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One that I just remembered is David Sutcliffe for his behavior when he starred in Cracked. He was upset because he thought his co-star was getting too much screen time, so he had her fired which torpedoed the show.
 
Here's a question, after reading every page of this thread and feeling kind of dazed: who among the YouTube gamer personalities are like.... completely unabashed good guys?

I feel pretty good about Game Grumps (post Jon), John Wolfe (formerly Harshly Critical) and Mr. Kravin. Poking around their twitters, they all seem like pretty chill dudes.
 

moggio

Banned
James Rolfe (AVGN/Cinemassacre).

But Mike tho'.

Also they had AlphaOmegaSin on their channel during GG which was... unwise/thoughtless.

I get the feeling that James really doesn't have much of a clue though and it's mostly Mike steering the ship.

Also RIP Bootsy.
 

L Thammy

Member
Here's a question, after reading every page of this thread and feeling kind of dazed: who among the YouTube gamer personalities are like.... completely unabashed good guys?

I feel pretty confident that the folks at Retsupurae (and a lot of other early Something Awful Let's Players) have grown up a lot, and are now swell people. Since the whole channel is about riffing on things, it even comes through in some of the things they choose to riff on:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnJXSWfT04M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqNGTJmqvQE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsoKfZ09EJY
 

Altazor

Member
Here's a question, after reading every page of this thread and feeling kind of dazed: who among the YouTube gamer personalities are like.... completely unabashed good guys?

as I said earlier, EpicNameBro seems like a good, tolerant guy. Hope he doesn't become a milkshake duck for me, I'd be sad :(
 
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I don't like Rich Stanton but I don't like TB a lot more, so...let them fight lol. "Anniversary" of a harassment campaign, goddamnit.
 

JCHandsom

Member
He's great but I sometimes worry that he almost seems unwilling to have an opinion on any social element of video games. I love his stuff and I just want my concerns answered but I remember at the height of gg he never said anything pro or against and silence is to accept the oppression.

I get that sometimes, but I'm willing to believe that he doesn't want to talk about it simply because that's not the focus of his videos. His silence makes him better than A LOT of other gamer personalities on Youtube, sad as that may seem.

Also, Bob Chipman (Moviebob) does a lot of gaming related stuff and he is an outspoken progressive. I find his opinion on games (particularly modern games) to be overly backwards looking (pretty much everything was better back in the Bit eras) and sometimes I think he's just plain out of his depth (He caught some flack on Twitter for confusing Dark Souls with Skyrim and challenging people to name a "good" FPS that's not Half Life), but if you want someone who is assuredly not a milkshake duck, there's another one.
 

PixelatedBookake

Junior Member
Apparently this is from her Twitter before she deleted it:
"TB is an undeniably large creator. Whether you like him or not there's value in looking at his methods of community moderation."

Reminds me of Boogie2988 during the Jontron case
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Disappointed in Laura.

I've seen that gif before and thought it was stupid but I didn't know it was about the JonTron fiasco. What the fuck?!? This guy is garbage
 

JCHandsom

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As a followup to that, George actually appeared on the SBFP podcast and said that he had lost some subscribers due to people not getting the joke (not a lot, but enough that he mentioned it in passing) and SBFP backed off from it after that I believe.

EDIT: Actually I think it was their joke "X pissed me off, I'm unsubscribing from Superbunnyhop in protest!" that he mentioned and they backed off from. I do think they backed off on the blackface jokes since then though.
 

sasliquid

Member
I get that sometimes, but I'm willing to believe that he doesn't want to talk about it simply because that's not the focus of his videos. His silence makes him better than A LOT of other gamer personalities on Youtube, sad as that may seem.

Also, Bob Chipman (Moviebob) does a lot of gaming related stuff and he is an outspoken progressive. I find his opinion on games (particularly modern games) to be overly backwards looking (pretty much everything was better back in the Bit eras) and sometimes I think he's just plain out of his depth (He caught some flack on Twitter for confusing Dark Souls with Skyrim and challenging people to name a "good" FPS that's not Half Life), but if you want someone who is assuredly not a milkshake duck, there's another one.

Eh as a leftist how often he went to bat for Hillary doesn't exactly endear me to him but that's nothing to hate him over.

I've never rated his gaming content. I still watch his film stuff but I disagree with a lot of it and wish h didn't feel the need I bring up Batman vs Superman in every bloody review.
 

