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Preacher S2 |OT| The Gang Visits New Orleans - Mondays 9/8c
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RoyaleDuke
Banned
Well caught the episode on the DVR.
I want to like it, but it just diverts too much from decent writing, they could've had the changes to Tulip and still had more of the comic storyline.
I don't know, part of me wants to love it because there are these little glimmers and moments where the show feels like the comic book, then they just do something I'd expect in any other tv series or something completely boring comparison to what happened in the comic book.
Also the fact they are truncating so many storylines is kind of fucking...not good.
I want to like it, but it just diverts too much from decent writing, they could've had the changes to Tulip and still had more of the comic storyline.
I don't know, part of me wants to love it because there are these little glimmers and moments where the show feels like the comic book, then they just do something I'd expect in any other tv series or something completely boring comparison to what happened in the comic book.
Also the fact they are truncating so many storylines is kind of fucking...not good.
Miles Quaritch
Member
It was just anal, so I'll still get into heaven...
And I honestly expecting a better reason for why she tried to commit suicide.
And I honestly expecting a better reason for why she tried to commit suicide.
Dominican Power
Member
Simping doesn't pay. Now you in hell Eugene.
Miles Quaritch
Member
I had a feeling Eugune would be the 'nice guy' as soon as the scene started.
Should finish off the first season myself, but quit about 4 or 5 episodes in after feeling it strayed way too far from the comic...and gave us a hell of a lot of nothing in its place. Unless things improved by the end.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
This episode was... not very good. Too much annoying jazz filling up screen time.Too many "who the fuck is that guy" moments. Jesse and Tulip being annoyed with one another and not talking to each other is obnoxious. The Eugene stuff was boring and seemed rather pointless. The French dude was funny (esp. when you understand what he says) but that's about it.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
This season has been pretty perfect tonally and pacing wise. Hope it keeps up.
Teknopathetic
Member
Why did Preacher just have a better shot fight scene than most MCU films?
I was thinking the same thing except I'm watching Iron Fist and those fight scenes are boring as hell, this one was good.
Miles Quaritch
Member
I was wondering why he even decided to fight them. Just tell them to stand still or run away.
It was a cool fight scene, didn't realise Jesse was such a tank though. Took multiple hits from batons and kept going.
I thought that was Gillian Anderson. OMG finally Starr. Pacing is good to too slow or fast. I didn't know the show was over until credits rolled. Why didn't Gunslinger showed up when Jesses used his power?
Any Gaffer part of series advisor* for this show? (Fills up Sony TV weekly TV survey).
Any Gaffer part of series advisor* for this show? (Fills up Sony TV weekly TV survey).
Moff
Member
He will certainly come after him soon.
To be honest it's pretty consistent with the book that Jesse prefers to try and punch people rather than use his power. You can probably rationalise it away that he doesn't like using The Word when he doesn't have to, unless he's really, really, reeeeally pissed off.
We've only seen him walking slowly and menacing toward Jesse. He seems to take his time.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
I liked the hell scene in this episode. And one of the few good takeaways from the first season is that, as soon as the loop started, I could tell that's what they were going for. Eugene has had a rough life.
The "I can't tell my hero friend my deep dark secret past because he won't understand" trope is kinda tired, but what the hell, I'm intrigued to see what Tulip did to get this mob boss so pissed off at her.
The lounge singer swerve was subtle. I don't remember, was the initial guy at the bar with the flag tie in the van at the end when the reveal is made? Because that would have been brilliant. Not sure what they're up to but more wrinkles is good.
Pacing is light years better than last year.
The "I can't tell my hero friend my deep dark secret past because he won't understand" trope is kinda tired, but what the hell, I'm intrigued to see what Tulip did to get this mob boss so pissed off at her.
The lounge singer swerve was subtle. I don't remember, was the initial guy at the bar with the flag tie in the van at the end when the reveal is made? Because that would have been brilliant. Not sure what they're up to but more wrinkles is good.
Pacing is light years better than last year.
I'd assume they are referring to the one shot we got of him in Season 1.
The Driver
Member
I'll admit I haven't actually read the comics but I'm guessing they employ a similar tactic (lucky cover/quick thinking/speedy escapes) of essentially making the Saint "miss" his shots, otherwise there's no way the trio should ever encounter him and not fucking immediately die if he doesn't miss.
At least with the path they took here it fulfills the action quota for the episode and allows close calls with the character without the writers having to bend over backwards trying to figure out how to not let the group get killed. Though I guess if genesis works on the Saint in the comic that goes a long way towards helping the group with the not getting blown to shit thing.
Every shot hits, every shot kills. He is the Saint of Killers, God's hitman.
As for how they survive... well Cassidy is already dead, and Jesse has the voice of god.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
It's an odd choice to go in that direction. I'm assuming the show wants to maintain some tension with Saint of Killers around, so people don't ask "Why doesn't Jesse just tell him to stop?" I don't know why the writers would bother being concerned about that though, the comic is right there, it did the work for you. So they change one thing, but then have to change another (Saint of Killers missing) to make it work.
