I didn't want to put it down.
I really don't know wtf people are talking about, it looks and plays great to me. And waaayy better than before the patch.

 

[Frostman]

Poor Framepacing seems to be a common problem on PS4. Consoles are really annoying me this gen, as far as performance goes.

 

[Gator86]

One of the best games of the last couple years and they just can't stop shooting themselves in the foot. Just one thing after another. You'd feel bad for Arkane if they weren't the ones continually dropping the ball.

 

[Deleted member 325805]

I don't get how devs can release games like this? Surely they have the same tools or better than DF and can see the game is stuttering like crazy. Hell, you can tell without tools.

 

[OBias]

I wonder how much blame can be put on CryEngine in this case.

 

[disappeared]

Maybe a stupid question but does this affect the base ps4 version in any way?

 

[Gator86]

I don't get how devs can release games like this? Surely they have the same tools or better than DF and can see the game is stuttering like crazy. Hell, you can tell without tools.

Same reason as most bad game things: too little time/resources and hopes that the good press will outweigh the bad, in terms of impacting short-term sales before they can actually fix it, if they even do.

 

[Yohane]

Don't they test those patches before pushing them out?

 

[valkyre]

Frame pacing generation.

Cant wait for all the "i cannot even detect frame pacing issues, so who cares" , comments.

 

[Backfoggen]

Ok, what's going on with the frame pacing vs input lag thing. Are there power reasons behind this whole thing?

 

[psychotron]

Maybe a stupid question but does this affect the base ps4 version in any way?

Did you watch the video? Stuttering, tearing and FOV bug present in both base and Pro.

 

[nowheretorun]

Sounds like the same thing in Pro version of Skyrim Remastered - never fixed and £30 down the drain as its unplayable mess.

Nice one Sony/Other Developers...

 

[cakely]

This is very tangential, but is "own goal" a term that is commonly understood by American audience? Does it happen often enough in sports other than soccer?

The Polish equivalent is closer to "suicide shot", typically abbreviated by typical Polish word manipulation on "suicide" word itself (never seen it used for actual suicides), which is, well, somewhat more obviously negative at price of being somewhat overdramatic... Anyway, modern Polish has quite a few soccer references, but it's weird for me to see one in non-soccer game article in English, even with Eurogamer obviously being closer to British take on the language than American one.

Yeah, "own goal" is pretty common parlance here in the US.

Sadly, it's probably because of this incident:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9s_Escobar

 

[jem0208]

Shame about these issues as the game itself is one of my favorites of the year. It's really really good. It's just that...it's only REALLY good on PC.

It's fine on the Xbox.

I've had a few minor FPS drops bit nothing extreme and never during combat.

 

[paragonpro]

I guess im not beating it just yet

 

[Cmerrill]

Underpowered consoles and a market that keeps demanding "great graphics in a small cheap box"

Something gets compromised

The only thing compromised is your integrity with this shitty post. You're clueless.


That being said, I'm not buying now.

 

[Bliddo]

Great, I just bought it. :/

 

[psychotron]

It's fine on the Xbox.

I've had a few minor FPS drops bit nothing extreme and never during combat.

It's been good for me too except for

Spoiler

Cargo Bay

and

Spoiler

Reactor

. Those areas had huge drops.

 

[Incendiary]

Game was playing fine for me before, ugh. Should have finished it when I had the chance to play it without problems. Bah.

 

[Xenoblade]

It is completely unacceptable for a game to have bad framepacing. Bloodborne, FFXV, Skyrim and now Prey are all games I would have bought but haven't because of these issues. I don't have a gaming PC so these are actual lost sales.