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Red Letter Media |OT| of Movies, Murderers, and Pizza Rolls

rekameohs

Banned
Having watched it it's interesting to revisit the movie as I worked on it briefly near the end of its post production. Three things that stood out to me in the review:

- Al Pacino Jack and Jill cameo. Dear god it's awful just seeing...

- those effects going past the black bars bothers me and I'm not too sure why

- there was a point where I couldn't tell what was the original edit and what was Mike or Jay over edit of the cast improvising/talking over each other
That's not even an Al Pacino cameo. He's the focal point of the movie. The plot of Jack and Jill is to get Al Pacino to sell product placement.
 
Wrote in the OT thread, but the more I think about it, the more I'm disappointed that Mike didn't go into Ghostbusters 2 at all, especially when he was comparing the 2016 reboot with the original. Mike really disliked Ghostbusters 2, and in a way, I think the review might have been stronger if he used it and the 2016 reboot to illustrate just how good the first movie is, and that no matter what, either doing a reboot which is a beat for beat recreation of the first movie, or the sequel which is a beat for beat recreation of the first movie, just doesn't work, and that maybe it was all lightning in a bottle that first time out.

Also, it would have been nice for him to tear into Ghostbusters 2 since most haven't heard their commentary, and it is still a loved film, despite having a ton of problems, like Last Crusade compared to Raiders.
 
The Last Crusade is a screwball comedy featuring the characters of the Raiders series in a blandly directed, inoffensive romp. I enjoy it for what it is, but it's not a good movie and certainly not a good Raiders movie. It's one of the go-to "it's not a good movie, but I enjoy it".
 

davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
this plinkett review felt like a return to form after the last couple.


really don't like how comedies nowadays are basically just actors improvving non-stop with no restraint. its a problem with all modern comedies.

show some restraint
 

Forkball

Member
I watched it, but it's only cause I knew these guys were funny.

Never saw GB2016 so I can't compare, but it seemed like a good analysis on the faults of the film with some jokes that made me laugh (Plinkett's jokes that is).

Though Christ, GB videos bring out the worst comments. Can't we just run jokes into the ground instead?
 

LakeEarth

Member
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Sure director and writer, that was NOT product placement for Pringles. It's just a coincidence that the label was always pointing toward the camera in every scene no matter the angle. Just a fluke, yup.
 
IMO it had way too much of a comparison to the original. If it just scolded the inane story of this horrific movie standing on its own merits, I would have enjoyed the review more. I still enjoy what we got, but I was just expecting something else.

I kept thinking it probably would've served the review better if it compared it with 21 Jump Street.
 

Village

Member
So I had never seen a plinkett review before that one, I'm new to red letter media in general to be honest. So I click the next reccomended video, his thing on the force awakens, and... this one is not as good as the ghost busters video.

The ghost busters video is shorter, and actively talks about differences in film making, between ghost busters, and ghost busters 2016 in ways that made me look at the film differently. This force awakens thing so far is him talking about a theory, and being upset people younger than him might like the prequels unironically, not acknowledging that he has limited knowledge of the star wars franchises and how it does outside of his perceived view of star wars suggesting that " all things star wars using the older things as marketing material" which is kind of factually untrue. He's essentially just being mad at people thinking differently from him or being younger than him. Or both

Are all plinkett reviews just... that?
 
So I had never seen a plinkett review before that one, I'm new to red letter media in general to be honest. So I click the next reccomended video, his thing on the force awakens, and... this one is not as good as the ghost busters video.

The ghost busters video is shorter, and actively talks about differences in film making, between ghost busters, and ghost busters 2016 in ways that made me look at the film differently. This force awakens thing so far is him talking about a theory, and being upset people younger than him might like the prequels unironically, not acknowledging that he has limited knowledge of the star wars franchises and how it does outside of his perceived view of star wars suggesting that " all things star wars using the older things as marketing material" which is kind of factually untrue. He's essentially just being mad at people thinking differently from him or being younger than him. Or both

Are all plinkett reviews just... that?

I'd say that the general consensus of the TFA review is that it's easily the worst of his. If you want to get into Plinkett reviews, start with the prequel trilogy. There's no way around it.
 
