Alex_Mexico
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I too get all my facts and talking points from videogames instead of real world usage
It's merely an example, and a fitting one at that for NeoGAF's gaming section.
That doesn't make my statement less right.
I too get all my facts and talking points from videogames instead of real world usage
Well to be more precise it was a solution of water, ice, and Ammonium Chloride. Which is not really comparable with any in any normal situation. Most fresh water will freeze at 0ºC, sea water freezes at -2ºC. (Or 100ºC when Celsius was alive as the scale was in reverse)
I don't believe the costs would be so big. Perhaps with traffic signs, but nowadays everything works with computers, so just removing the conversion from C to F and from metric to imperial on electronic stuff should be piece of cake.
Might be worth wondering why a Japanese game should "translate" into imperial at all then.
So your problem is you hate change. Gotcha.
Then they should just make everything metric in most games.I very much wonder if we'd even have this thread. This is the second, "I can't deal with the imperial system," thread I've seen, but I'm not sure I've ever seen the reverse.
So your problem is you hate change. Gotcha.
Then they should just make everything metric in most games.
So your problem is you hate change. Gotcha.
hmmm... I wonder why?
Notice how much of US industry, military, government, and science is switching to metric. It's a much cheaper solution. It allows you to sell things to a wider market, means you streamline production. NATO coalitions are more functional with the 5.56mm round and it just makes more sense all round.I could give a fuck less, personally I have to work with both systems (and buy both sets of tools).
I'm pretty sure Americans would love to see higher numbers in their speedometers and lower numbers on their scales.
Also you continue to ignore that decimals do in fact exist.
By your claim Fahrenheit is 2x more granular. If you add a decimal point you are 10x more granular with Celsius. You say that for any practical purpose Fahrenheit is all you need. Why do you need more than 1dp? In fact why would you need Fahrenheit dps at all. You can have as much granularity as you need in either system. That's not an argument for or against.TEST: adds set number decimals to both Scales,
RESULT: Granularity of Fahrenheit in normal environmental conditions remains better than that of Celsius.
Notice how much of US industry, military, government, and science is switching to metric. It's a much cheaper solution. It allows you to sell things to a wider market, means you streamline production. NATO coalitions are more functional with the 5.56mm round and it just makes more sense all round.
Of course change takes time especially when so much of the US is optimised around imperial, older fittings parts etc. Over time that doesn't matter though.
I'm cool with it. It's happening eventually. Globalisation will kill languages. Dialects and Languages are a product of isolation. Contact leads to unification.If you want to save money and time the top priority should be the reduction of the number of number of languages spoken and read.
Take a look at any international packaging, the conversion in weight or volume isn't the biggest fish to fry.
Are you ready to tell people that removing their language would save both time and money?
Also not sure that the US general gov't even has the power to change the standard for anything that is not federally funded (i.e. interstates would be but not other state roads.) So the change would need to be implemented separately in each US state and some would be much more apt to eat the cost (which again provides little return) than others.
Probably why nobody has tried to tackle it.
If you want to save money and time the top priority should be the reduction of the number of number of languages spoken and read.
By your claim Fahrenheit is 2x more granular. If you add a decimal point you are 10x more granular with Celsius. You say that for any practical purpose Fahrenheit is all you need. Why do you need more than 1dp? In fact why would you need Fahrenheit dps at all. You can have as much granularity as you need in either system. That's not an argument for or against.
Except many places in the states get colder than 0 F yearly and every degree is not equal.The Fahrenheit scale, like the Celsius scale has been tweaked over the years to better fit the environments in which they're used.
My local climate (Midwestern USA) uses the entire 0 -100 F scale on a yearly basis (with lows diving slightly lower than 0 and highs breaking the 100 mark on occasion ) changing that to -18C to 38 would offer no benefit (and would simply reduce the granularity) and all the Winter enthusiasts would have to come up with a new FDD calculator before driving their cars out on the lakes.
