Triggerhappytel
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Are there any vignettes on YouTube or anything that summarise the humour from more recent episodes? I haven't watched it properly in about a decade and it was lame even back then.
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Super Eyepatch Wolf: The Fall of the Simpsons - How it happened
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Are there any vignettes on YouTube or anything that summarise the humour from more recent episodes? I haven't watched it properly in about a decade and it was lame even back then.
Lucky Seven
Banned
Hah, glad I'm not the only one who thought this. I don't like his narration at all.
rockinreelin
Member
BTW those simpsons world episodes are overscanned to fill up widescreen TV's and have a lot of scenes edited out so you are missing out on a lot. They really dropped the ball on that one. I stopped watching them once I realized they were removing some of the best scenes in the episodes. So disappointing. I guess they are never going to do unaltered blu-ray's.
To be fair some of the Halloween episodes and the Itchy and Scratchy stuff are pretty fucked up even by today's standards
Velocity:Design:Comfort
Banned
Yeah, its just that but put in digestible youtuber form with animation. Which is cool, but if you've read this, this video doesn't really add that much tbh.
HazySaiyan
Banned
You owe it to yourself to go and watch it, it's some of the best television ever made.
Imperial Bishop
Banned
I didn't get into the Simpsons until the early 2000's when young me watched a bunch of reruns of the older seasons.
It got me hooked on a Simpsons kick which ended around when the movie came out and I never really bothered to continue following the show since then.
I still have the collector's edition of Seasons 1-3 on DVD.
It got me hooked on a Simpsons kick which ended around when the movie came out and I never really bothered to continue following the show since then.
I still have the collector's edition of Seasons 1-3 on DVD.
pizzaparty
Member
Does he do anything other than summarize stuff from No Homer's?
The post revival seasons are bad, you can see eps of them on Youtube live streams, it only serves a reminder that those seasons lost something when it came back from cancellation.
newtypepilot
Member
the show stayed on for way too long. Eventually you just run out of ideas. The show wasn't as great as it used to be after the first 7-8 seasons but the writing was still decent. I think the most noticeable decline in quality is when the show switched to widescreen. It's like the they gave up and just don't care anymore, but let's continue to milk that cash cow.
The thing with the Simpsons is that it's kind of a double edge sword. Let's say they did end it in the 90's on Season 8 or 7. Do you realize the amount of people that would be consistently begging for Simpsons content if they did something like that? Simpsons was literally a cultural phenomenon like anything else was. It wasn't a cult hit like Twin Peaks, and look how much of a demand there was to see more of that. They pretty much had no choice, financially, to produce more Simpsons. Hell I would even argue if they cancel it now it won't take but a couple of years before people start asking for more. Simpsons fans want more, but the guys that were the main creative force of the Simpsons just aren't there anymore to provide what those fans want.
KojiKnight
Member
Watching now... had to take a stop. I'm not keen on him claiming Simpsons was the end of "clean family" sit coms when Married With Children premiered 2 years prior...
(Edit) Apparently I paused too soon, as another couple minutes further indulges in what the simpsons did 'first' which MWC did much earlier. I guess what he says holds true for animation, but if that's what he means, he's referring directly to other live action shows muddies his point greatly.
(Edit) Apparently I paused too soon, as another couple minutes further indulges in what the simpsons did 'first' which MWC did much earlier. I guess what he says holds true for animation, but if that's what he means, he's referring directly to other live action shows muddies his point greatly.
Gentleman Jack
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Roseanne was also from just before "Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire" and was absolutely a reaction to the same sanitary, saccharine bullshit on TV at the time. It was a family sitcom, but this time the house was frequently a mess, the two leads were blue collar misfits struggling to make ends meet and not everything got a happy ending. #1 in ratings right up until the Simpsons took over everything.
KojiKnight
Member
Too true, forgot Roseanne. The first few seasons were quite good and yeah also served the same thing.
sixteen-bit
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Great video!
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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Adds nothing to the conversation about The Simpsons that hasn't previously been articulated and is extremely hyperbolic in its claims about both the show's qualities and its place in the American cultural canon.
kidtamagotchi
Member
To me, when the Simpson went HD is when it started getting good again. Everything from the fake Skinner episode up until then was just horrible.
Though, to me, what the episodes are missing is 'heart'. I don't know, I don't feel their is genuine emotion/emotional stakes anymore. They have some with heart still, like the Christmas episode about Maggie, but those are few and far between.
JordanN
Banned
I'm a lapsed Simpsons fan but I find it hard to pin point when did the show really suck or what should have been the proper solution to addressing the decline.
