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PoliGAF 2017 |OT5| The Man In the High Chair
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And PopGAF ain't even around to appreciate Mariah's transparent attempt to protect her chart record.
ArkhamFantasy
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Paul Ryan usually just says "he has the authority to do that" whenever trump does something dumb.
VendettaRed07
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I still don't think "do whatever you want and force democrats to prove they can make voters punish you for it" has been a bad strategy for them so far
Had they not thought like that, maybe they wouldn't have been able to just steal a SCOTUS seat. A democrat in the reverse situation would never have had the guts to pull a stunt like that especially when it seemed like they would certainly lose the up coming election at the time.
Really, democrats need to prove they can take advantage of this sort of thing if we want the fuckery to stop
Mariah heaux?
Well he did literally say at the rally the other day "I'm going to pardon a racist criminal" and most of the media went ¯\_(ツ_/¯, so he may as well have just pardoned him there.
To be fair, Trump promises tend not to be forth much so many thought the fact he didn't pardon him there meant he wasn't serious about pardoning at all.
Anyway fuck Trump and everything he stands for!
As an aside, the Obamacare fight might not be over if the GOP stars warming up to the Graham-Cassidy plan (which of course is still awful).
Mobius and pet octopus
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Trump launches full nuclear salvo against hurricane harvey citing it was invented by China.
Randolph Freelander
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SerAardvark
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Jeff Flake showing real backbone with his response:
https://twitter.com/jeffflake/status/901249192257101825
https://twitter.com/jeffflake/status/901249192257101825
Yeah, good question.
Maybe some separate questions would be better.
1) What would have to happen before you expect the Republicans to actually take steps to rein in Trump's explicit support for fascism and white supremacy? "Not until it's too late" is an acceptable answer.
2) What would have to happen before you felt a moral responsibility to take action and demand the same from your government? When will you commit to act? Is it sooner than 1?
3) What would have to happen before you felt unsafe to engage in political discourse or action?
I don't know if you could try to lose reelection harder than Flake has.
VendettaRed07
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Hopefully any elected democrats come out and call this for what it is
Trump bat signaling "I will pardon anyone who is found guilty of racist crimes against immigrants. So continue to commit them and I will have your back".
Like people did call out how he said he would pay the legal fees of anyone who assaulted protestors at his rallies. He never did that as far as I known but this is him literally doing a way worse version of that
Trump bat signaling "I will pardon anyone who is found guilty of racist crimes against immigrants. So continue to commit them and I will have your back".
Like people did call out how he said he would pay the legal fees of anyone who assaulted protestors at his rallies. He never did that as far as I known but this is him literally doing a way worse version of that
It also makes it quite clear that Trump is ready to use his pardon power to prevent anyone from going to jail for Russia-related crimes.
VendettaRed07
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I'm surprised he hasn't just done it already.
I still think the scenario I pointed out will absolutely happen.
He will pardon everyone he knows, his family, flynn, manafort, Pence.. then have Pence Pardon him on his way out. He has the ability and is morally willing to do it. I bet he will. And I see no reason as to why it won't. Fact that he is pardoning this dude randomly only 7 months in just further proves it will totally happen that way.
VendettaRed07
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Also if people who want to reassure themselves that Trump pardoning everyone related to Russia won't stop state prosecutions
This is the time to prove that it won't. If nothing happens to Arpaio after the pardon then idk why the same wouldn't be the case for whoever Trump pardons in relation to Russia
This is the time to prove that it won't. If nothing happens to Arpaio after the pardon then idk why the same wouldn't be the case for whoever Trump pardons in relation to Russia
The problem is there's no clear answer to being able to pardon himself. And people pardoned can still be compelled to testify where they have no reason to risk perjury over lying for crimes they've been pardoned over. Not sure how it is on the federal level, but second pardons can get tricky.
Mobius and pet octopus
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From what I understand the conviction was contempt of a court order by a federal judge. Chances are state courts wouldn't have jurisdiction.
Abinash117
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So I guess Mueller and other investigators should just give up.
A lifetime of Trump, our new god-emperor.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
Our best hope is he keeps eating ice cream and KFC.
aspiegamer
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Anti-Trump ads for 2020 just wrote themselves with that tweet.
