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Final Fantasy XIV: Stormblood |OT| Y'all Need to Calm Down

Robin64

Member
if you are referring to my pics they where taken at 4k resolution and then downsampled to 1080.

I might have a go at running the game like that. It sucks that this engine doesn't really "do" AA, even when trying to force it from outside the game.
 

Thorgal

Member
I might have a go at running the game like that. It sucks that this engine doesn't really "do" AA, even when trying to force it from outside the game.

to be clear i do not play the game at that res ( even though my 980 ti is more then capable for it ) because in the past certain parts of the ui where to small for my liking even at max size and i also like the game running at 144 fps .
 

Wagram

Member
XIVdb is down so I used Garlond Tools. I don't think i've ever been to a website with such a shitty over-cluttered and crowded UI. Downright awful.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
I might have a go at running the game like that. It sucks that this engine doesn't really "do" AA, even when trying to force it from outside the game.

The only decent real-time option is running in DX9 mode with SGSSAA. That'll net you near 4K IQ with twice the performance and none of the side effects (e.g. interface scaling). Sadly though, DX11 has better lighting and parallax mapping from what I've seen so it's a tough call which is the best way to play.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
odv1s down :D

3.8k sustained DPS, trying to push 4k sustained.

For the gosupro SAMs here, a few questions.

Crit > DH or DH > Crit?
Refresh Higanbana at <15 or spend Sen on Midare then apply new Higanbana?
 

Apoptomon

Member
People talking bout S-Links, they need to bring back a quest line similar to the delivery moogle in ARR. It really fleshed out some side characters
Yeah, I liked the Moogle post quests for that reason. Last time it included the innkeepers and the Highbridge FATE crew. Who would you want this time, HW people?
perhaps thirsty types might get a chance to find out just how spiky Alaimbert's butt is, or handle Aymeric's Package
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odv1s down :D

3.8k sustained DPS, trying to push 4k sustained.

For the gosupro SAMs here, a few questions.

Crit > DH or DH > Crit?
Refresh Higanbana at <15 or spend Sen on Midare then apply new Higanbana?
SS > Dhit > Det > Crit

We don't have exact stat values SS might go down in raid scenarios but that's the confirmed stat priority you're looking at
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
SS > Dhit > Det > Crit

We don't have exact stat values SS might go down in raid scenarios but that's the confirmed stat priority you're looking at

The hell, when did SS go up for SAM??

I am being trolled :<
 

scy

Member
Crit > DH or DH > Crit?
Refresh Higanbana at <15 or spend Sen on Midare then apply new Higanbana??

Neither; DH > Det > Crit.

If you're sitting at banana at 15s and facing that choice, shouldn't Hagakure be coming up soon enough for a 3 Sen Hagakure into refresh. Otherwise, generally it's <10s remaining then refresh otherwise get it next cycle.

The hell, when did SS go up for SAM??

It didn't. It has good returns per point (the AA/DoT portion is literally Det, for instance) in a vacuum but that's not the same as it being good / desirable for all jobs as of yet.

Edit: To add to it, SSPD's value is largely based on raw uptime on targets and any amount of GCD sitting there unused is basically losing value. SAM is also in this weird spot of the 965 SSPD tier makes Sen generation and Hagakure cooldown desynced a bit in the 1 Sen opener and pushes you to use the 3 Sen opener. Most the delay in this response was trying to figure out what's the next tier it goes silly on GCD, Sen, Cooldown, etc. alignment but I stopped mathing to just post.
 

Kyzer

Banned
I play on a gtx 980, gonna start playing at 1440p + gsync, will it be enough? also, if I ever wanted to do 4k would it be better to grab another 980 and SLI it or just sell it and buy a different card?
 

studyguy

Member
You can use <se.#> in party chat to play different sound effects. People put them in macros to make a noise to draw your attention to something.

<se.6> is bongos and the best sound effect.

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When the whole party <se.6>
DOOT DOOT DOOT! DOOT DOOT DO!DOOT DO!DO!DoDoDoDoDDDD
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Neither; DH > Det > Crit.Most the delay in this response was trying to figure out what's the next tier it goes silly on GCD, Sen, Cooldown, etc. alignment but I stopped mathing to just post.

So SS > Dhit > Det > Crit like Stone Ocean said, but SS has a breakpoint at 965? Mostly i just want to figure out melds. I'm at:

Crit: 1311
Det: 1119
Dhit: 1310
SS: 1196

ilvl 316, not sure where to go or which upgrades to aim for.

