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Twin Peaks Season 3 OT |25 Years Later...It Is Happening Again

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superfly

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That was the only music so far worthy of the roadhouse. Absolutely fantastic.

Few allegorical things I noted:

Lots of the janey-e moments (the red pumps and fidgety crossed legs were reminiscent of Audrey)

Miriam head down in the trailer with blood flowing made me think of the skull crushing woodsman of part 8

The red coffee cup smashing through the window was mighty similar to the one Dougie coop had in part 9
 
That was easily the worst episode so far. No surprises apart from Becky's husband being an abuser as well as a loser.

- There's no fucking need for the casino owners to come back, let alone have most of the episode.
- Richard is the worst, a really nasty piece of work. Making him the son of a beloved character (which appears to be the case) isn't great though.
- Hawk talking to the log lady was a callback to his Glastonbury Grove trip in ep 1 (or 2)? Still the most out of place scene for me.
- Why did Tammy walk in slo-mo to Cole's room?
- Why did Laura appear at the door?
- Chad continues to be a dick.

Log Lady was my favourite part of the episode by far. Most of this just felt like stalling and revisiting things we didn't need to see, like the casino owners and Jacoby's radio show.

Oh, and no Bad Coop apart from a photo cameo, or most of the sheriff dept.

Was the red coffee cup from Becky's place, or was it supposed to be Linda's doing?
 

Kadayi

Banned
Also, I think Richard is Bad Coops evil coma rape son.

Wouldn't surprise me. He's an irredeemable piece of shit for sure, he can bunk with Chad when they're both behind bars, or face down taking a dirt nap in a shallow grave.

Oh, and no Bad Coop apart from a photo cameo or the sheriff dept.

The fact that he's in the room way early on in the actual footage does seem to suggest that he may be the mysterious billionaire that was eluded to when it comes to who was funding the room.

That was easily the worst episode so far. No surprises apart from Becky's husband being an abuser as well as a loser.

He'll get his for sure, they're setting him up for a fall. Maybe bunk with Rich & Chad.
 
As a standalone episode I can see why people would find that one weak even though it still had some memorable bits. When watched properly sandwiched between the rest of the season it'll probably come across much better (depending on how the next episodes turn out). That's to be expected of a project that's made as an eighteen hour movie while being treated as a conventional television show. Remember though, you've got to set up the pins before you knock them down. It's easy to get impatient week to week though.

I'm still loving it just as much as I did from episode one, but I'm still having a problem of becoming overly anxious while I watch. It seems that I can't stop myself from checking the clock a couple times while viewing every week. It's not because I'm bored or think the show is too slow, but it's more of me dreading the episode ending and I feel like it's constantly on a timer. I imagine this will get worse for me the closer we get to the end of the season. I don't want Twin Peaks to end.

Yeah, I know, it's ridiculous.
 

superfly

Junior Member
As a standalone episode I can see why people would find that one weak even though it still had some memorable bits. When watched properly sandwiched between the rest of the season it'll probably come across much better (depending on how the next episodes turn out). That's to be expected of a project that's made as an eighteen hour movie while being treated as a conventional television show. Remember though, you've got to set up the pins before you knock them down. It's easy to get impatient week to week though.

I'm still loving it just as much as I did from episode one, but I'm still having a problem of becoming overly anxious while I watch. It seems that I can't stop myself from checking the clock a couple times while viewing every week. It's not because I'm bored or think the show is too slow, but it's more of me dreading the episode ending and I feel like it's constantly on a timer. I imagine this will get worse for me the closer we get to the end of the season. I don't want Twin Peaks to end.

Yeah, I know, it's ridiculous.

I know exactly how you feel!
 

Mariolee

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As a standalone episode I can see why people would find that one weak even though it still had some memorable bits. When watched properly sandwiched between the rest of the season it'll probably come across much better (depending on how the next episodes turn out). That's to be expected of a project that's made as an eighteen hour movie while being treated as a conventional television show. Remember though, you've got to set up the pins before you knock them down. It's easy to get impatient week to week though.

I'm still loving it just as much as I did from episode one, but I'm still having a problem of becoming overly anxious while I watch. It seems that I can't stop myself from checking the clock a couple times while viewing every week. It's not because I'm bored or think the show is too slow, but it's more of me dreading the episode ending and I feel like it's constantly on a timer. I imagine this will get worse for me the closer we get to the end of the season. I don't want Twin Peaks to end.

Yeah, I know, it's ridiculous.