Officerrob
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Seeing this made me physically ill
Autodidact
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The stress from Trump and a new school year has gotten me back to a 30-inch waist - snugly, but they still fit.
#MakeAmericaNauseatedAgain
#MakeAmericaNauseatedAgain
It's not over. They will try again.
balladofwindfishes
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Nah.
Even the healthcare CEO is confused. Also that dude on Twitter was panicking and sounding alarms every 5 minutes during the ACA repeal stuff.
Aaron Strife
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Fucking idiots. They don't care what happens to the country as long as they get their precious tax cuts.
Whatever shenanigans the GOP will engage in to pay for their tax "reform" needs to be fought hard by the Democrats. We killed ACA repeal, we can kill this too.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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I've been doing classes all summer and I haven't lost any weight.
Abinash117
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Our God-emperor is immune of such mortal flaws such as ((diabetes)) .
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
People with a knowledge of diet and health are in awe of Trump the master right now.
Autodidact
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Sardines and eggs, my dear. Your skin will glow, too.
That was my thought, too.I'm partial to the "jealous a hurricane is grabbing the headlines" theory.
Or he's naively hoping his own base-rallying bullshit will somehow keep people from noticing if Hurricane Harvey is a disaster.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
Dominican Power
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http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/dog-day-afternoon-6438729
This is the piece of shit that Trump pardoned.
This is the piece of shit that Trump pardoned.
Aaron Strife
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Arpaio pardon was expected but still disheartening all the same. At least he's 85. He'll be dead someday soon and then his freedom won't mean a thing to him.
The political catastrophe would be failing to make major inroads with governorships and losing the next presidential election, both of which would keep the next decade of gerrymandering within GOP hands.
I wouldn't be surprised if Trump didn't pardon Manafort, he and his administration have been desperately trying to pretend like they barely know the guy.
The political catastrophe would be failing to make major inroads with governorships and losing the next presidential election, both of which would keep the next decade of gerrymandering within GOP hands.
I wouldn't be surprised if Trump didn't pardon Manafort, he and his administration have been desperately trying to pretend like they barely know the guy.
SerAardvark
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McCain showed more backbone than Flake:
https://www.mccain.senate.gov/publi...eases?ID=3B0E692D-FFEB-4F6C-ADF9-C3F598E94D2A
I see Justin Amash (more of a libertarian type than a Republican) was angry too.
https://www.mccain.senate.gov/publi...eases?ID=3B0E692D-FFEB-4F6C-ADF9-C3F598E94D2A
I see Justin Amash (more of a libertarian type than a Republican) was angry too.
AntraxSuicide
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I meant "what's the next step for us or for them" but yeah, good framing.
1) I'm not sure because I can't speak for other people, but I found the sanctions bill comforting in this respect. Establishment GOP is, in theory, still able to outright ignore or supercede the wishes of Trump and his administration. It's not comforting how easily that could change.
2) Not sure what this entails. I'm basically doing what I can now. As a party, I do think a national protest centered on a government shutdown is on the table. A large scale version of blocking traffic, so to speak.
3) A nonviolent protester getting killed by a terrorist, unfortunately. So I'm already there.
balladofwindfishes
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Good thing these CEO's are in the Senate!
They're gonna try again. Weave it into tax reform/cuts somehow or shutdown drama.
VendettaRed07
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No it isn't.
Like I don't give a fuck about the gerrymandering. Yes it's a problem. Yes it's a massive disadvantage
But no, it isn't the difference between making 64 seat gain possible and a 22 seat gain impossible.
Especially given the circumstances of both. Democrats committed the crime of trying to provide people with healthcare. Republicans are literally destroying themselves on a daily basis.
Figure out a way to win. I want EVERYONE gone if they can't.
If the current party officials cannot figure out a way to win a majority given the current shit show going on, regardless of the map difficulty, I have Zero faith they'll be able to figure out how to win in 2020 either. So they ALL need to get the fuck out.
Massive gains in 2018 or leave and never come back. I don't want to hear any excuses.
whyamihere
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One of the worst people in the country pardoned one of the worst people in the country.
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