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[Redshirt]

So I was base power 19 and it seemed like I got more XP on these power level 19 missions than I now do at 20 and 21.

Am I off or is this what the game is doing? If so, am I just to hang out at 19 for as long as possible until I have enough survivor XP to jump to whatever the next missions are? So weird!

Think so. Not sure of the exact math, but it feels like you're getting a bonus for each level you are below the mission level and a penalty for each level above.

The penalty eventually becomes so great that the mission XP is simply zero.

It sucks as you get higher because Play with Others will put you into missions/storm shield defenses where you can't earn Commander XP.

And the thought of nerfing myself for the XP has crossed my mind too, but I haven't tried it.

 

[UpDownLeftRight]

So I was base power 19 and it seemed like I got more XP on these power level 19 missions than I now do at 20 and 21.

Am I off or is this what the game is doing? If so, am I just to hang out at 19 for as long as possible until I have enough survivor XP to jump to whatever the next missions are? So weird!

It's likely due to mission type. Some types pay more than others. You will always get more so for higher difficulty missions.

 

[mas8705]

I'd like to think that progression can work in a variety of ways in Fortnite. One part for the story, another part for the XP you earn for skills and the final part being the leveling of heroes, weapons and traps.

Honestly, this is why I am having no problems with Fortnite since it feels like if you can't progress in one way, you can do the other two in order to help you proceed further. My only concern is just cases where if you are about to do a storm defense, you try and call out for help, but no one responds. Don't want to think that I may have to ask for help on forums and message boards, but it feels like it might come down to that soon. At least for times I'm working on the bases, I can do the missions to power up weapons and heroes and get supplies (which is rather more generous than I've noticed thus far).

 

[Shredderi]

I wonder if I'm doing something wrong with the game. I'm seemingly stuck at power level 19. It seems like it takes at least three days to move up one power level. I'm still quite a low power level, aren't I? Is it supposed to be this slow? I have all the squad members filled (that can be filled right now) and I've tried to match the personality types etc. etc.

 

[LycanXIII]

I wonder if I'm doing something wrong with the game. I'm seemingly stuck at power level 19. It seems like it takes at least three days to move up one power level. I'm still quite a low power level, aren't I? Is it supposed to be this slow? I have all the squad members filled (that can be filled right now) and I've tried to match the personality types etc. etc.

You've just got to grind XP to level them up. That's where I'm stuck at too.

 

[Shredderi]

You've just got to grind XP to level them up. That's where I'm stuck at too.

Level up the survivors? Evolving anything takes way too much drop of rains. Every single evolve would take almost everything I have on me at any given time -_-

 

[Redshirt]

Level up the survivors? Evolving anything takes way too much drop of rains. Every single evolve would take almost everything I have on me at any given time -_-

Yeah. Start with the leaders imo. You might be sitting on a bunch of Survivor XP.

I'd like to think that progression can work in a variety of ways in Fortnite. One part for the story, another part for the XP you earn for skills and the final part being the leveling of heroes, weapons and traps.

Outside of the three timed missions, the amounts of Hero XP, Survivor XP, drops of rain and so forth rewarded are pretty small. The grind doesn't feel particularly rewarding.

I love the game, but I think if I get to a point where that's all that's left, I'll probably take a break until Epic adjusts it.

 

[Shredderi]

Yeah. Start with the leaders imo. You might be sitting on a bunch of Survivor XP.



Outside of the three timed missions, the amounts of Hero XP, Survivor XP, drops of rain and so forth rewarded are pretty small. The grind doesn't feel particularly rewarding.

I love the game, but I think if I get to a point where that's all that's left, I'll probably take a break until Epic adjusts it.

Yeah I leveled my leaders and some other survivors a lot already :/ I feel like the power level leveling is already crawling and it's way too soon for that.

