Yea I am sure they are solely dependent on sales in Japan....
What should people be saying about Japanese sales in a Japanese Sales thread?
Yea I am sure they are solely dependent on sales in Japan....
Splatoon 2 will easily be the best selling exclusive in Japan this generation.
Splatoon 2 will easily be the best selling exclusive in Japan this generation.
Yea I am sure they are solely dependent on sales in Japan....
this is a fucking tragedy for nintendo.
they could sell, what, 300k switches in a week?
instead they'd sell like 60k.
what a major fuck up of epic proportions.
Mario Odyssey
I know it makes sense since this is the Media Create topic...Yea I am sure they are solely dependent on sales in Japan....
X|X-2 HD did ~350k FW on PS3 and Vita. Huge drop.
Hakoniwa looks like it hit the basement Hero Must Die and Penny Punching Princess went to. Except with seemingly a much higher budget. PS4 has really been absolute garbage for them in Japan.
SE and NIS with some "smart" PS4-only picks.
I don't think we can pretend that these companies are making vacuum decisions on these products though if we want realistic analysis of business decisions.........media create thread though. And FF12 is also not as popular than FF10 outside of japan so i can see the sales outside of jp not doing that hot too.
X|X-2 HD did ~350k FW on PS3 and Vita. Huge drop.
What should people be saying about Japanese sales in a Japanese Sales thread?
........media create thread though. And FF12 is also not as popular than FF10 outside of japan so i can see the sales outside of jp not doing that hot too.
Gee thanks guys i didnt know this was japan sales thread..... He was making fun of the publishers for going ps4 only and i just wanted to say those decisions are not made solely with japan sales in mind....I know it makes sense since this is the Media Create topic...
I don't think we can pretend that these companies are making vacuum decisions on these products though if we want realistic analysis of business decisions.
I'm sure a Vita port of GTA V would be a great idea for Japan, but I think you probably immediately understand why that didn't happen and wouldn't actually be worthwhile to Rockstar.
Similarly, if we had an Indian game sales thread, should we be condemning Square Enix for not putting Final Fantasy XIII on the PS2, or should we be realistic about what place the Indian game market has in the game's overall business?
Gee thanks guys i didnt know this was japan sales thread..... He was making fun of the publishers for going ps4 only and i just wanted to say those decisions are not made solely with japan sales in mind....
I guess they could have delayed the Japanese release of both games, but this is a pretty good timing for the overseas release of FFXII given the lack of competition.
I don't think we can pretend that these companies are making vacuum decisions on these products though if we want realistic analysis of business decisions.
I'm sure that with those two games in particular, western sales will make up for it with FFXII HD and NISA will probably port the other one to the Switch for a western release.
At which point, and with this rather pathetic performance, you may as well have just waited.
So its not a blanket case either way but in some cases.
........media create thread though. And FF12 is also not as popular than FF10 outside of japan so i can see the sales outside of jp not doing that hot too.
I agree, but then again, NIS has been living off of these 5k sellers for a few years, with the odd 30k+ sellers like Coven or Yomawari.
I agree, but then again, NIS has been living off of these 5k sellers for a few years, with the odd 30k+ sellers like Coven or Yomawari.
I agree, but then again, NIS has been living off of these 5k sellers for a few years, with the odd 30k+ sellers like Coven or Yomawari.
do you think final fantasy xiii hd trilogy would sell more or less than tza.
Mario Odyssey
It's not the Edo period, Japan isn't isolated anymore.
Gee thanks guys i didnt know this was japan sales thread..... He was making fun of the publishers for going ps4 only and i just wanted to say those decisions are not made solely with japan sales in mind....
100%.
Japan and Asia are probably the only places in the world where Lightning is recognized.
Unlike some other protagonist named... Vaan?
While decisions may not make sense locally, it might make sense globally, is what you're saying. I agree with that, but discussing decisions made by japanese companies aimed at the japanese market is what people do here. In that sense, both companies being japanese and the japanese market being stronger with handhelds, the lack of a Vita or Switch release shows how the PS4 audience can hardly carry the market by itself.
I'm sure that with those two games in particular, western sales will make up for it with FFXII HD and NIS will probably port the other one to the Switch for a western release.
I agree, but then again, NIS has been living off of these 5k sellers for a few years, with the odd 30k+ sellers like Coven or Yomawari.
Given how badly their last Switch game did in the region, who knows if Japanese retailers even wanted to order Switch copies of the thing, since they're still stuck with a mountain of Disgaea.
I do think the originai XIII was liked by the Japanese fans unlike XII so an HD remaster should do decent-ish at 200k min. Overseas, I am not sure about that as I think TZA is more popular.I don't know. The huge drops between sequels for XIII tell me that Lightning approval might only go so far as character merch sales.
Is this actually true? I don't think any/many of the Switch launch titles at retail can even be found, they were incredibly limited.
Well, it depends where the chart cuts off, since they shipped a bit under 20K, only sold 20-40% of the shipment the first week, and then were below whatever the weekly number cutoff was after their 5K debut.
Depends what the mobile game is as i could see that if done properly satisfying a lot of the AC demand and thus lower sales for the switch game (but make nintendo a boat load of cash in the process)
Only reason I ask is because I know some of the releases are hard to find, and I know that Vinnk has mentioned never seeing any of the titles (from launch) on discount or in stock.
Well, Amazon still has it in stock and they're selling it for 14 bucks less than the download code. Lol.
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B01MTARRT0/
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B06XBZY37C/
Wow. Bomba!Well, Amazon still has it in stock and they're selling it for 14 bucks less than the download code. Lol.