The only definite viewpoint I have is that I believe the Simpsons Movie came out too late. In the video, the guy talks about how early Simpsons tried to be clever with its storytelling/jokes and it was true. The Simpsons Movie clearly wanted to do the same thing, but when the current show was surviving off of using celebrities, the movie was caught in the crossfire and couldn't deliver anything that would appeal to lapsed fans who wanted a story, and the more modern "pop culture" one.
The result was just a "passable" movie but not one anyone talks about anymore. Had they made a movie in 1999 like South Park did, I think they could have put out something more memorable.
The only definite viewpoint I have is that I believe the Simpsons Movie came out too late. In the video, the guy talks about how early Simpsons tried to be clever with its storytelling/jokes and it was true. The Simpsons Movie clearly wanted to do the same thing, but when the current show was surviving off of using celebrities, the movie was caught in the crossfire and couldn't deliver anything that would appeal to lapsed fans who wanted a story, and the more modern "pop culture" one.
The result was just a "passable" movie but not one anyone talks about anymore. Had they made a movie in 1999 like South Park did, I think they could have put out something more memorable.
whitemex88
Member
I read the synopsis for a recent episode of the past season and oh my. Just kill the show. Something about Dogs lives being ruled worth more than a humans by the court and all the dogs wise up to it.
Let it die
Let it die
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
The Simpsons is (was) an important staple of American television and culture. I don't find anything hyperbolic.
whitemex88
Member
This show was on the same pedestal as the greatest shows at the time.
UberTag
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Unaltered Blu-rays? Possibly once the show is formally off the air.
The DVD sets feature episodes in their original 4:3 resolution and will continue to be released to retail later this year.
That was most of the big names of the late 80s and 90s. Saccharine series like The Cosby Show, Who's the Boss, Family Ties, and Full House, or even just shows with a bit more meaning and emotional content like Cheers or Taxi, had set audience expectations about TV comedies. Roseanne, Seinfeld, The Simpsons, and especially Married With Children were all reactions to one or more of those series (though Full House was contemporaneous with Married With Children).
I've never seen a complete episode of the Simpsons. I remember watching it once and something called the ku klux Klam came up.
Chairmanchuck
Member
This is not fanart:
Watched one of Season 27 episodes yesterday. Marge becomes a crime scene cleaner. In one shot you see how the intestines of a killed one fall from the ceiling along with his heart and a chopped-off hand.
Its not a Treehouse of Horror episode...
Watched one of Season 27 episodes yesterday. Marge becomes a crime scene cleaner. In one shot you see how the intestines of a killed one fall from the ceiling along with his heart and a chopped-off hand.
Its not a Treehouse of Horror episode...
The wit of the writing for peak Simpsons is basically unparalleled in the history of TV imo. It's the reason why there's a Simpsons picture for everything. It's the reason why the lines or gifs still make you laugh all these years later even after watching the episodes over and over.
I'm glad the video brought up the multiple layers to some of the jokes, because that is something I really started to notice as I rewatched the show in my adult life. Maybe as a kid one or two of those layers hit me, but as an adult I'm taking them all in at once and it's fucking hysterical. I often have to pause the show and think about what I just saw because I'm laughing so hard.
It's fucking amazing and those writers are all geniuses.
I'm glad the video brought up the multiple layers to some of the jokes, because that is something I really started to notice as I rewatched the show in my adult life. Maybe as a kid one or two of those layers hit me, but as an adult I'm taking them all in at once and it's fucking hysterical. I often have to pause the show and think about what I just saw because I'm laughing so hard.
It's fucking amazing and those writers are all geniuses.
I remain amazed that The Simpsons is still on. I mean, I know it has to be because a ton of people still watch it. But it's so far out of my mind and the minds of those around me that the show may as well not exist.
That's the thing I like most about SEW. While many youtubers and online critics talk about "I only critic this because I love it," Super Eyepatch Wolf is one of the few that backs it up in his delivery and analysis. He comes across as a genuine and humble guy, which gives his videos a very personal and relatable feel.
That said, he also doesn't fall into the realm of sitting on the fence about things. If he dislikes something, he says it and backs it up. But like you said, he avoids the tiring over-aggresive delivery and overall smugness that plagues so many online personalities.
That's the thing I like most about SEW. While many youtubers and online critics talk about "I only critic this because I love it," Super Eyepatch Wolf is one of the few that backs it up in his delivery and analysis. He comes across as a genuine and humble guy, which gives his videos a very personal and relatable feel.