You can be ridiculous with me, because I find myself doing the same thing for the same reason.
 

Kadayi

Banned
Still looking for the loose ends mention but there's this from Rolling Stone interview:

http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/feat...s-twin-peaks-revival-mulholland-drive-w482337

Good interview. I particularly like him addressing this point: -

You recently said you weren't doing movies ever again –

[Interrupts] I didn't say that. That was a misquote. I just said that feature films are not having a great time right now – at least the kind of feature films that I would want to see or make. Theaters want money, so they put in films that are going to generate a big audience. But the art houses are mostly gone. I say the new art house is cable television.

I always thought the headline 'Lynch done with movies' was hyperbolic. The guys absolutely right that cable TV, offers more scope and freedom for the sort of things creatives do.

Personally, I'd love to see more TP after this season wraps, but even if that doesn't happen, I'd love to see Lynch produce more TV.

Also +1 me to the anxious club. I don't want it to end either.
 

Vectorman

Banned
Personally, I'd love to see more TP after this season wraps, but even if that doesn't happen, I'd love to see Lynch produce more TV.

If this show gets Emmy nominations, there's a chance it could happen. Just not sure he would get a budget for like he did for this season. If not, that's probably it.
 
For those complaining about Del Rio's performance, be thankful we didn't get the unbearable Ed Sheeran who appeared on the 'other' big cable show last night.

Which, incidentally, continues to be incredibly boring for a show with dragons in it.
 
Log Lady's full speech, credit to 'soundchaser', one of the fine folks over at Dugpa. Thought it was worth publishing here for discussion purposes:

Hawk…electricity is humming. You hear it in the mountains and rivers. You see it dance among the seas and stars, and glowing around the moon. But in these days, the glow is dying. What will be in the darkness that remains?

The Truman brothers are both “true men”; they are your brothers. And the others – the good ones who have been with you…now the circle is almost complete.

Watch and listen to the dream of time…and space. It all comes out now, flowing like a river. That which is and is not.

Hawk…

Laura is the one.
 

gforguava

Member
People complaining about this episode, I don't even want to understand the frame of mind it takes have that train of thought. This episode had a Dougie sex scene and Albert going on a date with Jane Adams' character and a Rebekah Del Rio closing number and had Harry Dean Stanton playing a song and had Candie.

And Holy shit at Candie, this show is just dropping wonderfully bonkers female characters all over the place.
 
Loved it. I feel like a broken record in this thread but I love every episode of this show so far, Lynch pulling out his greatest hits with these episodes, dope music, humor is great, the violence is as harsh as its always been with him, weird juxtaposition with the silliness etc. etc. etc. y'all heard it before

Richard Horne/Dennis Hopper jr. is electric in this show so far. The worst person we'll have seen all year in film or tv. I've gotta hear from Audrey soon, how the hell did she spawn this..hellspawn lol.

Dougie sex scene was hilarious. I'm surprised at how physically fit McLachlan was too, and so was Janey too apparently. Casino shit was pretty funny.

And that musical performance was transfixing too, that woman has an incredible voice.
 

The God

Member
it turning out that Evil Cooper raped Audrey would be the most heartbreaking thing in the show for me. Such a total flip from her and Dale's original relationship.
 

Kadayi

Banned
If this show gets Emmy nominations, there's a chance it could happen. Just not sure he would get a budget for like he did for this season. If not, that's probably it.

Given how the Emmys completely snubbed The Leftovers, I wouldn't be surprised if Twin Peaks didn't even get a nod. I suspect it's too edgy for them, and unless you're invested in TP then it's not going to get watched. Just because the critics like something, doesn't mean the Emmys will.

least favorite episode so far. great music number though

Yeah, I figured it was the singer from Mulholland Drive. Damn, she can sing something fierce and hold a note.
 
I'm still wondering if we're doing the Barenstein Rift thing, and if the sheriffs dept will emerge from the lodge (or wherever they're going) in a more classical Twin Peaks world. It would certainly tie in the the Log Lady's talk of dreams and space flowing free.
 

CheesecakeRecipe

Stormy Grey
I wish it was just fetishization. This episode if you were a woman you were either murdered, assaulted, dumber than Dougie or arm candy for David Lynch's character. The guy is a lecherous, old slimeball up there with Frank Miller.

I won't go as far as to claim he's anywhere near the level of scumbag as Frank Miller, but this was the first episode of the new season that made me feel very uncomfortable in a way that isn't what I would describe as welcome or good. I can't help but think back to the scenes in the original show with Leo Johnson treating Shelly like she was less than human, only this ended up being a variety of male characters over the entire episode. Really feeling put off by how gross it was.