So I had never seen a plinkett review before that one, I'm new to red letter media in general to be honest. So I click the next reccomended video, his thing on the force awakens, and... this one is not as good as the ghost busters video.

The ghost busters video is shorter, and actively talks about differences in film making, between ghost busters, and ghost busters 2016 in ways that made me look at the film differently. This force awakens thing so far is him talking about a theory, and being upset people younger than him might like the prequels unironically, not acknowledging that he has limited knowledge of the star wars franchises and how it does outside of his perceived view of star wars suggesting that " all things star wars using the older things as marketing material" which is kind of factually untrue. He's essentially just being mad at people thinking differently from him or being younger than him. Or both

Are all plinkett reviews just... that?

The TFA review is weird in part because it's not really a TFA review. It's much more about the revival of the Star Wars brand and how it fits into Stoklasa's (highly cynical) view on modern blockbuster filmmaking. That, combined with the weird Ring Theory tangent, made it really different than other Plinkett reviews.

Every other Plinkett review is closer to the Ghostbusters review. Though they do tend to have a lot more dark humor.
 

Lupercal

Banned
The Last Crusade is a screwball comedy featuring the characters of the Raiders series in a blandly directed, inoffensive romp. I enjoy it for what it is, but it's not a good movie and certainly not a good Raiders movie. It's one of the go-to "it's not a good movie, but I enjoy it".

The Last Crusade is a bad movie? What?
Best Indy film yet.
 

Anth0ny

Member
Plinkett is at his best when he's tearing a bad film a new asshole AND showing why a comparable, older film did things better, disproving all the bullshit "You just like the old one because nostalgia" arguments.

I think a Plinkett review for Rogue One could work well for this reason.
 

Village

Member
Ok thanks i'll check some other things out. Because if I just wanted to see an older person get mad at younger demo's for liking things they grew up with. One, I could just have a conversation with myself about transfomers. But two, there are plenty of youtubers I don't watch that do that. That shit I feel creates an over insular circle that doesn't really allow for new view points.

But if the rest of his reviews actually have insightful points, i'll check em out
 

Lupercal

Banned
Plinkett is at his best when he's tearing a bad film a new asshole AND showing why a comparable, older film did things better, disproving all the bullshit "You just like the old one because nostalgia" arguments.

I think a Plinkett review for Rogue One could work well for this reason.

Watching the commentary feels kinda like a Plinkett reviews here and there.
 

EVOL 100%

Member
So I had never seen a plinkett review before that one, I'm new to red letter media in general to be honest. So I click the next reccomended video, his thing on the force awakens, and... this one is not as good as the ghost busters video.

The ghost busters video is shorter, and actively talks about differences in film making, between ghost busters, and ghost busters 2016 in ways that made me look at the film differently. This force awakens thing so far is him talking about a theory, and being upset people younger than him might like the prequels unironically, not acknowledging that he has limited knowledge of the star wars franchises and how it does outside of his perceived view of star wars suggesting that " all things star wars using the older things as marketing material" which is kind of factually untrue. He's essentially just being mad at people thinking differently from him or being younger than him. Or both

Are all plinkett reviews just... that?

I like rlm in general, even the stupid shit but I couldn't finish the TFA review. I spent I think 40 minutes and I didn't even laugh or smile a single time
 

Sephzilla

Member
Sure director and writer, that was NOT product placement for Pringles. It's just a coincidence that the label was always pointing toward the camera in every scene no matter the angle. Just a fluke, yup.

"It was in the script for her to say the catch phrase of the product"
 
Ok thanks i'll check some other things out. Because if I just wanted to see an older person get mad at younger demo's for liking things they grew up with. One, I could just have a conversation with myself about transfomers. But two, there are plenty of youtubers I don't watch that do that. That shit I feel creates an over insular circle that doesn't really allow for new view points.

But if the rest of his reviews actually have insightful points, i'll check em out

Start with the Episode 1 review. It's a top-tier analysis that doesn't resort to cheap "Jar Jar Binks suckssss" shots even once. If you still don't like, you might want to bail out (but I doubt it if you already liked the Ghostbusters one).
 
I don't mind product placement within reason, when it doesn't come off like a commercial in the movie. Ghostbuster 2016's Papa John stuff does. Iron Man 3 and Captain America Winter Soldier do as well. Using Sony camcorders or Audi cars as props is what it is. I don't mind that stuff.

