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Gran Turismo Sport Previews

- Real Tracks

Interlagos
Brands Hatch
Nurburgring
Mount Panorama
Suzuka
Willow Springs

- Original

Alsace Village
Dragon Trail
Lago Maggiore
BB Raceway
Kyoto Driving Park
Blue Moon Bay
Northern Isle Speedway

- Rally

Colorado Springs
Fisherman's Ranch
Sardegna Windmills

- City

Tokyo Expressway
If true, that's very underwhelming...

How does it compare to the Project Cars 2 track list? It'll be interesting to see how the car lists and track lists compare between those two games. I fully expect GTS to look far better, control (on a controller) leagues better, and be far more polished, but I think PC2 will probably sound way better (this one is pretty important for me), it'll have dynamic weather/time of day/track conditions/seasons, etc., and it'll have a meaty single player experience too. It's going to be an interesting showdown.
 

Zaki2407

Member
One thing that still bother me is why do they have to re-do the car models for this game? Can they just use the old 3d models and upgrade it some way? Or are there some technical reasons that the old PS3 3d models cannot work in PS4 environment so they have to make new models for the later game? Can anyone with a 3d programming background explain this issue?
 
Seems like the track list is now complete then. According to the official website there's only 17 locations.

- Real Tracks

Interlagos
Brands Hatch
Nurburgring
Mount Panorama
Suzuka
Willow Springs

- Original

Alsace Village
Dragon Trail
Lago Maggiore
BB Raceway
Kyoto Driving Park
Blue Moon Bay
Northern Isle Speedway

- Rally

Colorado Springs
Fisherman's Ranch
Sardegna Windmills

- City

Tokyo Expressway


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No Laguna Seca?
 
How does this compare to Project Cars 2 anyone know? Thinking maybe get Project Cars 2 and get GT 7 (not Sport) when that one releases
Apparently PC2 has 50 locations to GTS's 17. From what I've seen the PC2 tracks don't look nearly as good as the GTS ones, although PC2 does have dynamic weather and time of day, as well as seasonal variants for each track.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
Well my son is willing to pay half for this as I’ve been hesitant to his hints about it (mainly because of the seeming lack of SP content and MP focus). So I guess I’m getting it after all, but PCars 2 may be my escape road if GT doesn’t scratch that particular itch.

Tracks are bad too. Hopefully they plan to roll out free DLC consistently. No Laguna Seca, no Spa, no Monza are personal disappointments. Suzuka is good though (honestly don’t give a crap for the fawned over Nurburgring)
 

Neith

Banned
That track list is embarrassing. Project Cars 2 and Forza 7 will blow this game away.

Fuck Microsoft and keeping Forza 7 behind the Windows store and Win 10. I seriously hate the company for stuff like this. Forza 7 has an amazing car list. But I think GT can being its own flavor too.

I long ago stopped caring because the team is too slow.
 
Tracks are bad too. Hopefully they plan to roll out free DLC consistently. No Laguna Seca, no Spa, no Monza are personal disappointments. Suzuka is good though (honestly don’t give a crap for the fawned over Nurburgring)
Yeah there have to be more coming via DLC (I'm assuming paid). No Le Mans is pretty weird, in addition to the tracks you listed.
 

Sebmugi

Member
Luckily it is not the size that counts...
For day one content is well enough to take care of online .. the rest of the cars and circuits will follow,let's hope so..
 
Seems like the track list is now complete then. According to the official website there's only 17 locations...

Jesus, that is dire. GT Sport is almost looking closer to a yearly Need for Speed sequel than a proper racing sim in terms of content. I don't understand how this is even possible given the budget and development time Polyphony Digital gets to work with.
 

magawolaz

Member
Have they said anything in regards to dedicated servers?
There are dedicated servers for Sport mode. I even believe the beta had them, but they were located in America, that's why us Europeans had almost twice the ping.
I read that, later on, the ping got better.. but never got around to play again.

Another puzzling video from Sony/PD

Released 3 videos today and the main one showcasing PSVR again shows more than just a 1 v 1 race

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUG5cUjcy8g

I wonder if it's 1 v 1 online racing and multiple cars offline? I just don't get the confusing marketing for this.
I wouldn't hold my breath, it looks like those scenes were taken by rotating the right stick... they were probably too lazy to take actual footage (which would have also been deformed/low quality).
 