And as to your other point, fully agreed. The grind is actually super unrewarding. You do a mission that takes closer to 30 minutes and you get what, 950 hero xp and 3 drops of rain? Dudes, we paid for this game. I know the that it will end up being F2P but come the fuck on there was a price tag slapped on this so you can definitely afford to give reward big enough for my time. I can kind of already see the end for myself. That point where I know it will become too much of an unrewarding grind for me to waste time on the game anymore since the core gameplay loop will remain the same. I give it week or 2 max for myself if nothing changes.

 

[Vic_Viper]

What do I do with all the crafting materials taking up all of my inventory space? Aside from crafting Traps and Weapons, what are they even for lol! How is there not a craftable chest yet for you to store this crap in at your Stormshield Base?

About to do Pankerton SSD 2 but I have no idea where the mobs will spawn lol. It makes creating your defenses kinda of a pain in the ass. Plus the two amplifiers are stationed right up against the barrier so I can only build inward instead of out which kinda limits what I can do.

 

[Aselith]

What do I do with all the crafting materials taking up all of my inventory space? Aside from crafting Traps and Weapons, what are they even for lol! How is there not a craftable chest yet for you to store this crap in at your Stormshield Base?

About to do Pankerton SSD 2 but I have no idea where the mobs will spawn lol. It makes creating your defenses kinda of a pain in the ass. Plus the two amplifiers are stationed right up against the barrier so I can only build inward instead of out which kinda limits what I can do.

Throw them on the ground

 

[UpDownLeftRight]

Yeah I leveled my leaders and some other survivors a lot already :/ I feel like the power level leveling is already crawling and it's way too soon for that.

And as to your other point, fully agreed. The grind is actually super unrewarding. You do a mission that takes closer to 30 minutes and you get what, 950 hero xp and 3 drops of rain? Dudes, we paid for this game. I know the that it will end up being F2P but come the fuck on there was a price tag slapped on this so you can definitely afford to give reward big enough for my time. I can kind of already see the end for myself. That point where I know it will become too much of an unrewarding grind for me to waste time on the game anymore since the core gameplay loop will remain the same. I give it week or 2 max for myself if nothing changes.

The grind really started to set in for me around the end of Plankerton to the point that I'm just doing a couple found a day. I recently started Black Desert since I needed something else to play. The grind is better in that, an MMO. That's really saying something.

I also remember Warframe being a lot fairer on the player.

 

[GraveRobberX]

Do Rescue Survivor Mission, saved all as the icon pops

Get to score screen, Chest being shown, game crashes... Fuck my life

 

[Papercuts]

Have they fixed the input latency bug on PS4 yet? Haven't really played since the day the patch hit since I could feel that really badly.

 

[Geneijin]

Posting this since me and a gaffer just found out about this disappointingly:

8.3.2017
EA PATCH NOTES 1.4
By The Fortnite Team

Xbox
Fixed a rare audio crash on Xbox One.
Per policy discussion with Microsoft, removed ability for PC friends to join players on Xbox One

- https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/en-US/news/ea-patch-notes-1-4

PC can't cross play with Xbox players anymore as of now.

 

[Tecnniqe]

Posting this since me and a gaffer just found out about this disappointingly:


PC can't cross play with Xbox players anymore as of now.

Wait what

 

[Vic_Viper]

Throw them on the ground

Will crafting materials disappear if you throw them on the ground and leave your Base?

 

[darkwing]

Will crafting materials disappear if you throw them on the ground and leave your Base?

yes

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

Is main power progress pretty much tied to survivors? I just evolved a hero from 2 stars to 3 and the meter didn't budge at all which is really freaking dumb cause survivors (great ones) are rng which means main progress is essentially rng.

 

[Eric WK]

Is main power progress pretty much tied to survivors? I just evolved a hero from 2 stars to 3 and the meter didn't budge at all which is really freaking dumb cause survivors (great ones) are rng which means main progress is essentially rng.

Power is strictly based on your FORT stats, which isn't affected by Hero level.

So yes, everything you said is true.

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

Power is strictly based on your FORT stats, which isn't affected by Hero level.