As a comic reader, I'm totally okay with the changes in regards to the Saint. In the comics, he never misses a shot but Jesse's VOG works on him so that immediately renders his threat to Jesse (personally) as borderline nonexistent. Here he may miss a shot but the VOG DOESN'T work on him, so that already makes him a bigger threat to the protagonists than he was in the comic. I've always been in the mindset of not changing things from their source material but honestly I don't mind it within the realm and the world the show itself has built. Similar to arseface, him trying to kill himself because of Kurt Cobain in 2016 would have been fucking stupid.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
lol I thought he looked like GRRM too
Well yeah, but how hard would it be to come up with a fictional rock star inspired by Cobain to have a similar situation? What they went with, with that brain-dead (both literally and figuratively lol) bimbo, was just... wtf
Kadayi
Banned
Same.
Also Mrs Kettleman. Thought I recognised her. Also agreed that she looks a lot better without the fake wig.
Freewheelin'
Member
Haven't read the comics, but fuck me I'm so glad they went with the Saint here over the one in the comic. Can't miss but can be stopped by Jesse any time. No thanks.
Nah man. The Saint is way more terrifying with everyone knowing he's an insane threat despite the fact that Jessie can use the word of god on him.
"Just how fast you reckon you can preach?"
RoyaleDuke
Banned
This is my problem, the comics are legit a million times better than this show.
Jesse is unrecognizable.
Cassidy is pretty much perfect.
Tulip is great because she sucked in the books.
Then you go and character assassinate and combine story arcs that don't belong together.
Like, I don't know what the fuck they are doing. Honestly, I liked the changes made to TWD for the most part, but this is just... ugh.
I really hoped with that awful first season that maybe they would get it right in S2.
The thing with the Saint is that he's a force of nature. He plays a specific role and only shows up like 4 times across the entire comic series, but each time it's pure unadulterated chaos.
The show is already treating the Saint like the prequels treated lightsabers.
"Everyone loves the Saint of Killers, lets put him everywhere! It'll be great!"
Spuck-uk
Banned
Every shot hits, every shot kills. He is the Saint of Killers, God's hitman.
As for how they survive... well Cassidy is already dead, and Jesse has the voice of god.
Thos panel reminded me so badly that Steve Dilton basically only knows how to draw one face.
Spuck-uk
Banned
I think the show is fine a great job of adapting the comics for TV, rather than slavishly trying to copy it ala watchmen.
Nobody wants to see Jessie with a mullet or hear all the painfully adolescent lines from the comic verbatim.
Teknopathetic
Member
"I think the show is fine a great job of adapting the comics for TV, rather than slavishly trying to copy it ala watchmen.
Nobody wants to see Jessie with a mullet or hear all the painfully adolescent lines from the comic verbatim."
You can keep the structure, overall story, character motivations, etc. the same without copying the exact hairstyle or lines 1:1. Come on, now.
Cassidy without his shades is a wack as fuck change, even though Joseph Gilgun is perfectly cast. Jesse and his Dad are both terrible alterations, character-wise.
Nobody wants to see Jessie with a mullet or hear all the painfully adolescent lines from the comic verbatim."
You can keep the structure, overall story, character motivations, etc. the same without copying the exact hairstyle or lines 1:1. Come on, now.
Cassidy without his shades is a wack as fuck change, even though Joseph Gilgun is perfectly cast. Jesse and his Dad are both terrible alterations, character-wise.
NeoGold123
Member
The show has me really interested in the comics but I'm pretty glad I didn't read them before watching the show. It seems like the general consensus is that those who did read before are not having as much fun.
Patrick Bateman
Member
Just started the second season. I'm loving what I've seen so far.
RoyaleDuke
Banned
About to go check my parents DVR to watch the new episode, here is to hoping it gets better. :/
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Hitler's worst day is when he showed off his art and didn't get into art school? The fuck. man fuck hitler and fuck this show.
TheNatureBoy
Member
Eugene is going to end up like Nas from The Night Of dealing with the goons in hell.
Brodus Clay getting those Preacher and GLOW checks.
I assumed Tulip might have ripped Viktor off in terms of money, but the reason was much more personal than that.
The Billy Joel fight scene was really cool.
Harilek getting a juicy role any actor would die for, little did he know how literal his dreams would become.
Brodus Clay getting those Preacher and GLOW checks.
I assumed Tulip might have ripped Viktor off in terms of money, but the reason was much more personal than that.
The Billy Joel fight scene was really cool.
Harilek getting a juicy role any actor would die for, little did he know how literal his dreams would become.
- A|V Club Review: Jesse finds God and Hitlers in Hell on Preacher.
- Sepinwall: Preacher Gets To Know Hitler And Offers Another Crazy Fight In Viktor.
- Vulture: Preacher Recap: Hell Is Other People.
- Sepinwall: Preacher Gets To Know Hitler And Offers Another Crazy Fight In Viktor.
- Vulture: Preacher Recap: Hell Is Other People.
CorporateClown
Member
Enjoyed this episode for the mystery around the actor and the fight scene. Tulip reveal was eh, but whatever.
As someone who never got around to reading the comic, I'm glad this is different as it still gives me incentive to read it when I get some time.
As someone who never got around to reading the comic, I'm glad this is different as it still gives me incentive to read it when I get some time.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Yeah, it's really fucking dumb.
And the Tulip backstory... sigh, guess we might as well give up any pretense that this character is even based on Tulip whatsoever, which could be OK if only that story lead up to anything interesting, but right now I really don't fucking care
Baroquemantic
Member
Really great episode. Loving this season so far. The fight at the end was really well done, and the Tulip backstory stuff is interesting. Actually wasn't expecting him to be her husband. The Hitler stuff was weird, though.