Neo 007

Member
After looking at that Track list...(if true)
I have to ask....What the FUCK have PD been doing for nearly 5 years???
 

danowat

Banned
Another puzzling video from Sony/PD

Released 3 videos today and the main one showcasing PSVR again shows more than just a 1 v 1 race

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUG5cUjcy8g

I wonder if it's 1 v 1 online racing and multiple cars offline? I just don't get the confusing marketing for this.

I'm sure this was covered earlier in the thread, that PSVR is limited to a standalone 1 v 1 racing mode offline.

edit : yup

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=245273436&postcount=941
 
Would've expected Spa as it's a fairly new track for GT. Can't believe Circuit de la Sarthe (Le Mans) is not there for online racing.

That can't be the track list.
 
Yeah I know it's always been touted as 1 v 1 which is pretty disappointing but then we also have this video which clearly shows a PSVR headset being used and more than one car on track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2vhH_h1m2Y

I know it's offscreen and I can still see some pretty bad LOD popping in, but that doesn't look too bad at all.

Perhaps things have changed regarding VR but they weren't 100% sure they could offer more than 1v1, or maybe VR is accessible in more modes on PS4P?
 
Huh, so it does.

What does "images reformated for non vr display" mean?

Yeah which makes me wonder what's going on with the marketing and maybe the online is possibly just 1 v 1 and offline more. Who knows :-/

As for what does it mean, I have no idea on that really. maybe boosted in clarity. Not a clue!
 

Patrick S.

Banned
Fuck Microsoft and keeping Forza 7 behind the Windows store and Win 10. I seriously hate the company for stuff like this. Forza 7 has an amazing car list. But I think GT can being its own flavor too.

I long ago stopped caring because the team is too slow.

So you pay once for the game, and get to play it on console AND PC for one single price, and that warrants a "fuck you" for Microsoft from you? I guess you'll play GT Sport on Windows 7 then? Oh, wait, you won't.
 
So you pay once for the game, and get to play it on console AND PC for one single price, and that warrants a "fuck you" for Microsoft from you? I guess you'll play GT Sport on Windows 7 then? Oh, wait, you won't.

Yeah quite a random rant, can only assume poster would prefer something like a steam version rather than Windows Store and a forced upgrade to 10 if wanting to play.
 

KORNdoggy

Member
Huh, so it does.

What does "images reformated for non vr display" mean?

it just means they've taken one eye's worth of information, sorted out the weird distortion that happens in the headset and output it so it can display on a 2D screen. basically how social viewing works with the breakout box.
 

danowat

Banned
it just means they've taken one eye's worth of information, sorted out the weird distortion that happens in the headset and output it so it can display on a 2D screen. basically how social viewing works with the breakout box.

That's pretty standard when they're using VR images as the VR headset uses two curved images.

EDIT:
This is Gear VR, but it gives you an idea what it would look like if they didn't "reformat" it.

Gotcha, cheers.

If the VR mode is more than 1v1 I may be interested in getting a PSVR afterall.
 

Patrick S.

Banned
Yeah quite a random rant, can only assume poster would prefer something like a steam version rather than Windows Store and a forced upgrade to 10 if wanting to play.

I mean, Microsoft is still a business. It needs SOME kind of incentive for not forcing you to buy an Xbox if you want to play Forza Gears Halo. Instead of forcing you to buy an Xbox, they'll let you play on PC but make it exclusive to the one OS they have literally given for free to millions of people. Complaining about any of this seems very... thankless?
 

Rellik

Member
I mean, Microsoft is still a business. It needs SOME kind of incentive for not forcing you to buy an Xbox if you want to play Forza Gears Halo. Instead of forcing you to buy an Xbox, they'll let you play on PC but make it exclusive to the one OS they have literally given for free to millions of people. Complaining about any of this seems very... thankless?

It's also exclusive to a shitty store that doesn't work for many of us. And that's why I can no longer play Forza.
 

Patrick S.

Banned
It's also exclusive to a shitty store that doesn't work for many of us. And that's why I can no longer play Forza.

Yeah, the MS store is shitty, no doubt about that.

But, anecdotally of course, I'm among the lucky few who never had a problem with downloading anything from it. /me touches wood.
 
Rotfl did they blame that on lost in translation yet? I swear it's the best method to get away with almost every lie.
How is it a lie? The campaign takes a lot of time and effort to 100%...there is a bunch of content there.

You may not be interested in scapes, but again, this will probably be a selling point for some and a community based around it. Lots of people will spend time here.

All that museum history stuff, Arcade races, and getting all the cars available.