So yes, everything you said is true.

Thanks for the reply, dear God this reminds me of trying to raise light level year 1 in Destiny. Totally rng, not doing it again, thank god this was gifted to me from a friend cause this shit isnt worth $40.

 

[Redshirt]

Fwiw, you also raise FORT through the two skills trees.

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

Fwiw, you also raise FORT through the two skills trees.

Yea, but its such a small boost and skill point gain is slow as it is. Im not asking the game to be easy mode, just baffles me that raising a slotted hero from 2-3 stars does NOTHING for your power even though it technically boost all stats for that hero.

 

[Anastasis]

The whole home base power thing is so out of wack. The developers said here (https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/forums/fortnite-discussion/general-discussion/19031-state-of-game-progression) that you want three things to line up to the power level of the mission at hand:

Hero
Weapon
Home Base

Hero and Weapon power is ridiculously easy to obtain.

Home Base power is one of the most convoluted systems of progression I've ever seen.

 

[Shredderi]

I have had three rewards evaporate thus far. One legendary weapon schematic that I got from a mission but I didn't get it. Another epic schematic had the same thing happen to it, but the one that hurts A LOT was a mythic survivor from an upgrade llama that never went into my inventory. I got it but I didn't. Read about it and there's surprising amount of people who have had this happen to them and Epic's response was that no reimbursement (for those who bought llamas with real money and got a mythic survivor from that) or replacement of any kind. Why would you risk actual money on this game after that, if anything you get is liable to disappear due to a glitch and there will be nothing done about it? Jesus christ that is as far from good customer support as you can get.

And no, I didn't accidentally retire or recycle anything.

 

[Redshirt]

Damn. That sucks. I haven't lost anything like that fortunately.

 

[SmoothRunningGun]

What do I do with all the crafting materials taking up all of my inventory space? Aside from crafting Traps and Weapons, what are they even for lol! How is there not a craftable chest yet for you to store this crap in at your Stormshield Base?

About to do Pankerton SSD 2 but I have no idea where the mobs will spawn lol. It makes creating your defenses kinda of a pain in the ass. Plus the two amplifiers are stationed right up against the barrier so I can only build inward instead of out which kinda limits what I can do.

You can start, see where they spawn then quit before they break anything. I think the spawn locations stay the same (not positive).

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

I have had three rewards evaporate thus far. One legendary weapon schematic that I got from a mission but I didn't get it. Another epic schematic had the same thing happen to it, but the one that hurts A LOT was a mythic survivor from an upgrade llama that never went into my inventory. I got it but I didn't. Read about it and there's surprising amount of people who have had this happen to them and Epic's response was that no reimbursement (for those who bought llamas with real money and got a mythic survivor from that) or replacement of any kind. Why would you risk actual money on this game after that, if anything you get is liable to disappear due to a glitch and there will be nothing done about it? Jesus christ that is as far from good customer support as you can get.

And no, I didn't accidentally retire or recycle anything.

Where did you get a legendary weapon schematic from a mission?

 

[Shredderi]

Where did you get a legendary weapon schematic from a mission?

Might have been a chest from a mission, not a mission reward per say.

Damn. That sucks. I haven't lost anything like that fortunately.

Yeah it sucks balls :/

 

[UpDownLeftRight]

Might have been a chest from a mission, not a mission reward per say.

Fairly certain that's not possible. In mission rewards will be the weapon not the blueprint.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

Might have been a chest from a mission, not a mission reward per say.



Yeah it sucks balls :/

You can't get a schematic from a chest. You can get a legendary weapon from a chest and it'll be in your inventory, but it won't be a schematic. I've only gotten legendary weapons from storm chests, so that is probably where you got it from. It's not a schematic, but it'll be high durability and potentially very good.

