Charles Brandon
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It looks crazy in hindsight but pre-release the feeling was extremely negative
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Switch at 4.7 million | ARMS: 1.18 Million, Zelda: 3.92M, Mario Kart 3.54M
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It looks crazy in hindsight but pre-release the feeling was extremely negative
MetalliCabombination
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The only thing stopping me from selling my switch after xeno 2 is a bayo 2 port lol.
Only 22 million less than MK Wii
MetalliCabombination
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Eolz
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So basically above the X1, and close to PS4.
Impressive for a march launch and constant stock issues.
Hopefully will be better managed than the Wii on the long term, and hopefully 3rd parties will take it more seriously rather than doing shitty experiments like last time.
Immaculate
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Joelstinton14
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I don't think it was - the October Trailer was extremely well received, although their reveal in January went down like a wet fart.
I think the thing to remember is that gaming fans go way overboard with their analysis of what is happening. Especially here on GAF. Whilst it is fun to talk about everything - because hey, we're video games fans, we do tend to talk out of arses a lot.
If you look at nintendo's social media footprint and hands on reports, they were all extremely positive and they had a lot of momentum last year with various events - pokemon go, the switch reveal, Zelda at E3, at the olympics, Pokemon sun/moon, Nes mini. They really got themselves out there.
Misleading because seasonal effects are a thing.
SmokedMeat
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That's going to be a battle.
Psycho_Mantis
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PS4 - 7.5 million shipped by March 31st (146 days)
FingerBang
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Yeah, I mean, PS4 and Xbox One came out right before Christmas (but PS4 was supply constraint as well), I honestly don't think it's fair to compare them with the Switch.
I believe the Switch will easily arrive second by the end of the gen.
Great numbers!
Yeah because WiiU and GC launching in the holiday season has sold an incredible amount of consoles, like the xbox one right? /s
You can argue even that switch was launched WW in every country when PS4 and xbox one had a different release windows for a lot of countries. Just stop using the holiday season as an excuse for the PS4 success.
BudokaiMR2
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You seem like the type of guy who would walk around malls during Christmas yelling 'SANTA ISN'T REAL KIDDOS!"
OrangeGrayBlue
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Yeah, I mean, PS4 and Xbox One came out right before Christmas (but PS4 was supply constraint as well), I honestly don't think it's fair to compare them with the Switch.
I believe the Switch will easily arrive second by the end of the gen.
Great numbers!
Yeah, I think launch aligned numbers for each console's one-year mark will give a much more accurate idea of how the Switch stacks up. We have to wait until next March for that, of course, but until then no launch aligned comparisons are really useful.
Psycho_Mantis
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I mean 1st year for XB1 was respectable but then it started to slow down considerably.
OrangeGrayBlue
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Yeah, I think it's actually performing better than the original Splatoon thus far, although I'm not sure it will have the same legs. I think it'll probably settle around 2.25 million. By all means good enough for a sequel though, which is great.
It's really misleading to compare PS4 launch months to Switch's for 2 very large reasons.
1. PS4 launched in the holidays and the holidays retailers will buy more stock, this is why the Wii U launched and sold well during the holidays for instance. If Switch had launched in the holidays, Retailers would have ordered more Switch units, and Nintendo would have sold 4m+ in it's first month, even with the short supply, Switch would have started production earlier in the year to meet the higher demand of holiday orders, and the tech Switch uses comes from May 2015.
2. Both the PS4 and Switch were selling everything they were putting on shelves, so PS4 might have had even higher sales figures if they were producing enough, and Switch is obviously producing less than the demand of the market, which again would be even higher during the holiday season.
OrangeGrayBlue
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Right, I didn't mean to imply that after the first year we can extrapolate the next five, I'm just saying that comparing the systems on a 1st quarter to 1st quarter basis doesn't do much because two of them launched at the height of holiday season while the other launched in early March. In that sense, looking at one year launch-aligned is more useful because all three systems will have their launch + a holiday season at that point.
Charles Brandon
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Everyone remember this is only the 'soft' launch. It'll be relaunched in October. Maybe with a "holy trinity" bumper bundle of Zelda, Kart & Mario (probably not but what a bundle that would be).
OrangeGrayBlue
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It's not an excuse for PS4's success, the PS4 has continued to sell well every day since it launched, it's not because of the holidays that it is selling like it has, but obviously if it launched outside of the holidays, retailers would not have ordered as many PS4 units, and the supply constraint would hold PS4 sales below the 6m it had after 4 months, that is just a simple reality of retail. The reverse is just as true, even through Nintendo is selling every Switch device it puts on the shelves, there would have been a larger order for Switch devices had it launched in the holidays, allowing Nintendo to start production at an earlier time to meet the higher demand, thus having more than 4.7m sales after 4 months.