At the same time, I love the Back to the Future series and 1&2 are full of in your face product placements. I don't know. Maybe it's that they do something interesting by showing the future versions of the products.
 

davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
I never minded the Sony branded props because they have to have some sort of computer might as well go the easy way and use one without any changes.

That papa johns stuff is another level though.
 

TAJ

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
I just found a copy of Hollywood Cop on the ground. Fate has smiled on me.
 

The Real Abed

Perma-Junior
Okay so I'm finally watching the Plinkett review and something keeps bugging me. I assume it's meant for the 3D version but the special effects breaking out of the frame into the letterboxing is really really off-putting. Is this on all the Blu-Rays of this film? Because it is terrible. I mean I'm sure if you're watching in a theater with 3D glasses it probably enhances the experience. But every time it happens in these clips it just makes me feel like it's wrong. It doesn't need to happen. But it does. I don't like it.

Anyone wanna put more input on that? Has any other film release done this? Was it like that in the theater? Was it like that for all releases or just 3D? Why does it exist? Why does it happen? And why do I find it so annoying? Anyone else?
 

rekameohs

Banned
Okay so I'm finally watching the Plinkett review and something keeps bugging me. I assume it's meant for the 3D version but the special effects breaking out of the frame into the letterboxing is really really off-putting. Is this on all the Blu-Rays of this film? Because it is terrible. I mean I'm sure if you're watching in a theater with 3D glasses it probably enhances the experience. But every time it happens in these clips it just makes me feel like it's wrong. It doesn't need to happen. But it does. I don't like it.

Anyone wanna put more input on that? Has any other film release done this? Was it like that in the theater? Was it like that for all releases or just 3D? Why does it exist? Why does it happen? And why do I find it so annoying? Anyone else?
I don't know about Ghostbusters, but the IMAX version of Fantastic Beasts did that and it was very distracting.
 

Cheerilee

Member
Okay so I'm finally watching the Plinkett review and something keeps bugging me. I assume it's meant for the 3D version but the special effects breaking out of the frame into the letterboxing is really really off-putting. Is this on all the Blu-Rays of this film? Because it is terrible. I mean I'm sure if you're watching in a theater with 3D glasses it probably enhances the experience. But every time it happens in these clips it just makes me feel like it's wrong. It doesn't need to happen. But it does. I don't like it.

Anyone wanna put more input on that? Has any other film release done this? Was it like that in the theater? Was it like that for all releases or just 3D? Why does it exist? Why does it happen? And why do I find it so annoying? Anyone else?

http://www.cinemablend.com/news/1534640/how-ghostbusters-totally-breaks-the-norm-when-it-comes-to-3d

Paul Feig said:
there's this whole thing with 3D and directors, which is everybody goes like 'I'm going to be classy. I'm not going to do stuff where I'm going to throw stuff in the audience's face!' I'm like, 'Why would you not do that?!' That's the most fun thing you can do with 3D!
Paul Feig said:
the company that did our 3D conversion they said, 'What we can do, since we're in widescreen, is we can play with the bars. Let's break through that!' And I was just like a kid in a candy store. 'Let's do more of that, let's do more of that!'
 

Fat4all

Banned
it seems like an effect some studios are doing just because they can, under a guise of inhancing the effects.

im not a big fan either.
 

TAJ

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
That popping out of the frame thing is on both the 2D and 3D Blu-rays.
I also have a UHD disc here but no way to look at it.
It's not on either cut of the movie when streaming in 1080p on Vudu.
I actually like it.
 

The Real Abed

Perma-Junior
it makes me wonder why they don't just use that extra space for the film itself, and not just to pop effects
Gotta have that cinematic widescreen experience.

Which gets ruined when you have special effects leaking out of the movie.

It's like it's supposed to happen so fast you aren't supposed to notice it. But like Tyler Durden once said, "You don't know you've seen it, but you have." Though he was talking about something totally different.

I wish Plinkett had said something about it. I don't think Jay or Mike mentioned it either. I guess no one else cares.
 
I'd rather have one Best of the Worst than 3 HitB episodes. It's not like they have anything interesting or insightful to say about new movies.
 
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