That said, the pacing for this episode was probably the snappiest yet. We're seeing the pieces finally begin to shift around in different conflicts that are headed for a collision, as well as getting some answers for things brought up or hinted at earlier in the season. Audrey is possibly confirmed as Richard's mother, Mr. C is confirmed as the millionaire behind the box experiment, the FBI knows Diane isn't what she seems, Chad's not just a dickbag, but he's Richard's dickbag on the inside, and Anthony's insurance claim meddling goes deeper than a personal 'skim off the top' scheme. Some of this probably won't matter for long time fans who desire more attention to the questions raised by the events of the past few episodes, but time will tell how it all comes together in the end.

I'm mostly curious about Gordon's vision of Laura and what exactly it was that he felt when Diane hugged him outside of the prison. What sort of supernatural boyscout plan does he have to get to the bottom of this new Cooper and his supporting network?

EDIT: Something that just hit me... and this is kind of a big relief for me, personally. Back when Bobby Briggs was revealed to be an officer with the Sheriff's department, there was a small part of me that doubted that he'd cleaned up his act that much. With everything he'd been involved in when he was younger, becoming an inside man at the police station would make for a perfect job that someone in the drug trade could use to their advantage. Every time he began to ham it up on screen, I doubted how genuine each expression was. Now that we know Chad's the inside man, it gives me hope that Bobby did indeed change course after the Good Major had his talk with his son back in Season 2. There's still time for Lynch to change that, of course, but I'll be happy if Bobby happened to reform himself in such a drastic way in the 25 years between seasons.
 
I enjoyed todays episode. There has to be some room to breathe and the next episode should be pretty huge.

I like the way music ends out each episode, personally.
 

Kadayi

Banned
I wish it was just fetishization. This episode if you were a woman you were either murdered, assaulted, dumber than Dougie or arm candy for David Lynch's character. The guy is a lecherous, old slimeball up there with Frank Miller.

If that's what you're seeing, then perhaps it's time to stop watching?
 
oh shit that was the singer in Mulholland Drive right? no wonder the voice was money, so operatic.

I felt like tearing up like I was one of the spectators at Silencio haha.
 
Random musings about Diane. I don't think she believes she's talking to BadCoop at all, but Jefferies. And I think Ray, Diane and Jefferies are involved with the (for want of a better term) MIB referenced in Secret History that Doug Milford was part of.
 

g11

Member
As a standalone episode I can see why people would find that one weak even though it still had some memorable bits. When watched properly sandwiched between the rest of the season it'll probably come across much better (depending on how the next episodes turn out). That's to be expected of a project that's made as an eighteen hour movie while being treated as a conventional television show. Remember though, you've got to set up the pins before you knock them down. It's easy to get impatient week to week though.

I'm still loving it just as much as I did from episode one, but I'm still having a problem of becoming overly anxious while I watch. It seems that I can't stop myself from checking the clock a couple times while viewing every week. It's not because I'm bored or think the show is too slow, but it's more of me dreading the episode ending and I feel like it's constantly on a timer. I imagine this will get worse for me the closer we get to the end of the season. I don't want Twin Peaks to end.

Yeah, I know, it's ridiculous.

I found myself doing the same early on but after about episode 3 I physically stop myself from checking anymore. That said, the musical numbers at the Bang Bang Bar are bittersweet for me because I know that means the episode is over, with the exception of Episode 8.
 

CheesecakeRecipe

Stormy Grey
Oh! I did get pretty emotional seeing Catherine Coulson again. I'm so grateful for her dedication to the show and her character. There were many actors who passed since they began shooting for the season, but she's visibly in pain with each appearance and it speaks so highly of her ability to push through that. I didn't expect us to see her again after her previous call with Hawk, either.

Not enough thanks in the world. May she, as well as the others who passed during or shortly after filming, rest in peace, knowing this would be their final performances.
 
I couldn't believe how in shape coop is, he looks even better than he did 25 years ago. I feel bad for any Assassin that comes after him because he's going to kick their ass.
 

Not

Banned
OK, one thing I can't handle is all the fucking violence against women in this season so far

With the opening scene this episode, it now feels more than gratuitous

I get that the premise of the whole show is essentially "women get hurt and weird things happen" but still, ugh. Hope more surreal stuff is on the way.