I know how many times my wife would burn the house down if I swapped the oven dials to Celsius from Fahrenheit (as I've considered this as an April fools day joke for years).
1 too many.
The conversion wouldn't be hard to understand; that wasn't the point.
But the costs would be huge! Ever jug of milk, every can of soda, every box of cereal, every traffic sign, every gas pump... The list goes on. All of it would change. And that's just labeling. You're probably not going to just slap a label on a container of milk containing 3.785 liters of milk; you're probably going to make it a package with a more rounded number. So is all the packing going to need to be redone? The factory lines? And then we get to the psychological aspect of, "What is a liter of gas worth?"
And we could do all that. It could all happen, even if some of it would take time and great cost.
But why? What's the benefit? To the people making the change? To the world at large?
How about just changing the palette in new cars, giving priority to km/h instead of mph, and totally removing the mph from even newer cars after a couple of years?
Also not sure that the US general gov't even has the power to change the standard for anything that is not federally funded (i.e. interstates would be but not other state roads.) So the change would need to be implemented separately in each US state and some would be much more apt to eat the cost (which again provides little return) than others.
Probably why nobody has tried to tackle it.
Lol dude. A milk pack already in a supermarket manufactured before the adaptation starts would maintain the same unit as before, bringing that pack to the factory just to change it does not make any sense. It would only be applied to milk boxes that are going to be manufactured once the new measurement system is on the road. Same with soda and Doritos packs.
And you really think there would be written "3.785 liters of milk"? Why not 3.78 or 3.79? And that wouldn't make people go bananas. The size of the box is the same.
Less than 20 years ago, Euro became the official money in many European countries. Everyone had to stop thinking in the monetary unit in their own country, and start thinking in euros. You could see everywhere the price in the old monetary unit and euros, until you could only use euros. Only elders still need to translate euros to the old monetary systems to have references of prices, but even people in their 60s right now can perfectl live with the new monetary unit.
The adapting process was done well. If we could survive to that, you all can change from imperial to metric.
And some labels in milk packs already have metric units there:
They just need to remove the "1 GAL" from the template they use to print the labels. It just takes one fucking minute to do it.
For traffic signs, they could write the two units so that people get used to the differences between both. Many speedometers already have metrics specified as well:
How about just changing the palette in new cars, giving priority to km/h instead of mph, and totally removing the mph from even newer cars after a couple of years?
It would probably be more expensive than I imagine, but just using common sense you can avoid the astronomic costs you are telling me.
Best of all, new generations will grow up with a measurement unit everyone in the rest of the world uses. And they wouldn't have any problems when adapting to another metric just because their country was using old and outdated units that made no sense.
You gain 10x the granularity at the cost of an additional significant figure. That's a 50% increase in the amount of digits needed to convey information.By your claim Fahrenheit is 2x more granular. If you add a decimal point you are 10x more granular with Celsius. You say that for any practical purpose Fahrenheit is all you need. Why do you need more than 1dp? In fact why would you need Fahrenheit dps at all. You can have as much granularity as you need in either system. That's not an argument for or against.
What is the benefit of spending hundreds of millions (most likely billions) in changing mile markers, recreating road signs, passing local legislation across 50 states and numerous municipalities, etc etc etc just so finally we can feel secure in knowing the world isn't secretly poking fun.
Lol dude. A milk pack already in a supermarket manufactured before the adaptation starts would maintain the same unit as before, bringing that pack to the factory just to change it does not make any sense. It would only be applied to milk boxes that are going to be manufactured once the new measurement system is on the road. Same with soda and Doritos packs.
you really think there would be written "3.785 liters of milk"? Why not 3.78 or 3.79? And that wouldn't make people go bananas. The size of the box is the same.
