Risible
Member
My new favorite.
I refuse to believe this is real. There's NO. WAY.
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I refuse to believe this is real. There's NO. WAY.
SurrenderDorothy
Banned
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Fuck people.
My new favorite.
I wish a motherfucker would tell me to pay them for the honor of working for them
That's the kind of thing you almost want to do, only providing the photos as heavily watermarked proofs with a hefty fee to remove it.
AtomskEater
Member
I kind of wish some people would take on these requests mostly to be able to report back how it went down and also fuck with whoever is ridiculous enough to ask someone to do this.
Like maybe have one or two decent photos but they become progressively worse, unfocused, and eventually end up being of the wall or the ground or something.
"Sorry, not being able to eat or rest all day really got to me."
Edit: and yeah with watermarks so they can't even use the decent ones.
Reading this made me rage. I got married last year and I would never treat my photographer or any vendor like this. My photographer ate at the cocktail hour AND the reception AND we paid her. I can't even believe someone would type some shit like this and expect a response from a professional. They specifically said no amatuers so what exactly were they expecting.
perfectchaos007
Member
If elder generations are wondering why Millennials are "killing" everything, well we can't exactly keep anything alive without being paid in real money
I cater 2-4 weddings a week, Receptions, plating, buffets, hors d'oeuvres, special requests you name it.
Vendor meals are pretty much part of the package, and they'll either come through the buffet or get a separate plate.
You dont stiff the people working for you.
We've had people complain to us about the bill because they invited 10 extra people we had to accomodate at the last minute, or when they specifically stated No vegetarians and then ask for 15 Vegetarian only plates during plating. You will be charged double for every plate because food doesnt just magically appear when you want it.
Vendor meals are pretty much part of the package, and they'll either come through the buffet or get a separate plate.
You dont stiff the people working for you.
We've had people complain to us about the bill because they invited 10 extra people we had to accomodate at the last minute, or when they specifically stated No vegetarians and then ask for 15 Vegetarian only plates during plating. You will be charged double for every plate because food doesnt just magically appear when you want it.
YesThatGuy
Banned
There is a site, http://clientsfromhell.com, full of stories like that.
The same happens to fresh-out-of-college software engineers. "Oh, you know computers! Great, I want to hack my boss email, his name is John".
The same happens to fresh-out-of-college software engineers. "Oh, you know computers! Great, I want to hack my boss email, his name is John".
Plenty of people do open source though
shawnbuddy
Member
Wow, so clueless. If you can program well, you don't need exposure. You can get a job.
You grow a thick skin and once you have a good client list, stuff like this rarely happens.
But sometimes it still does (more in person with random acquaintances at parties weirdly enough).
The studio I work at has literally been asked to work on what ended up being an academy award winning film for free. All so the producer and director could project authenticity.
To be fair though, they did win an academy award for sound... maybe I shoulda said yes. Woulda been good exposure.
Honestly, people who wanna work in film seriously should at least do a few low budget indies for experience and networking. Every paying freelance gig I have ever gotten was somehow a product of the friends I made starting out doing production audio at a loss. It was worth it.
You'll know when you are ready to stop working on no-budget stuff. Even then, I have friends who make fun shit and it's just a blast to get together and make something, but in those cases at least I have some ownership.
StrangeRoboMemory
Member
This thread is too infuriating, I can't take this shit. Incredibly selfish assholes out there.
I would completely agree to their demands, have a big conversation with them setting everything in stone - then just not turn up, leaving them with no one. Fuck em.
SurrenderDorothy
Banned
That's brilliant. They get what they paid for.
"Sorry. Got a better offer. I'm sure you understand. Enjoy your event!"
TheCthultist
Member
Huh, that's really interesting. The other ones have all made me annoyed and/or laugh. This one made me legitimately want to punch someone/thing... I'm not entirely sure why my brain registered this one so much different than the others, but thats the first time I've felt a reaction like that to something this stupid in a long time... Fascinating stuff.
MercuryLS3
Junior Member
I feel for anyone in creative industries, cunts are always trying to get free work out of you guys.
OrangeAtlas
Member
...the hell is a retweet deal?
I had someone want to adapt one of my short stories. I've only ever sold two, for about $500 each. They said I could get a writing credit (no duh), and therefore, exposure.
Nope. Cash baby. Ain't nothing for free. I've also been approached to do web dev, top to bottom including the SQL, for "experience". Are you kidding me? Do people actually fall for this?
Nope. Cash baby. Ain't nothing for free. I've also been approached to do web dev, top to bottom including the SQL, for "experience". Are you kidding me? Do people actually fall for this?
Alcotholic
Banned
Yeah, these people are soulless.
Jesus, that's a lot of words for "need a slave for a day that can take pictures and we will not feed you".
StrangeRoboMemory
Member
Your reaction makes sense. These people A) are demanding a huge work schedule, 12+ hour work day; B) they are clear that they will work you to the bone; C) they won't feed you, if you're doing the gig, pay 150 bucks because the bride specifically requests no vendors can eat (the fuck?); D) you need to submit previous portfolio and references to even be considered for this treasure of an event; E) their reason is simply, "We already paid enough for the videographer, so fuck it, we don't feel we should have to pay for this."