Also, I hope David Lynch and Mark Frost don't think anyone my age still says "chickenshit"
 

Kalor

Member
That was an average episode. They've connected all the different plot lines now but nothing of note really happened. Stuff has to pick up next week because there aren't that many episodes left now.

At least this episode gave us some good Dougie scenes.
 
I don't know...
I like this show. I love David Lynch and Dougie is great but.....time runs out.
During the first few episodes I was like "No problem, there are enough episodes left. Dale and Twin Peaks both come back soon".
Now, after episode 10...I don't think so. The Twin Peaks feeling is still missing. There are scenes in Twin Peaks but it just doesn't feel like Twin Peaks at all. Dale Cooper is wasted since 10 episodes. I get what he's trying to do here but it's not entertaining anymore. It was fun for a couple of episodes.
Now it seems like Lynch is just trolling.
I consider both first two seasons to be far superior than season three. This is not what I expected after watching the cliffhanger of season 2 (during the last 10-20 years). And it doesn't make any sense to me + I don't think this is what Lynch and Frost had in mind for season 3 during the early 90's.
It's a completely different show.
 

120v

Member
i'm really digging season 3, or 'the return', or whatever you call it. it's some of the best TV i've ever seen... i really don't care about the "where's coop???" stuff because the whole premise is obvs about finding his way back, just like how the old show was about who killed laura palmer. it's just not something to be resolved in one fell swoop

that said i'm getting nervous... there's just waaay too many moving pieces here. i don't expect each and every story arc to get wrapped up in a nice little bow (this is lynch after all) but even at seven hours its going to be quite to feat to pull off
 
least favorite episode so far. great music number though

I guess I'm way off base with most! One of my favourite episodes so far... It had everything I want from this show. Harrowing scenes of pure shocking evil, classic Dougie moments, Albert dating, log lady, weird Luara apparition, best music so far. Show flips moods on a dime and it's this spontaneity I crave.

I'm actually really surprised people are down on it. I came in here expecting praise lol.
 
I don't get the frustration with Dougie not being Cooper yet. I knew since it was called The Return it wouldn't happen until the end.

None of you guys read The Odyssey?

lol dude doesn't get home in the middle of the story lmfao
 
Which was clear from episode 1, anyone thinking 'this is going to turn into classic twin peaks any time now!' has been kidding themselves.

That doesn't make it any better though. The criticism is still justified. It's called TWIN PEAKS season 3.
The original Twin Peaks feeling is gone. And it's not coming back it seems. This feels more like a spiritual successor.
 
Just the seven minutes for a musical number this week then. I don't care how good or crap it is, I've tuned into Twin Peaks not Top of the fucking Pops.

The guy married to Shelly's daughter is real good at playing little shits isn't he. Just watched Get Out last night and he's exactly the same.
 
That doesn't make it any better though. The criticism is still justified. It's called TWIN PEAKS season 3.
The original Twin Peaks feeling is gone. And it's not coming back it seems.

It's actually called "Twin Peaks: The Return" which makes the fact that aligns with The Odyssey structurally make perfect sense. You won't get "your" Twin Peaks until the very end.
 

Cheebo

Banned
That doesn't make it any better though. The criticism is still justified. It's called TWIN PEAKS season 3.
The original Twin Peaks feeling is gone. And it's not coming back it seems. This feels more like a spiritual successor.
Fire Walk With was original Twin Peaks and this feels A LOT like that.

Also this isn't called Twin Peaks Season 3. Its officially called Twin Peaks: The Return. It's not a third season.

Expecting it to feel like a early 90s network tv show is absurd. Just look how different it felt in FWWM one year after the show ended when it was no longer constrained by network TV and could be unfiltered Lynch.
 
That doesn't make it any better though. The criticism is still justified. It's called TWIN PEAKS season 3.
The original Twin Peaks feeling is gone. And it's not coming back it seems. This feels more like a spiritual successor.

I actually got a lot of Twin Peaks vibes in this episode. The characters, the interactions etc. Obviously it's different, but I can see plenty of connections to the types of people that inhabit the Twin Peaks world.
 

yepyepyep

Member
Interesting that a lot of people didn't like it. Last weeks episode I was a bit ho hum about but I felt this one was really good. Big contrast between silly humour and disturbing scenes of violence.
 
Richard Horne getting murdered will be as satisfying as some GOT characters getting theirs eventually. Dude is probably one of the biggest pieces of shit I've seen on TV.
Also fuck Chad too. I bet that asshole is going to get his hands dirty and kill someone we like a at the sheriff's department.
 
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