It may not be traditional, but it is meaty and some people will likely enjoy trying to get Gold Medals on everything long before they head online to the tougher races, I know I will.
 

xrnzaaas

Member
Yeah it's a deliberate lie because having a game with 85% of the modes being the offline ones doesn't equal to GTS suddenly becoming a 85% offline experience. I fully realize that some people will really enjoy the already announced SP content and will buy the game on day1, but online still is the main focus and trying to spin this to look different is nothing more than wanting to get more pre-orders from offline folks.
 
Yeah it's a deliberate lie because having a game with 85% of the modes being the offline ones doesn't equal to GTS suddenly becoming a 85% offline experience. I fully realize that some people will really enjoy the already announced SP content and will buy the game on day1, but online still is the main focus and trying to spin this to look different is nothing more than wanting to get more pre-orders from offline folks.
Yeah I'm gonna say agree to disagee here. Sport may be the focus, doesn't mean there isn't a significant portion of the game that is offline which is what the PR states. It's not a lie, the PR does not fit the definition. Even if it wasn't genuine, it is simply not a lie as you call it, that is just math lol.
 

farisr

Member
Yeah I'm gonna say agree to disagee here. Sport may be the focus, doesn't mean there isn't a significant portion of the game that is offline which is what the PR states. It's not a lie, the PR does not fit the definition. Even if it wasn't genuine, it is simply not a lie as you call it, that is just math lol.
We should be able to agree that it is however misleading, whether intentional or not, especially with the word "experience" being used. All of us here know (and they have previously also stated) that the game is focused on the Sport mode (which is online) and the vast majority of its intended experience is for that online portion of the game. Nearly the whole campaign mode is designed to prepare you for online as well.
 
We should be able to agree that it is however misleading, whether intentional or not, especially with the word "experience" being used. All of us here know (and they have previously also stated) that the game is focused on the Sport mode (which is online) and the vast majority of its intended experience is for that online portion of the game. Nearly the whole campaign mode is designed to prepare you for online as well.
Sure...PR gonna PR and try to make their game sound as good as it can be.
 
Why is everyone acting surprised? We all knew this was the track list and now its only a formality.

I imagine People Will have breakdowns once they find out that carrer Mode really is Just a bunch of challenges that can be completed in a few hours and that dlc Will deliver at most a couple of dozen cars and four or five tracks.

Game is horrible in terms of content, considering the competition and the time it took to have a ps4 game.
 

offshore

Member
Game is horrible in terms of content, considering the competition and the time it took to have a ps4 game.
Horrible isn't even the right word. Many of us previously bought into the whole "6 month to model a car" stuff and PD obsessing over every little detail; but now it's kinda like, you've got to ask... is that really the right approach? Dreadful car list, dreadful track list, with confusion continuing over the offline/online focus.

I don't know what happened to PD, but really, ever since the PS3 came out, they've never been quite the same developer.
 
Why is everyone acting surprised? We all knew this was the track list and now its only a formality.

I imagine People Will have breakdowns once they find out that carrer Mode really is Just a bunch of challenges that can be completed in a few hours and that dlc Will deliver at most a couple of dozen cars and four or five tracks.

Game is horrible in terms of content, considering the competition and the time it took to have a ps4 game.

I'm pretty sure the Campaign mode will take way longer than just a few hours. The older licence tests were really hardcore, especially trying to get all golds and I doubt GT Sport will make it an easy task to complete everything in only a few hours, as the whole point of it is to make you good at the game because it's designed to be hard.

Also if the game sells well, who's to say they don't have multiple season passes, with lots of tracks and cars being added over time and maybe other modes and features too ?

People seem to be so obsessed with what's not in the game but what if the content that is in the game is still awesome ? Quality over quantity and all that.

Having played the beta, I know the game still plays fantastic, like it always does, so it's certainly not all doom and gloom. I'm actually looking forward to playing this because it's trying something different, not just doing the same old thing again, like every other racing game.
 

farisr

Member
I'm pretty sure the Campaign mode will take way longer than just a few hours. The older licence tests were really hardcore, especially trying to get all golds and I doubt GT Sport will make it an easy task to complete everything in only a few hours, as the whole point of it is to make you good at the game because it's designed to be hard.

Also if the game sells well, who's to say they don't have multiple season passes, with lots of tracks and cars being added over time and maybe other modes and features too ?

People seem to be so obsessed with what's not in the game but what if the content that is in the game is still awesome ? Quality over quantity and all that.