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B01MTARRT0/
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B06XBZY37C/
Well, Amazon still has it in stock and they're selling it for 14 bucks less than the download code. Lol.
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B01MTARRT0/
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B06XBZY37C/
I feel if there was a higher degree of resources put towards the title it would've been received better. 3DS is not the best platform for 3D shooters. If the game had just been delayed and put on Switch in 2017 along with MP4 and Metroid 2: Samus returns being anounced. People would likely have been more excited about Federation Force and the backlash wouldn't have happened.I actually agree that federation force was dead the minute they attached the Metroid name to it. You don't go for 6-8 years without a true Metroid title then drop a co-op shooter on us and call it Metroid. It's actually a pretty good game. If it was a new IP people may have given it a chance. As a Metroid title it was blacklisted before people even gave it a chance.
In other words the price collapse is slower than it was for Final Fantasy 15.
For the record, I don't think the sales of a niche simulation RPG in Japan will tell us much of anything about what the market will and won't do and how 3rd parties will react.
I at least totally get the amount of scrutinization surrounding Monster Hunter. That's a series that actually sells overwhelming in Japan. Similarly I could get Nihon Falcom, as they still sell a good chunk of their business domestically. I could even get Final Fantasy, since while 1 out of 6+ million is a pretty small chunk percentage wise, it's at least a large absolute number. But Nippon Ichi's Japanese releases? They're just not relevant. It's the same situation as all the fighting games just announced at EVO. These things exist for the overseas market and don't move enough at home to even be worth announcing in Japan first despite all these companies hailing from there.
Wow. Bomba!
Good thing West completely saved third party support from NIS.
Hey it's not as bad a real lottery. You just don't win any money....3000+ people joined the lottery for 240 Switches today. Like, why even bother...
Was probably built with ports for the west in mind since it's in UE4.
At which point, and with this rather pathetic performance, you may as well have just waited.
I'm sure a Vita port of GTA V would be a great idea for Japan, but I think you probably immediately understand why that didn't happen and wouldn't actually be worthwhile to Rockstar.
Let's just look at Nippon Ichi's last game for example.
Good grief, that's quite a drop. IP killed?
It's 40% off on Amazon a week after release. I'm guessing other retailers will follow suit if they haven't already.
Media Create: Road to 1.000.000 hardware
PS4 - 46 weeks - 2.500.000 software
WIU - 33 weeks - 1.634.000 software
NSW - 17 weeks - 1.724.000 software
First Party
Total first party sales - > 1,402,903*
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 535,636
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 513,038
1-2 Switch - > 224,829*
Arms - 129,400
* Added Week 25, 2017's sales for the game at 20th in MC Charts to 1-2 Switch's LTD for Week 24, 2017 in order to get a ceiling
Third party
Total third party sales - > 321,097
Let's consider all the third party known sales so far
Super Bomberman R (as of Week 17, 2017) - 77,015
Dragon Quest Heroes I-II for Nintendo Switch (as of Week 12, 2017) - 41,419
Seiken Densetsu Collection - 37,728 (as of Week 24, 2017)
Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers (as of Week 22, 2017) - 21,139
Puyo Puyo Tetris S (as of Week 10, 2017) - 17,323
Minna de Wai Wai! Spelunker (as of Week 16, 2017) - 7,447
Total known sales - 202,071
Third party sales still unkown (Disgaea 5: Complete + I am Sestuna + Nobunaga's Ambition: Sphere of Influence with Power Up Kit + Romance of the Three Kingdoms XIII with Power Up Kit + all the other games with weekly sales missing) - 119,026
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Cross-tracker theory (so, it can't be 100% reliable) by assuming Dengeki post-launch sales were similar to MC's sales outside of Top 20, going with MC debuts
First party
Total first party sales - 1,402,603
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 535,636
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 513,038
1-2 Switch - 224,529
Arms - 129,400
Third party
Total third party sales - 321,397
Super Bomberman R - 92,427
Dragon Quest Heroes I-II for Nintendo Switch - 58,524 (as of Week 23, 2017) | < 60,079*
Puyo Puyo Tetris S - 40,965 (as of Week 24, 2017) | < 41,876*
Seiken Densetsu Collection - 39,084
Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers - 24,595 (as of Week 24, 2017) | < 25,506*
Minna de Wai Wai! Spelunker (as of Week 20, 2017) - 14,211 (as of Week 20, 2017) | < 18,275**
* same criteria used for 1-2 Switch, but translated with Dengeki numbers and by using the sales at 50th for each week in order to get a ceiling
** the weakest estimate considering how many recent Dengeki charts it missed
Total theorical sales - < 277,247
Third party sales for the titles that never appeared on MC top 20 (Disgaea 5: Complete + I am Setsuna + Nobunaga's Ambition: Sphere of Influence with Power Up Kit + Romance of the Three Kingdoms XIII with Power Up Kit) - > 44,150
But I heard you should go PS4-only if you're aiming at the west.... hmmm
In the article about the western preorders the NIS dood says it sold less than 20k in Japan which would imply its at least above 10k.
Is there any need to mix the trackers? Isnt it better to just stick to Dengeki in that case?It's unfortunate that we have to rely on mixing Media Create and Dengeki, but I also suppose the actual MC numbers shouldn't be that far from my estimates.
Hopefully the people who think so don't look at what's going on with Nights of Azure 2 on Amazon.com
Is there any need to mix the trackers? Isnt it better to just stick to Dengeki in that case?