Oberon

Banned
He's great but I sometimes worry that he almost seems unwilling to have an opinion on any social element of video games. I love his stuff and I just want my concerns answered but I remember at the height of gg he never said anything pro or against and silence is to accept the oppression.

He also made that awful Dark souls 2 critic which people took as gosple. It was really badly thought out compared to his other content.
 

moggio

Banned
I've not heard a peep from TB for quite a while on account of muting the cunt on every platform possible.

I'm glad to see his plan of avoiding drama has been a big success.
 

JCHandsom

Member
He also made that awful Dark souls 2 critic which people took as gosple. It was really badly thought out compared to his other content.

I mean that's not really a milkshake duck thing, that's just a controversial opinion piece about a game he doesn't like.
 

sasliquid

Member
What a piece of shit. The victims of GG remember it all damn well, but because he wasn't directly impacted by it he feels the right to say "no one remembers". Fuck you, TB.

The implication as well that the people who cared that gg happened and suffered under it are insane.

Remember when he one best gamer or something at the game awards the same year? Man this industry props up some really nasty people

He also made that awful Dark souls 2 critic which people took as gosple. It was really badly thought out compared to his other content.

I actually agree with a lot of it but the way he reviews games is very "objective" which i suppose why some people follow it blindly
 

NateDrake

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The implication as well that the people who cared that gg happened and suffered under it are insane.

Remember when he one best gamer or something at the game awards the same year? Man this industry props up some really nasty people



I actually agree with a lot of it but the way he reviews games is very "objective" which i suppose why some people follow it blindly

I knew Boogie won that type award one year, but TB won as well? If so, then that award is a joke.
 

Catvoca

Banned
Voidburger
Chip Cheezum
MrBTounge
Raycevik
Matthewmatosis
Noah Caldwell Gervais
Joseph Anderson
Dan and James (Extra Credits)
Dan Olson (Folding Ideas: does movie stuff as well)
Chris Franklin (Errant Signal)
Ian Danskin (Innuendo Studios)
George Weidman (Superbunnyhop)


YMMV in terms of game opinions, style, format, and content, but I'm subscribed to all of them and they seem on the ball.

Gotta include the retsupurae guys along with Voidburger and chip + Ironicus

I knew Boogie won that type award one year, but TB won as well? If so, then that award is a joke.
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I've seen that gif before and thought it was stupid but I didn't know it was about the JonTron fiasco. What the fuck?!? This guy is garbage
Oh, is that gif not parody?

I assumed that guy was poking fun at people that say "let's meet in the middle!" about ridiculous topics like slavery or racism where there definitely ISN'T a middle ground between right and wrong.
 
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Seeing as GG is one of the origins of the alt-right, TB is pretty clearly trying to escape any sort of personal responsibility. You can also see it in that "shoulder-to-shoulder" tweet. He's a weasel.

Also this was the tweet that he (and others) thinks is somehow pro-harassment...
 

Kinsei

Banned
Oh, is that gif not parody?

I assumed that guy was poking fun at people that say "let's meet in the middle!" about ridiculous topics like slavery or racism where there definitely ISN'T a middle ground between right and wrong.

Nope. He was 100% serious asking people to meet in the middle with a white supremacist.
 

Bahorel

Member
She's deleted it now but earlier today Laura Kate Dale tweeted that TB had decided to cut all professional and personal ties with her for going along with the apology. Wonder if that changed or she just doesn't want the tweet public anymore.
 

moggio

Banned
She's deleted it now but earlier today Laura Kate Dale tweeted that TB had decided to cut all professional and personal ties with her for going along with the apology. Wonder if that changed or she just doesn't want the tweet public anymore.

TB threatened to sue her.

I don't think they're friends any more.
 

sasliquid

Member
TB threatened to sue her.

I don't think they're friends any more.

Tbf he's since said they're talking and that he doesn't think they should be friends anymore for her own safety cos of the "toxic" people she surrounds herself with

Which I'm pretty sure is a common abuse tactic
 

L Thammy

Member
On Boogie. He's been doing this meet-in-the-middle shtick for a while.

Early on in the height of Gamergate, Boogie was defending them on GAF, but when faced with arguments he'd just talk about how depressed he was over the whole situation and how wanted to kill himself. Since even prior to Gamergate he's talked about how he was overeating as an attempt to kill himself, it was believable. The interpretation I had - and I think some other people shared it - was that Boogie lacked the emotional health to handle the situation, so he did it in an overly naive way.