Having played the beta, I know the game still plays fantastic, like it always does, so it's certainly not all doom and gloom. I'm actually looking forward to playing this because it's trying something different, not just doing the same old thing again, like every other racing game.
They've already shown some things from the campaign and it is very along the lines of what past GT games' license tests had in mind, so it's easy to guess how the rest of the missions turn out. I loved the license tests in the past games, but only as a starting point, not as the meat of the campaign.

So no, it's actually pretty easy to tell whether you're going to like this game or not already. It's all a matter of personal preference.

Also this whole "whose to say" stuff is silly, and we've already had this discussion before in this very thread even yet again you fall back to it in an attempt to somehow sway people over with potential scenarios of adding in modes if the game sells well and what not. Cars, yes. Tracks, probably. Modes, no idea whatsoever, maybe new online modes sure, but for folks that are interested in more offline stuff, the game selling well could actually make it more likely that those won't be worked on.

This game selling well as it is would indicate to PD that the direction they've chosen to go with this game is the right one, and that direction is less offline content and more online focus. It's actually the opposite, the game not selling as well as they expected could result in them reevaluating what went wrong and the complaints that people had.

TLDR:

-If you think the GT driving model, the cars/tracks featured, the license tests, arcade mode, photo mode/scapes and online racing are enough, get this game.
-If the car & track selection is the main issue you have with this game, then hold off on buying the game and maybe wait. More cars will undoubtedly be added and possibly tracks too but wait it out and see if what they add appeals to you.
-If campaign, the length and structure, in past GT games matters a lot and is what makes a GT game to you, buying this game is not going to help.
-DO NOT buy the game if you're disappointed with the content on display here, and definitely DO NOT BUY based on hypothetical scenarios of what the developer could potentially add in or not when they have made no outright promises or detailed what post-launch content would exactly entail.
 
Also if the game sells well, who's to say they don't have multiple season passes, with lots of tracks and cars being added over time and maybe other modes and features too ?

People seem to be so obsessed with what's not in the game but what if the content that is in the game is still awesome ? Quality over quantity and all that.

I'd say that, perhaps more than any other genre, quantity absolutely is important in racing sims. I mean, of the three racing sims coming out in the next few months, we can pretty much take it for granted that they're all going to have excellent driving physics models. To me, the difference basically boils down to which cars I'm going to be driving on which tracks and in what gameplay modes, and one game clearly comes up short in all three of those areas.

Seventeen tracks is seventeen tracks; I know what that means regardless of how good the tracks are. I've played games that are short on tracks, and I don't stick with them long because it just gets boring doing the same thing over and over. Same thing with car counts. Less content means less gameplay variety means less interest. And no, I'm not going to go buying multiple season passes on top of a $60 game to bring the content up to par.
 

jett

D-Member
Seems like the track list is now complete then. According to the official website there's only 17 locations.

- Real Tracks

Interlagos
Brands Hatch
Nurburgring
Mount Panorama
Suzuka
Willow Springs

- Original

Alsace Village
Dragon Trail
Lago Maggiore
BB Raceway
Kyoto Driving Park
Blue Moon Bay
Northern Isle Speedway

- Rally

Colorado Springs
Fisherman's Ranch
Sardegna Windmills

- City

Tokyo Expressway


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What have they been doing for four years.

Four years on this.
 

Niks

Member
What have they been doing for four years.

Four years on this.


Remember Squarenix comments a few years ago on making HD towns? Yeahh, PD are still stuck on that.

Making HD tracks is hard man.

- Original

Alsace Village
Dragon Trail
Lago Maggiore
BB Raceway
Kyoto Driving Park
Blue Moon Bay
Northern Isle Speedway

Also I find it ironic that for a game that boasts about being FIA sanctioned, most of its tracks are fantasy. lmao
 
I'll just wait for impressions post-release on both GTS and PC2, and decide which one to get based on that. I'm still leaning towards GTS if there's enough content, the NetCode works in my region, and audio is actually fixed.
 

Celcius

°Temp. member
Seems like the track list is now complete then. According to the official website there's only 17 locations.

- Real Tracks

Interlagos
Brands Hatch
Nurburgring
Mount Panorama
Suzuka
Willow Springs

- Original

Alsace Village
Dragon Trail
Lago Maggiore
BB Raceway
Kyoto Driving Park
Blue Moon Bay
Northern Isle Speedway

- Rally

Colorado Springs
Fisherman's Ranch
Sardegna Windmills

- City

Tokyo Expressway

No Seattle Circuit? Trial Mountain? Special Stage R-anything? Deep Forest Raceway?
hmm, this may impact my purchasing decision as I'm considering getting a ps4 just for this
 
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