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Anyone else think Star Wars fanatics that get upset by special editions are crazy?
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Dion Blaster
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I think the issue is that (to my knowledge) there is no way to buy the actual original version of the film.
This was the first thing that came to my mind
Although i find the hairy q-bert in that scene more disturbing.
Yup. I'm whatever on all other changes, but this is a big fucking no no. Completely takes me out of the moment.
Alexander DeLarge
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Yub Nub sucks, every other change is pretty dumb though and it's incredibly ironic how George Lucas ended up dramatically changing films (some of which weren't even his) despite his outspoken views against the alteration of films and the importance of creator's intent.
Strangelove77
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Hardcore Star Wars fans are a scary breed, though I agree with them on this one. The originals should be available.
Lord Fagan
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Wouldn't go so crazy if they weren't such dumbass changes.
Young ghost Anakin?
Prequel Jango dub on Boba Fett?
Greedo shooting first?
People aren't irritated because they fixed the spaceship special effects or the CGI establishing shots. That's fine, that's fixing what's broken. It's the stuff George Lucas tried to fix that wasn't broken that bothers us.
Young ghost Anakin?
Prequel Jango dub on Boba Fett?
Greedo shooting first?
People aren't irritated because they fixed the spaceship special effects or the CGI establishing shots. That's fine, that's fixing what's broken. It's the stuff George Lucas tried to fix that wasn't broken that bothers us.
George Oscar Bluth II
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AlexFlame116
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Yes. My only complaints are the unneeded CGI in Mos Eisley in A New Hope, Darth Vader's NOOOOOOO in Return of the Jedi, and there was one more but I forgot.
I'm perfectly okay with everything else.
BUT, they should have the option to choose between original release and updated release. That's something that I want to have.
I'm perfectly okay with everything else.
BUT, they should have the option to choose between original release and updated release. That's something that I want to have.
PHOENIXZERO
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Considering the refusal to put out a good remaster of the original trilogy without the alterations, not really since most of the changes were for the worst.
Most of the changes are good (effects fixes), some are very questionable (Greedo, Jedi Rocks, the pointless scenes at the end of ESB of Vader going back to his ship), the only one that actually makes me upset is Vader's "Nooooo" that got added to the RotJ Blu-Ray purely as one last "fuck you" to the fans.
Okay it was probably because of a desire to have the end of RotS "rhyme" with the end of RotJ but it's fucking awful and should be destroyed.
Okay it was probably because of a desire to have the end of RotS "rhyme" with the end of RotJ but it's fucking awful and should be destroyed.
Dion Blaster
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Also this is still hilarious
I can totally understand the sentiment of wanting to preserve the original form of an artwork, especially with something as huge of a cultural impact and revolutionary as Star Wars.
That said, I've never understood people bursting veins over the special editions either. There are some dumb decisions in there, yes, but not big enough get angry at someone whose first experience with the movies were those editions.
Because, quite frankly, those same people wouldn't have given two shits about it anyway.
That said, I've never understood people bursting veins over the special editions either. There are some dumb decisions in there, yes, but not big enough get angry at someone whose first experience with the movies were those editions.
Because, quite frankly, those same people wouldn't have given two shits about it anyway.
Changing them is fine, I guess. We just want the ones we grew up with.
Monocle
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Bad taste confirmed? The changes are legit terrible. They drastically interfere with the tone of the films. It's pretty easy to see why people get upset.
Will I have to shower though?
Star Trek thread is that way.
Sweet, I love cash. Never thought of that.
Will I have to shower though?
Whoooaaaa, sick bro. Like you bro? Show me your muscles bro.
Has that ever happened?
Also this is still hilarious
That whole scene cracks me up. If George Lucas was still remastering, he would continue adding Ronto's until there was nothing but Ronto's in the scene.
I actually like this one. It makes sense from a canon standpoint. The rest? Not so much.
I wrote about this and Harmy's despecialisation project. There are good reasons fans just want the original films without the extra gunk Lucas put over them in the special editions. Check out some of the changes in the clips and you'll see what I mean.
Dash_Riprock
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The problem isn't that Lucas changed them.
Its that Lucas changed and also REFUSES to release the original versions in any way save a half-assed laserdisc transfers over ten years ago.
If he did that, not one would care.
Its that Lucas changed and also REFUSES to release the original versions in any way save a half-assed laserdisc transfers over ten years ago.
If he did that, not one would care.
George Oscar Bluth II
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BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Nah. It turns something I'm fundamentally interested in (retro 70s/80s sci-fi) into something I'm not (a late 90s/2000s kids CGI cartoon).
Basically it takes something like Alien/Blade Runner and turns it into... a Star Wars prequel.
Basically it takes something like Alien/Blade Runner and turns it into... a Star Wars prequel.
Nah. A few are legit terrible, but I will never go back to transparent snowspeeder cockpits and boring closed-off Bespin. More of the changes are positive fixes than shitty content alterations. It's just the latter that stick out more.
AlexFlame116
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It happens all the time in the threads and places I've seen. All the "true fans" mock them for being too young.
Monocle
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OK but why don't you like that though? Is there any difference between good movies that work because they're well made and bad movies that don't work because they're full of lame crap and bad CG? Like honestly.
I can get behind number of the more inconspicuous Special Edition changes, but never the awful Blu-ray hitjob.
SonicMegaDrive
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I don't consider myself a Star Wars fan, however I do insist on watching the versions of the films that I grew up with whenever I feel the need to rekindle that feeling of nostalgia. The special editions were nice to see in theaters, but I have no desire to revisit them since they don't spark up those same sentiments.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Teach the controversy. Both sides.
After all these years I can't tell if the ewoks are the worst or the best.
Dion Blaster
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Why didn't they at least add in a non-evil looking version of Anakin into the ghost scene? That would have actually been a pretty cool change if it wasn't executed so poorly.
verboten84
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We have a thread discussing the coloring timing of the new release of Terminator 2, but Star Wars fans are out of control for not liking the special editions.
I'll never understand the double standard.
I'll never understand the double standard.
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This legitimately undermines so much of the scenes power it's baffling
Everything else is background fluff
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
That's Hayden trying to smile and coming off like like a creep.
TheTylerRob
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I dont understand the obsession with Star Wars at all.
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