That said, he also doesn't fall into the realm of sitting on the fence about things. If he dislikes something, he says it and backs it up. But like you said, he avoids the tiring over-aggresive delivery and overall smugness that plagues so many online personalities.
ViperVisor
Member
The best point is the writing staff quality and the quantity of work they put in.
If you don't change those variables the show would of declined because the juiciest story-lines are put into scripts.
And playing the same originally very funny note with characters for years and years doesn't work.
If you don't change those variables the show would of declined because the juiciest story-lines are put into scripts.
And playing the same originally very funny note with characters for years and years doesn't work.
This post is bonkers.
The show wasn't surviving off of using celebs anymore then usual and Simpsons have had many guest stars for a long time. Season 7 had over 1 celeb on avg per ep and that's not counting Phil Hartmann. Season 4 had an entire baseball team.
SuperEpicMan
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I think the issue The Simpsons has is shared by a lot of TV shows. Where the characters become dramatised caricatures of themselves. I mean as shows go on it must become harder and harder to write new situations for the characters to find themselves in, so we end up seeing more and more absurd storylines to which the characters have to respond to.
I felt the same thing happened in The Office, and Parks and Recreation. What were once exaggerated but plausible characters, slowly get eroded away into one parodies of their former characters. I still love the shows (even the later seasons), but it is a massive shame. Kevin in particular just turns into the fat idiot for the audience to laugh at. Holly even thinks he has learning difficulty. Shows often wind up being a victim of their own success.
I felt the same thing happened in The Office, and Parks and Recreation. What were once exaggerated but plausible characters, slowly get eroded away into one parodies of their former characters. I still love the shows (even the later seasons), but it is a massive shame. Kevin in particular just turns into the fat idiot for the audience to laugh at. Holly even thinks he has learning difficulty. Shows often wind up being a victim of their own success.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
The only show I can think of to escape this is Always Sunny. The characters descend further and further into mania and ridicule, but it's actually very entertaining to watch as they go off the deep end.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
I've watched the vast majority of simpsons episodes (including the new ones) and I find it hard to say what exactly is wrong with the new episodes. Too clean maybe? The animation is definitely off. It lacks the razor sharp wit it once had.
SuperEpicMan
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I haven't finished the show yet, but I can see how it could work.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Conan left, Brad Bird left, John Swartzwelder left, and most importantly, Sam Simon left.
Bang on. The link is absolutely on-point.
I've argued for years to people that what made the early simpsons great compared to the last 20 odd seasons was it's heart, and most of my favourite episodes are based around that.
My favourite example to show this is to consider the amount of character moments that make up the famous Springfield gorge joke: Homer teaching Bart how it feels to see someone you care about risk their life and saying how he's never felt as close as he does to him right now just as he's easing away down the ramp, to how he goes from fear in mid-air to Euphoria and hope at the possibility of clearing it just before the fall.
Nowadays Homer would just go down the ramp and fall, because...you know, that's the joke SMH.
I've argued for years to people that what made the early simpsons great compared to the last 20 odd seasons was it's heart, and most of my favourite episodes are based around that.
My favourite example to show this is to consider the amount of character moments that make up the famous Springfield gorge joke: Homer teaching Bart how it feels to see someone you care about risk their life and saying how he's never felt as close as he does to him right now just as he's easing away down the ramp, to how he goes from fear in mid-air to Euphoria and hope at the possibility of clearing it just before the fall.
Nowadays Homer would just go down the ramp and fall, because...you know, that's the joke SMH.
Infernostew
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Yeah. This happened in his One Piece video where he was saying that it was losing popularity by comparing volumes sold a few years ago to present. In theory, this is a great way to gauge popularity but he didn't take into consideration that the Mainford arc was coming to an end and a whole new era of One Piece was starting up. This lead to a lot of people picking up older volumes of the series. Volume 1 was in like the top 10 manga sold that month. So the current volumes weren't not selling as much but people were actually buying more One Piece than usual. His research is usually pretty good but he tends to gloss over bit of information that sometime tend to ruin his argument.
whitemex88
Member
Jesus. Lol. Yeah that's what I saw.
this is a great episode.
Skellig Gra
Member
All the best writers left. Not rocket science. Without good writing comedy is nothing.
After Futurama came back from Hiatus, it was different; it leaned a lot harder on pop-culture reference jokes, like the cat episode and the social media dare episode, and in general took a bit more of a family-guy style humor than before. The quality drop wasn't nearly as bad as the Simpsons, but it's noticeable.