Something like this? http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/11O1G

320-330 because I don't think I'm clear O3S and O4S anytime soon.
 

Squishy3

Member
Dervy ;.;

Pls fix DRG SE so he can come back.
Playing it in current endgame content I'm enjoying it more, and stuff like the Dragon Sight change is super welcome. It feels largely awful to play in dungeons though, fuck that noise. Just doing that on my Dark Knight instead. It's not as bad off as say, MCH.

Beat O1S, definitely a better fight than A9S.
 

scy

Member
So SS > Dhit > Det > Crit like Stone Ocean said, but SS has a breakpoint at 965? Mostly i just want to figure out melds. I'm at:

Crit: 1311
Det: 1119
Dhit: 1310
SS: 1196

ilvl 316, not sure where to go or which upgrades to aim for.

It's the awkward part of it being hard to say since real world use of SSPD is always down to actually gaining GCDs; rotational impact of SSPD is pretty much dependent on actually generating bonus hits as the DoT/AA scaling makes it 'at best' Det. There's also the whole >965 SSPD ends up with the 1 Sen opener eating a forced clip to re-align Hagakure so you lose DPS due to the SSPD and have to switch openers to one that spikes differently (and also has a worse double weave, I guess).

Meld DH > Det > Crit, overcapping a stat even by 1 isn't worth it (e.g., +39 DH means you should've +40 Det or Crit instead).
Edit: And adjust SSPD as necessary if it gains you an SSPD tier if you really are after that.

I'm literally parroting Dervy's words lol these are the finished stat weight priorities in a vaccuum

Dervy's words are that SSPD = DH in a vacuum / dummy scenario; anything that eats uptime at a point starts to decay the actual advantage of SSPD (albeit, to a point a the delay has to actual cost a GCD tiering). Unless there was another thing at some point besides the graph he linked before? Which was meant specifically to not be used in cases like this. The same for this document; these are not weights, these are not for basing gearing decisions, these are for basing sims and calculations. The whole SS=DH thing is also making for some super memey all-in gottagofast SAM talk going on which is making the Discord channel extra :|

For reference sake on melds, Dervy's Samurai if you just want to ape the melds.
 

Squishy3

Member
Remember, Heavensward took like nearly the entire expansion for stat weights to be unequivocally figured out in a practical sense as well. I think people actually cracked the XIV damage formula though, so it should be figured out sooner this time around. (At least, I remember seeing a post about it.)
 

Edzi

Member
How are you supposed to get 7 fell cleaves out? Feels like berserk ends before you can gain enough meter back for the seventh.
 

B.K.

Member
I was really hoping to clear V1S tonight, but I had a pretty shitty day at work today. I got stung five or six times (I'm not really sure how many. I know five, but I may have got stung a sixth time on my face. My jaw felt weird for a while) today buy yellowjackets. They got me twice on my right hand and I can't close it enough right now to hold a controller. Maybe tomorrow night.
 

iammeiam

Member
Remember, Heavensward took like nearly the entire expansion for stat weights to be unequivocally figured out in a practical sense as well.

That's not really accurate; stat weights aren't static and literally change with gear. Every time we got a new tier, we got a new set of stat weights because the new secondary caps moved stuff around (this is why Crit always starts the expansion much weaker than it ends it; it's not that we're figuring things out better later, it's that it's a moving target.) Like, stat weights are always rough approximations; there's some crazy chart out there of the numbers they have right now and literally any meld in any slot changes the value of all secondaries. We did end up never getting MCH numbers, mostly because nobody cared about MCH, less that it was hard to figure out.

The most obvious thing in HW was how hilarious Crit got on bard by the end. It was always good for bard, but by the end of HW it had scaled to like .4 DEX. Not because the prior numbers were inaccurate or wrong, but because by 3.4 the availability of crit made stacking it absolutely insane. Also them flipping tank stats upside down mid-expansion was hilarious and led to all of their secondaries being super valuable. Except parry.

Which is mostly relevant because the numbers change all the time even if we know them 100% certain up front. The damage formula they figured out was helpful, but my understanding is the scope of the changes (base Crit is different now, the SS impact on Autoattack damage is new, Tenacity is new, DHit is all new) means they're still doing a ton of changes and all the data we get back is kind of shaky because we now have two more stats that contribute to damage replacing the non-damage-impacting Parry and Accuracy, meaning there's now two more freeroam options.
 