Less than 20 years ago, Euro became the official money in many European countries. Everyone had to stop thinking in the monetary unit in their own country, and start thinking in euros. You could see everywhere the price in the old monetary unit and euros, until you could only use euros. Only elders still need to translate euros to the old monetary systems to have references of prices, but even people in their 60s right now can perfectl live with the new monetary unit.
The adapting process was done well. If we could survive to that, you all can change from imperial to metric.
Do schools in the US teach both?
Do schools in the US teach both?
You gain 10x the granularity at the cost of an additional significant figure. That's a 50% increase in the amount of digits needed to convey information.
Weather broadcasts in metric countries quite often give temperatures in measures of either .0 or .5. What say you to the proposition that we come up with a derived temperature unit that's just Celsius x 2? That way you gain the primary benefits of the Fahrenheit scale - being able to express common Earth temperature ranges using just two significant figures where each pip is still perceptible by our human senses - while still maintaining good compatibility with SI (2 is a factor of 10 after all)
Well, it's all the British Empire's fault. They started us on the path of measurements and now their descendants stuck dealing with the monster their ancestors created.
As for games, I'm fine with it being optional. Either way, to me it's just numbers counting down or going up.
That doesn't make much sense. First of all the decimal is not really costly. As a measure. Second of all you want just one system globally if you can help it. Adding one just for weather is needless expenditure.You gain 10x the granularity at the cost of an additional significant figure. That's a 50% increase in the amount of digits needed to convey information.
Weather broadcasts in metric countries quite often give temperatures in measures of either .0 or .5. What say you to the proposition that we come up with a derived temperature unit that's just Celsius x 2? That way you gain the primary benefits of the Fahrenheit scale - being able to express common Earth temperature ranges using just two significant figures where each pip is still perceptible by our human senses - while still maintaining good compatibility with SI (2 is a factor of 10 after all)
We used to call our taps Faucets too, but like our changing measurements system, we don't anymore A few other words too I think that we invented but don't use anymore hah!
Metric is so backwards its weird.
Like how with temperature freezing in Fahrenheit is 32 degrees where as in Celcius its 0 degrees
Hope so.. me personally haven't had a game i couldn't change to metric hope that run keeps going 😊Joke post?
Yes, I want to play Madden with the metric system too.
In metric-using countries, temperature is already measured in at least two units (Kelvin and Celsius), pressure is measured in at least three (Pascal, torr, atm), energy has at least two units (Joule, calorie, electron-volt if you are me), I could go on.That doesn't make much sense. First of all the decimal is not really costly. As a measure. Second of all you want just one system globally if you can help it. Adding one just for weather is needless expenditure.
The point of standardising is to eliminate conversions where needed only one is used in any place.In metric-using countries, temperature is already measured in at least two units (Kelvin and Celsius), pressure is measured in at least three (Pascal, torr, atm), energy has at least two units (Joule, calorie, electron-volt if you are me), I could go on.
The benefits of the Fahrenheit system have been explained clearly in this thread. If you think those are just "needless expenditure", I have a feeling you only actually like metric for subjective, emotional reasons.
You can't eliminate conversions, only reduce the number of them. My life as an electrical engineer would be so much fucking easier if we used the CGS system instead of SI. I'd much rather work with derived units like angstrom and micron for length or electron-volt for energy. Because those units actually matter for me instead of giant metrics like meter or joule.The point of standardising is to eliminate conversions where needed only one is used in any place.
But we use arabic numbers , that's the main reason to use base 10 on most things.
edit: I mean, why would i even attempt to use hexadecimal or binari notation if i'm still reading the same 10 digits or adding letters to make them work, is just not practical unless you are trying to work around a limitation of a system.
To the post above me, who uses meters and joules on Electric Engineering tho? almost everything already is in units that make sense but are often defined on the SI.
Because ten is arbitrary as fuck. We may as well just use 8.
so you wanna use wich numbers? then you would have to stop using arabic numbers mate
Braille 0-7 works
Base-12so you wanna use wich numbers? then you would have to stop using arabic numbers mate