 

[R0ckman]

I have had three rewards evaporate thus far. One legendary weapon schematic that I got from a mission but I didn't get it. Another epic schematic had the same thing happen to it, but the one that hurts A LOT was a mythic survivor from an upgrade llama that never went into my inventory. I got it but I didn't. Read about it and there's surprising amount of people who have had this happen to them and Epic's response was that no reimbursement (for those who bought llamas with real money and got a mythic survivor from that) or replacement of any kind. Why would you risk actual money on this game after that, if anything you get is liable to disappear due to a glitch and there will be nothing done about it? Jesus christ that is as far from good customer support as you can get.

And no, I didn't accidentally retire or recycle anything.

This game needs a rework big time. Why the hell can I not get randoms for my defence missions? It shouldn't have been hard to make a system that encourages you to jump into defence missions.

 

[Palmer_v1]

Game made me log out for an update.

 

[Redshirt]

Stability updates!

 

[UpDownLeftRight]

This game needs a rework big time. Why the hell can I not get randoms for my defence missions? It shouldn't have been hard to make a system that encourages you to jump into defence missions.

This is a major issue. RNG map item quests that encourage quitting is a major issue. Encouraging players horde their resources is a major issue. It's quite frustrating. Had they simply made it so at least 1 of each spawns each time in a map and removed the SSD's all together the game would play a lot better.

Loot is still really awful though. There's certainly a lot of work to be done IMO and I don't expect it to be as these sorts of things could have been spotted on paper.

 

[FeD.nL]

Ugh, was really working towards that Legendary hero transform key you get at the end of Plankerton. Finally get it, 1 in 40 chance of getting a dupe... gets the fucking dupe -.-'

 

[R0ckman]

Ugh, was really working towards that Legendary hero transform key you get at the end of Plankerton. Finally get it, 1 in 40 chance of getting a dupe... gets the fucking dupe -.-'

Hahaha, I'm so sorry man, but I bust out laughing at this, OF COURSE you get the damn dupe, you get so pissed off that its just funny from there on out.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

Ugh, was really working towards that Legendary hero transform key you get at the end of Plankerton. Finally get it, 1 in 40 chance of getting a dupe... gets the fucking dupe -.-'

I don't think there are 40 legendary heroes. But yeah that sucks.

Also, I am looking forward to getting it, I can't get a dupe

 

[R0ckman]

This is a major issue. RNG map item quests that encourage quitting is a major issue. Encouraging players horde their resources is a major issue. It's quite frustrating. Had they simply made it so at least 1 of each spawns each time in a map and removed the SSD's all together the game would play a lot better.

Loot is still really awful though. There's certainly a lot of work to be done IMO and I don't expect it to be as these sorts of things could have been spotted on paper.

I also hate defence missions in general as the stupid barrier makes is hard to prepare and the random element involved in the monsters appearing. Even if you make a good funnel they start spamming large amounts of the suicide husks that just destroy everything.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

I like the defense missions. Always has been one of my favorite parts of the game.

 

[Palmer_v1]

Do the Super Troll Llamas always go Gold or did it get lucky with mine?

 

[Redshirt]

Do the Super Troll Llamas always go Gold or did it get lucky with mine?

Guaranteed from what I read on Reddit.

 

[UpDownLeftRight]

They bring the legendary loot pack back but instead of being 1k you get 2 for 1500! Great get everyone to save 1k and then fuck with your previously established pricing! I'm seriously getting sick of this shit now. I saved for over a week and now have no way to acquire the last 250 without paying money. Can't even buy the one as a single.

Can you refund this on PS4? I've truly had enough now.

 

[Shredderi]

You can't get a schematic from a chest. You can get a legendary weapon from a chest and it'll be in your inventory, but it won't be a schematic. I've only gotten legendary weapons from storm chests, so that is probably where you got it from. It's not a schematic, but it'll be high durability and potentially very good.

Right, it was a weapon, not a schematic. All the same, I didn't receive it, just like I didn't receive my mythic leader (

 

[Shredderi]

They bring the legendary loot pack back but instead of being 1k you get 2 for 1500! Great get everyone to save 1k and then fuck with your previously established pricing! I'm seriously getting sick of this shit now. I saved for over a week and now have no way to acquire the last 250 without paying money. Can't even buy the one as a single.

