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Hardcore History |OT| New episode: Painfotainment

His Plan A topic was probably Cortez and Montezuma. He's not doing it because History on Fire is, and Daniele actually starts his series by apologizing for making Dan change topics.
 
His Plan A topic was probably Cortez and Montezuma. He's not doing it because History on Fire is, and Daniele actually starts his series by apologizing for making Dan change topics.
Oh, interesting, haven't gotten to the latest HoF yet. I wonder if Plan B will be adjacent (ie a different conquistador, a different age of discovery story, etc) or something completely different
 

frontovik

Banned
Was just reading about the Thirty Years War last night and thought about what a solid HH that could be, ever consider it?
yes! Do you know how long that might take though? French Rev is the same way-it would be like doing another "Blueprint" series

He covered an aspect of the Reformation through the siege of Munster .. but it would be interesting if he took it a step further with an overview of the Thirty Years War.

It's not as widely known outside of Germany, yet it was certainly considered one of the most devastating wars on a brutality scale on par with the Second World War.
 

ahoyhoy

Unconfirmed Member
His Plan A topic was probably Cortez and Montezuma. He's not doing it because History on Fire is, and Daniele actually starts his series by apologizing for making Dan change topics.

Daniele is good but he's a pale substitute for Carlin.

HoF episode could be interesting with its companion series on Martyr Made, which I would recommend everyone here check out.
 
Saw a recent tweet from Carlin that said Destroyer of Worlds had "nearly 19 million downloads". Not sure how many downloads the biggest podcasts get, but that was a way bigger number than I was expecting. I thought podcasts were kind of more niche than that, even one as popular as HH.
 
Judging by the name, Irish famine?

I don't think so.
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Caesar's conquest of Gaul, based on the description.
Where is the description?
 
Julius Caesar is our travel guide as he takes us through his murderous subjugation of the native Celtic tribal peoples of ancient Gaul. It sounds vaguely like other, recent European colonial conquests...until the natives nearly win.

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frontovik

Banned
Nice. More Hardcore History is always welcomed.

I'm intrigued that Carlin is covering Caesar's conquest of Gaul as most history books don't seem to make a "big deal" about what transpired in the Roman conquest. The Romans literally annexed the region of modern day France and the Low Countries and brutally slaughtered any tribes that resisted them; in death tolls ranging in hundred of thousands.. (regardless of gender or age)
 
Nice. More Hardcore History is always welcomed.

I'm intrigued that Carlin is covering Caesar's conquest of Gaul as most history books don't seem to make a "big deal" about what transpired in the Roman conquest. The Romans literally annexed the region of modern day France and the Low Countries and brutally slaughtered any tribes that resisted them (regardless of gender or age)
Remembering Carlin's focus in the Wrath of the Khans and the comments of that professor that stuck with him, this is like the perfect topic for him. The quickly-passed-over "no big deal" sidenote that was a horrific atrocity thousands of years ago
 
Remembering Carlin's focus in the Wrath of the Khans and the comments of that professor that stuck with him, this is like the perfect topic for him. The quickly-passed-over "no big deal" sidenote that was a horrific atrocity thousands of years ago

His professor was talking what happened to the Chinese during the invasions.
 

CassSept

Member
Death Throes of the Empire VI, which was basically focused on rise and fall of Julius Ceaser (after he was set up in part V) was shorter than this podcast on gaelic conquests.

Excited for this and no wonder he took 6.5 months, 6 hours after ditching plan A, the man is insane.
 

TTG

Member
Well, I guess I'll go for a 6 hour workout. I'm actually very excited, didn't mean for it to sound like a complaint.
 

Wvrs

Member
I've been obsessed with Roman history lately and I've read so many books, but Caesar's conquests are actually a gap in my education beyond their political significance for Rome, and being from a Celtic land myself I'm excited to listen to this. Lovely surprise!
 

Oriel

Member
Oddly enough this Celt was wondering a curious What-If where the Celts in 390 BC decided to wipe Rome off the map like the Romans did with Carthage instead of merely plundering the city. Would we have all been speaking something like Irish/Welsh today and worshipping the ancient Celtic gods?
 

frontovik

Banned
Doubtful. I suspect the Carthaginians or one of Alexander's Successor/Hellenistic Kingdoms would have ended up dominating the Mediterranean instead of the Romans.

The petty tribal society of the Celts and lack of a strong central government would have surely made it impossible for them to unify and maintain Europe under their control, unlike the Greeks and Carthaginians who had developed sophisticated institutions as civilizations.
 

Oriel

Member
Doubtful. I suspect the Carthaginians or one of Alexander's Successor/Hellenistic Kingdoms would have ended up dominating the Mediterranean.

The tribal society of the Celts would have surely made it impossible for them to unify and maintain Europe under their control.

It need not have been empire in the formal sense that we know it, more a Celtic hedgmony where their culture, economy and influence is dominant in Europe. We saw this later when the Germanic tribes rose in the wake of Rome's collapse in the West. What were once fractured tribes eventually gave way to the Frankish Empire. Celtic civilisation never had the opportunity to grow and evolve. Who knows where it might have ended up after a few centuries.

And FWIW, coherent Celtic kingdoms with centralised authority have been established in Ireland, Scotland and Wales.
 
Awesome! Can't wait for a listen!

Hardcore History is probably one of the first podcasts I ever really listened to. Thing is, in the time since then, I've gotten into podcasts in a big way. I've got 24 different subscriptions I've been keeping up with, and I've barely been able to juggle them as is! Let's see how this 6 hour atom bomb wrecks my delicate podcast environment.
 
That's a nice announcement to wake up to! King of Kings is still on my to-listen list but it didn't really grab me.

Having read De Bello Gallico a long time ago my knowledge on the subject has become a bit rusty. And very one sided of course.
 
With the release of this, you could, in theory, do a marathon where you start with Punic Nightmares, move on to Death Throes of the Republic with Celtic Holocaust and Romancing the Tribes thrown in after Caesar is first introduced, finish off Death Throes of the Republic, then finish it off with Thor's Angels and its extra episode, having never truly left the Roman period (apart from the story of Tecumseh during Romancing the Tribes).

How many hours would that take?
 

Kalor

Member
I still need to get round to King of Kings but I'll probably listen to this first. I'm more interested in the topic.
 
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