To actually post something like this, and to think that you deserve it...you've got to have no soul, period.
God Dayumm
Banned
Freelancing in general makes you put up with this sort of shit
Sparrowhawk
Member
A girl I used to date moved to LA and actually fucking supports the whole "work for us for free, it's good for your resume" thing. She's a paid PA now (not much, especially considering it's LA) and is now the person who puts out these kinds of advertisements for free labor. It's a gross practice.
That is a fucking beautiful idea.
That is a fucking beautiful idea.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
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That one made me sad because this piece of sexist shit has a daughter hes going to be spreading his poison to.
aspaceman55
Member
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This is worth repeating.
And then sit back as these entitled cunts set out to destroy your business.
Just look at how far these pricks went: http://www.neogaf.com/forum//showthread.php?page=4&t=1415127
They trashed her on social media, got their friends and social media followers to leave bad reviews, went viral and got NBC involved. They happily destroyed her business because they either didn't read their contract properly or just believed they shouldn't pay and tried to shame her into giving up the photos for free.
The last thing you want to do is put your own business on the line just to prove a point to these awful people. You politely decline and hope you never hear from them again.
I found one you might like. Pay us $500 and you'll get to photograph for us! and take all of your photos and no exposure!
perfectchaos007
Member
I found one you might like. Pay us $500 and you'll get to photograph for us! and take all of your photos and no exposure!
The fallacy that anyone can snap a photo and photography is just a hobby in full effect.
Edit: haha holy shit Kthulhu, not sure how i missed your post!
Exactly what it sounds like. It's people pretending that retweets are a form of currency.
Welcome to 2017
Exactly what it sounds like. It's people pretending that retweets are a form of currency.
Welcome to 2017
Don't think I've ever heard of programming for exposure. When there's hundreds of billions of dollars being thrown at coders, I don't see why they would work for free.
It doesn't even make sense, most programming credit is completely obfuscated.
Exposure in a literal sense. "I'll retweet you to my X followers by posting your commission."
Brawly Likes to Brawl
Member
Most open-source projects are either hobbyist, part of non-profit societies, or done as practice. Not quite the same as random clients offering nothing as compensation.
Risible
Member
Every single time I take a photo someone likes they say "Man, I have to get a camera like that."
Everyone has a prosumer DSLR that is far better than my crappy little Canon SL1 and yet I somehow magically get better shots. It's a mystery!
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
Lol, there's even one in that thread.
BLOODED_hands
Member
I think the worst thing I hate are the people who ask for you to do shit at the very last moment. Working at OfficeMax and freelance has shown me that despite people being very well-off they don't really know about anything, like, at all. I can't count how many times I have taken orders for customers that want their shit done immediately or the day of. It's like they know we have a load order, but they give no fucks for the worker/designer.
We also have price sheets for everything we do and when we tell them it's going to be THIS much or THAT much..... Guess what their answers are? Why is it so expensive? I can get it done for so much cheaper by this person that I know..... Suuuuure.
They barely cared for putting me on the map. They just cared that they can get their shit done as fast as possible, while also looking the prettiest, and for no cost (or as little as possible). To those folks all I can say is, "bye Felicia!"
I have also ran into those folks who go, "can't you just grab something on the internet and slap it on for my flyer/business cards/logo/etc.?" 👌
We also have price sheets for everything we do and when we tell them it's going to be THIS much or THAT much..... Guess what their answers are? Why is it so expensive? I can get it done for so much cheaper by this person that I know..... Suuuuure.
They barely cared for putting me on the map. They just cared that they can get their shit done as fast as possible, while also looking the prettiest, and for no cost (or as little as possible). To those folks all I can say is, "bye Felicia!"
I have also ran into those folks who go, "can't you just grab something on the internet and slap it on for my flyer/business cards/logo/etc.?" 👌
Aaron Strife
Banned
I run a (very) small theatre company in Minneapolis and I always make sure to pay at least something. For our last show each actor got $100, our designer and stage manager got $150 (plus compensation for investments they made, costumes, props etc.) and the directors each got $200. A good friend of mine is an amateur photographer and I had her do headshots at the beginning of the rehearsal process and take snaps during our tech rehearsal, $20 each time, plus I comped her and her husband in to a performance.
This is well below anything to live on (we considered having an Equity/union actress in the cast at one point, but the standard union rates - $100 per rehearsal iirc - were way above our budget and she ended up having a conflicting schedule anyway), but there's so many community theatres that are essentially volunteer positions, and that's great but as aspiring professionals we want aspiring professionals.
You get what you pay for, and if what you're paying is nothing you ain't getting shit.
This is well below anything to live on (we considered having an Equity/union actress in the cast at one point, but the standard union rates - $100 per rehearsal iirc - were way above our budget and she ended up having a conflicting schedule anyway), but there's so many community theatres that are essentially volunteer positions, and that's great but as aspiring professionals we want aspiring professionals.
You get what you pay for, and if what you're paying is nothing you ain't getting shit.
beyond_death
Member
...I hope some of these arent real. They're infuriating. Especially that fucking wedding one.