Can you refund this on PS4? I've truly had enough now.

Yeah I gotta say they're not being really smart right now. They're not really doing the right things, and they really should start doing a lot of right things in succession because I've started to see a lot of resentment towards the game from a lot of players these past few days. I'm starting to feel that resentment myself and I was all over the game at first since the moment-to-moment gameplay was pretty fun and I like co-op. They would be more wise to err on the side of not milking as much as they think they potentially could, and create a more lasting positive word of mouth for the game for now.

 

[UpDownLeftRight]

Yeah I gotta say they're not being really smart right now. They're not really doing the right things, and they really should start doing a lot of right things in succession because I've started to see a lot of resentment towards the game from a lot of players these past few days. I'm starting to feel that resentment myself and I was all over the game at first since the moment-to-moment gameplay was pretty fun and I like co-op. They would be more wise to err on the side of not milking as much as they think they potentially could, and create a more lasting positive word of mouth for the game for now.

I agree. I actually love the core of the game but I feel like it has zero respect for my time. I get very little back for what I put in and I play gacha's with abysmal pull rates and don't feel like my time is as wasted. I've played other F2P loot grinds that give way more back in return.

I really enjoyed the whole first area but once it slows down it literally falls off a cliff. Just makes me wonder how much worse this is all going to feel when the last mission to help with storm defenses is done. It would take 30 days to get enough V Bucks for that crate and some those dailies take hours of play depending on luck.

 

[Shredderi]

I agree. I actually love the core of the game but I feel like it has zero respect for my time. I get very little back for what I put in and I play gacha's with abysmal pull rates and don't feel like my time is as wasted. I've played other F2P loot grinds that give way more back in return.

I really enjoyed the whole first area but once it slows down it literally falls off a cliff. Just makes me wonder how much worse this is all going to feel when the last mission to help with storm defenses is done. It would take 30 days to get enough V Bucks for that crate and some those dailies take hours of play depending on luck.

Ditto. Really feeling the burn, so to speak. I'm constantly out of everything that I need to craft to get to the fun part of the game.

 

[Tei]

*opens legendary llama*

Got shit legendaries, but some awesome epic that I upgraded and feel like a monster.

 

[UpDownLeftRight]

Ditto. Really feeling the burn, so to speak. I'm constantly out of everything that I need to craft to get to the fun part of the game.

Yeah one of the reasons I've not been playing much the last few days is because I stopped off to do a few SSD's and have no rotating gizmo's anymore and have had awful luck getting them. Really can't be bothered to scout multiple levels just to make my guns again.

This crate deal has another sting too. It breaks the rule of 10 founders coins for every 100 v bucks spent according to Reddit. You only get 50 instead of the 150 you'd expect.

Edit: Oh my god. A guy pulled a Legendary floor launcher where almost all of the perks were crit damage. Why the drops can roll for perks that have zero impact on them is beyond me.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

I never run out of gizmos. It's an easy resource to farm tbh. Just get them while playing the game normally. That said, if you die too often or do a lot of SSDs where you can't get them...

Are people doing expeditions enough? Medium crafting seems to get a couple. It really makes leveling up multiple heroes valuable over time. Leveling up heroes is easy too, and you get hero xp from SSDs. The bigger thing to collect is rain drops, because over time a lot of small amount of rain drops add up.

 

[Shredderi]

Yeah one of the reasons I've not been playing much the last few days is because I stopped off to do a few SSD's and have no rotating gizmo's anymore and have had awful luck getting them. Really can't be bothered to scout multiple levels just to make my guns again.

This crate deal has another sting too. It breaks the rule of 10 founders coins for every 100 v bucks spent according to Reddit. You only get 50 instead of the 150 you'd expect.

Man I'm starting to feel glad I got this game for just a tenner