But after that, he kept in contact with Gamergate people and kept on defending them. So obviously this wasn't so painful that he couldn't involve himself. At that point, I had to wonder if this whole thing wasn't a front to hide that he totally supported them, and he didn't bring up his depression to try to shut down the conversation.

Either way, I don't think it's the standard case of a both side defense. He isn't just a dumb guy just trying to sound smart at any rate.
 
The implication as well that the people who cared that gg happened and suffered under it are insane.

Remember when he one best gamer or something at the game awards the same year? Man this industry props up some really nasty people

Over Jeff Gerstmann, no less! One of the best persons in the games industry!

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Jeff Gerstmann is my reverse milkshake duck. I thought his cynically and wearily funny attitude would mean he'd be a bit more conservative. Turns out he's quite progressive, like when he talked about Battlefield Hardline in relation to police militarisation and Ferguson. Or when he called out Palmer Lucky of Oculus as a racist way before anyone else ("Vice president of memes? Vice president of racism, more like it"). Or how he invites all kinds of guests for E3 podcasts (LGBT, POC) and makes them almost personalities (e.g. Samantha Kalman) in the usually quite white and male gaming sphere.
 

Loxley

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Over Jeff Gerstmann, no less! One of the best persons in the games industry!

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Jeff Gerstmann is my reverse milkshake duck. I thought his cynically and wearily funny attitude would mean he'd be a bit more conservative. Turns out he's quite progressive, like when he talked about Battlefield Hardline in relation to police militarisation and Ferguson. Or when he called out Palmer Lucky of Oculus as a racist way before anyone else ("Vice president of memes? Vice president of racism, more like it"). Or how he invites all kinds of guests for E3 podcasts (LGBT, POC) and makes them almost personalities (e.g. Samantha Kalman) in the usually quite white and male gaming sphere.

Jeff also came out publicly against the Muslim ban on Twitter as well. Dude's good people.
 
On Boogie. He's been doing this meet-in-the-middle shtick for a while.

Early on in the height of Gamergate, Boogie was defending them on GAF, but when faced with arguments he'd just talk about how depressed he was over the whole situation and how wanted to kill himself. Since even prior to Gamergate he's talked about how he was overeating as an attempt to kill himself, it was believable. The interpretation I had - and I think some other people shared it - was that Boogie lacked the emotional health to handle the situation, so he did it in an overly naive way.

But after that, he kept in contact with Gamergate people and kept on defending them. So obviously this wasn't so painful that he couldn't involve himself. At that point, I had to wonder if this whole thing wasn't a front to hide that he totally supported them, and he didn't bring up his depression to try to shut down the conversation.

Either way, I don't think it's the standard case of a both side defense. He isn't just a dumb guy just trying to sound smart at any rate.

He also had a recent video a few weeks ago about AngryJoe's latest drama with his fans and at some point mentioned JonTron and at one point in the video saying he misses him:

https://youtu.be/jfDauRUxIhk?t=405

"We miss ya Jon, upload soon buddy"
 

DemWalls

Member
He also made that awful Dark souls 2 critic which people took as gosple. It was really badly thought out compared to his other content.

I find the way he once mentioned "DS II apologists" quite amusing. Probably it's just me, but that wording makes me think that in his mind liking DS II is a crime :lol:
Not a milkshake duck though, I suppose I can say I'm immune to it.
 

Akuun

Looking for meaning in GAF
I'm swimming in milkshake ducks. It feels like every time I like something, that person or organization turns out to be on the Secret Council of Eating Babies or something, or joins them eventually.

- Yogscast
- TB
- MoonMoon
- Oculus
- Jim Carrey
- JonTron
- Konami
- Square-Enix
- Nestle

aaand moreee
 

BTA

Member
Over Jeff Gerstmann, no less! One of the best persons in the games industry!

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Jeff Gerstmann is my reverse milkshake duck. I thought his cynically and wearily funny attitude would mean he'd be a bit more conservative. Turns out he's quite progressive, like when he talked about Battlefield Hardline in relation to police militarisation and Ferguson. Or when he called out Palmer Lucky of Oculus as a racist way before anyone else ("Vice president of memes? Vice president of racism, more like it"). Or how he invites all kinds of guests for E3 podcasts (LGBT, POC) and makes them almost personalities (e.g. Samantha Kalman) in the usually quite white and male gaming sphere.