Psycho_Mantis
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PS4 and XB1 also had staggered launches unlike the SW.
don't get your hopes up. 3rd party publishers have proven to be quite 'derp' when it comes to nintendo consoles.
indies (for the most part) actually have a much better barometer of success, and seem to have a tighter grasp of what appeals to this psychographic.
for example, look at USF2. the only reason this game exists is because nintendo requested it, i believe.
what else has capcom got planned outside japan? nothing. what else do they have planned IN japan? just a port of a 3ds game that is an update of an even earlier version of the same game on the 3ds.
seriously, how difficult & cheap would it be to port the RE catalogue (outside of 7) to the switch, seeing as the majority of them already have resonance with the nintendo fanbase, and some of which were actually previous nintendo exclusives for some time.
rime & yooka laylee are bloody taking forever to come out on a platform that's perfect for their style, yet at this stage what's even the point of it now? they released on ps4/x1 long ago that they're likely on the exit of peoples awareness of them, yet they they weren't released 'too' far ago that awareness of these games can pick back up again for a resurgence.
then there's rayman legends. wtf is going on with this title. watch a 'rayman double pack' be announced for the ps4/x1 a few weeks after.
there are so many amazing 3rd party games, and if you want to play them, buy a ps4/x1. the only people you can actually rely on, on nintendo systems are nintendo themselves, and the partnerships they forge/team up with for exclusive developments.
Skyrim is a massive exception. this looks really great & it seems bethesda are making a real effort for it and they will likely be reward for their efforts... but c'mon guys. we've been through this song and dance for 3 generations now. nintendo can only do so much. 3rd parties have to take some of the blame at some stage, too. if fucking bethesda (a company that has been almost completely absent on nintendo systems to-date) is putting all the usual suspects to shame, then you really should stop and think "what the hell".
TheLegendaryN
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Considering the amount and scope of the released third-party games so far, I think 3.74m copies sold is a pretty good result (that is the total software sales 13.60m minus combined number of first-party games 9.86m).
SporeCrawler
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considering the launch date this is amazing
mk7 sold 8 million less than MK DS, which is not good, but not that disasterous
jts
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No one is making excuses for the PS4 but sales comparisons are made for comparable months and quarters. It's undeniable that every console sells better in the Holiday season, even for the Wii U.
Some of the holiday effect is countered by the fact that a console launch also has a big impact. But then again, the PS4 was supply constrained and the Switch is heavily supply constrained with major production issues, so every comparison is flawed from every possible angle. There's just extrapolation with a heavy dose of personal opinion.
All that can be said accurately is that both are a runway success.
Is it? I thought the Xbox Division is doing well, because of great SW sales but is having a decline in HW sales.
SlipperyFishes
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The page says SOLD not SHIPPED.
Like it exclusively calls out that word.
Top Selling Title Sales Units ( As of June 30 said:
Surely those would say shipped if they were not actually sold through?
it's always shipped in these reports
It's shipped (sold to retailers). Not sold-through to consumers.
That could be kinda misleading. I believe they report an increase in software sales for a quarter YOY, but that's not an increase in sales per user, but rather an increase in total software sales, which is a logical consequences of having more hardware out compared to one year ago. I don't believe they say that sales per user have increased.
Here's the citation:
Hardware is slowing down, and software sales aren't impressively up, suggesting that sales per user could very well be down. This doesn't sound like a very healthy ecosystem tbh.
Holy shit insane numbers. Especialy Zelda outselling Mario Kart, Zelda must be at like 5-5.5m now if you combine Wii U version sales wich probably means it did outsell Horizon.
Damn Nintendo is back to Slaying again with their IP's, i hope they take notes and have more first years stocked with their good IP's like this with future hardware. Awesome numbers.
Damn Nintendo is back to Slaying again with their IP's, i hope they take notes and have more first years stocked with their good IP's like this with future hardware. Awesome numbers.
iamaustrian
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I've good news: Super Sidekicks 2 should arrive soon on switch.
it's also only 9 bucks
Shipments.
Sammy Samusu
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#millionsonly
English for first three, no one knows FE yet.
iamaustrian
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I predict 5 millions+ for Prime 4. Mark my words.
Skyrim at least 2 millions
Skyrim at least 2 millions