Playing through Stormblood. Yanxia's music is amazing and Azim is just as good.

Trying to level both MNK and NIN as I go, to fit in with the story, but PVP and POTD are so dull
 
Dervy's words are that SSPD = DH in a vacuum / dummy scenario; anything that eats uptime at a point starts to decay the actual advantage of SSPD (albeit, to a point a the delay has to actual cost a GCD tiering). Unless there was another thing at some point besides the graph he linked before? Which was meant specifically to not be used in cases like this. The same for this document; these are not weights, these are not for basing gearing decisions, these are for basing sims and calculations. The whole SS=DH thing is also making for some super memey all-in gottagofast SAM talk going on which is making the Discord channel extra :|

For reference sake on melds, Dervy's Samurai if you just want to ape the melds.
A full SS SAMic the Hedgehog build sounds hilarious
 
Speaking of which, is there amy consensus on WHM stats so far? The i340 gear is basically polar opposites all around so trying to figure my progression out is frying my brain because I really really want to max out Det
 

Astral

Member
I got my character back after I called customer support. Now I don't remember how to play AT ALL. How do I use a WHM? All my skills aren't hotkeyed anymore so I can't even use that to refresh my memory. What should I have on rotation? I see I got some cross class abilities like Swiftcast and Eye for an Eye in here too.

EDIT: Um where the fuck are my Stoneskin and Shroud of Saints?
 

Edzi

Member
So is there a rough guide to leveling all the crafting and gathering jobs? Went ahead and unlocked them all since I'll probably slowly start messing with them as I run out of end game content.

I don't think you are supposed to do 7.

I think it's 6 and Upheaval or something like that.

Can't remember.

Oh, that makes more sense. I heard people saying 7 was possible.
 

Zomba13

Member
I got my character back after I called customer support. Now I don't remember how to play AT ALL. How do I use a WHM? All my skills aren't hotkeyed anymore so I can't even use that to refresh my memory. What should I have on rotation? I see I got some cross class abilities like Swiftcast and Eye for an Eye in here too.

EDIT: Um where the fuck are my Stoneskin and Shroud of Saints?

They are dead.
 
I got my character back after I called customer support. Now I don't remember how to play AT ALL. How do I use a WHM? All my skills aren't hotkeyed anymore so I can't even use that to refresh my memory. What should I have on rotation? I see I got some cross class abilities like Swiftcast and Eye for an Eye in here too.

EDIT: Um where the fuck are my Stoneskin and Shroud of Saints?

Shroud of Saints is now Lucid Dreaming and a Role Skill

RIP Stoneskin :( (but it got replaced by Divine Benison which is cool)

WHM is largely the same, though Aero 1 and 2 are now the same skill and it's just Aero 2 and 3 for DoTs and Stone 4 for DPS/Holy and Assize for AoE (Fluid Aura doesn't DPS anymore).

Swiftcast, Largesse, Lucid Dreaming, Esuna, and Protect are the mandatory 5 role skills (though Rescue is super fun/dumb to use).
 

Astral

Member
They are dead.

Shroud of Saints is now Lucid Dreaming and a Role Skill

RIP Stoneskin :( (but it got replaced by Divine Benison which is cool)

WHM is largely the same, though Aero 1 and 2 are now the same skill and it's just Aero 2 and 3 for DoTs and Stone 4 for DPS/Holy and Assize for AoE (Fluid Aura doesn't DPS anymore).

Swiftcast, Largesse, Lucid Dreaming, Esuna, and Protect are the mandatory 5 role skills (though Rescue is super fun/dumb to use).

Damn and I loved Stoneskin. Thanks for the role skills suggestion. I pretty much have to relearn how to use my class. I have a feeling I'm gonna be pretty terrible in dungeons until I get the hang of things again.
 

darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
Just got to the credits at the end of ARR (holy shit this has to be LONGEST credits scene ever??? i should probably skip this) and holy fuck the last few hours have been amazing

so many cutscenes... like hours worth. easily the best final fantasy movie ever made lol

Really glad I got into this game. Its been like the only thing I've played the last month. Its great.
 
Speaking of, I just tried to learn how to play WHM on a controller in the level 63 dungeon. As you might imagine, that was a really dumb idea. Miraculously, nobody died lol. Targeting party members just feels super clunky compared to just tapping the corresponding F key on a keyboard.
 
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