As a side note, it's still bizarre to me how people try to rope Jeff being fired into a GG-related ethics thing. In the comments of the post about TB on Kotaku there was even someone talking about how GG happened "not long after" he was fired for a review etc. etc. And uh. That was 7 years, bud.

Anyway, I'd say that Alex (and to some extent Rorie?) were my reverses? I hadn't seen much with them before GG happened but Alex sometimes came across as edgy in a way that made me wary of him and Rorie seemed sorta similar. But Alex speaking up, and Rorie's moderation work, when GG started meant a lot to me and it's abundantly clear by now where Alex stands on things (and he's probably the GB member I identify with the most in a lot of ways), so.

EDIT: I do think it's worth noting that he doesn't usually handle inviting people for E3 though. I believe Alex does it currently; might have been Brad (or Austin?) before.
 
As a side note, it's still bizarre to me how people try to rope Jeff being fired into a GG-related ethics thing. In the comments of the post about TB on Kotaku there was even someone talking about how GG happened "not long after" he was fired for a review etc. etc. And uh. That was 7 years, bud.

Anyway, I'd say that Alex (and to some extent Rorie?) were my reverses? I hadn't seen much with them before GG happened but Alex sometimes came across as edgy in a way that made me wary of him and Rorie seemed sorta similar. But Alex speaking up, and Rorie's moderation work, when GG started meant a lot to me and it's abundantly clear by now where Alex stands on things (and he's probably the GB member I identify with the most in a lot of ways), so.

Alex is the best. In last year's Giant Bomb GOTY deliberations, he made the best case of why Palmer Luckey and his dumbass Drumpf alt-right meme funding ass should have been awarded Hottest Mess of 2016. That was the same year with the dumpster fire launches of No Man's Sky and Street Fighter V, too!

Also want to give a special shout-out to Dan for being anything but a Milkshake Duck despite his Midwest upbringing and his stubbornness (mayo won't kill you, Dan.). He also called out the Muslim ban when it dropped early this year.
 

UCBooties

Member
As a side note, it's still bizarre to me how people try to rope Jeff being fired into a GG-related ethics thing. In the comments of the post about TB on Kotaku there was even someone talking about how GG happened "not long after" he was fired for a review etc. etc. And uh. That was 7 years, bud.

Anyway, I'd say that Alex (and to some extent Rorie?) were my reverses? I hadn't seen much with them before GG happened but Alex sometimes came across as edgy in a way that made me wary of him and Rorie seemed sorta similar. But Alex speaking up, and Rorie's moderation work, when GG started meant a lot to me and it's abundantly clear by now where Alex stands on things (and he's probably the GB member I identify with the most in a lot of ways), so.

Gaters try to yoke Jeff Gerstman to their cause in a deliberate attempt to muddy the timeline of how the movement started (as a harassment campaign) and imply that they have noble goals in responding to his firing. It's the same reason you'll see Gaters claim that Zoe Quinn was only a minor figure in the controversy who was latched onto by their opposition. Never mind that the whole goddamn thing started as a harassment campaign against her.
 
Gaters try to yoke Jeff Gerstman to their cause in a deliberate attempt to muddy the timeline of how the movement started (as a harassment campaign) and imply that they have noble goals in responding to his firing. It's the same reason you'll see Gaters claim that Zoe Quinn was only a minor figure in the controversy who was latched onto by their opposition. Never mind that the whole goddamn thing started as a harassment campaign against her.

IIRC, one gator prick tried guilting Jeff onto their side by claiming Ryan would have if he was still alive.
 
+1 for Douglas TenNapel here. I played Earthworm Jim growing up, found out he made some graphic novels and scooped them up.... then found out what a shitbag he was.
 
Boogie always came off to me as a dude who did everything in his power to emotionally manipulate people to be on his side, so the "let's meet in the middle" thing does not surprise me.
 

Complex Shadow

Cudi Lame™
IIRC, one gator prick tried guilting Jeff onto their side by claiming Ryan would have if he was still alive.
I think I am gonna be sick.

Jeff also came out publicly against the Muslim ban on Twitter as well. Dude's good people.
you know I ve always wondered what "side"
[because there are very good people on both side] /s
gb were on, because they're always seem to avoid talking about anything outside of gaming. but its honestly heartening know they're good people.
 
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