Sad Affleck
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You misspelled Alan Wake!
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DigitalFoundry: RotTR Xbox One X vs PS4 Pro First Look Graphics Comaprison
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You misspelled Alan Wake!
anothertech
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When my 1080ti SLI setup can't produce the same visual upgrades in the same game, then yes, yes I can.
Who knows what they could have added to the pro version or pc version if they upgraded those as well.
The main part of these upgrades have NOTHING to do with hardware capability.
I don't know if marketed right and with the entire library available to new buyers and the IQ difference that is bound to come with this new hardware I really see this as being as good as a Next Gen console to a lot of people.
The upgrade is ridiculous
Colbert
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or we just can have both!
Larogue
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HeWhoWalks
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anothertech
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Don't get used to it folks. Most devs aren't going to add upgraded textures for Xbonx ports, and we'll most likely see just resolution bumps using the same assets as the main upgrades between the two, very similar to the ps4/Xbone differences, going into the future.
PC will almost always have the best visuals and iq for third party games going forward.
Sorry to pee in your cheerios tho.
No, not for the PS4 Pro you can't. You can write off hardware for PC in all situations... but just like how you can't write off hardware advantages of the current gen consoles over 360 and PS3 for something like Dead or Alive 5 or Tomb Raider Definitive Edition simply because it wasn't retroactively applied to the PC version, you can't state matter of factly that a benefit that would depend almost entirely on additional memory isn't there because one of the platforms now has a significant memory advantage.
DirgeExtinction
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Same. I see a few differences, but nothing as big as I was expecting. They're actually closer than I thought.
No biggie it happens.
It could also be a matter of not having the time to port their implementation on PS4 pro, with the hardware specific features, to the Xbox one X.
And that leads to the lingering question I have. Is getting high quality checkerboarding results on the Xbox one X (or PC for that matter) more complicated than the Pro? I don't know. That uncertainty is why I think it's too soon to make a statement like "all 3rd party games will look better on the X". I expect most will, especially in terms of shadow quality, texture filtering, and LOD distances, but in terms of image quality for games that rely on checkboarding, who knows. I don't think it's as black and white as Microsoft simply having the beefier box. Anyways, this may not matter much at all if the majority of games can hit native 4k.
FacelessSamurai
..but cry so much I wish I had some
Except all third party games that also exist on PC have all those assets already created for the PC version and they can all be added to the Xbox One X version.
Sorry to pee in your cheerios tho.
That's what I'm thinking as well.. we'll have to wait and see,
Sir Vilhelm
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Man this looks great, can't wait to play it on the X.
This should really surprise no one as we've known the specs are greater on the X vs Pro. Not sure why so many obvious Pro-only fans thought differently. Going to be a long uphill battle for that group.
This should really surprise no one as we've known the specs are greater on the X vs Pro. Not sure why so many obvious Pro-only fans thought differently. Going to be a long uphill battle for that group.
anothertech
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The main noticeable parts of the upgraded visuals are the new assets. They could add those into the pro version if they wanted to, since its running checkerboard at half the res.
Honestly if they made the assets the same, turned off DoF for both, and just kept resolution difference, there would be very little differences to squint through. 4k native is a waste of resources.
SenjutsuSage
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Yautja_Warrior
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Pmsl
Zvonimir Boban
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Oh fuck off, I had made up my mind that I wasn't going to buy the X this year.
SenjutsuSage
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Oh my... you've just won the thread.
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
Haha I've saw this image used 20 times today but this is the best.
Crayon
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looooooooooooooooooooollll
No it's internally rendering half the amount of pixels compared to a native res
Native 4k >>>>>> 4kcb processing needed
You think the pro has the RAM to deliver these assets?
Thebonehead
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Whoops - I pasted over my text with the pic. I was actually agreeing with all points bar the last. It's the dance of shame for me
lmao
LelouchZero
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You vs the girl he tells you not to worry about:
Those new assets are textures that very well may not (and quite likely won't) fit in the PS4 Pro's memory. The resolution the Pro runs at would have very little bearing on that. It also goes beyond resolution difference, as the 2160cb mode on PS4P already retains standard PS4 settings for everything other than resolution, whereas this comparison is against the XB1X's native 4K mode. So it's more detailed and higher resolution simultaneously. The checkboard mode on PS4 Pro is already eschewing graphical aspects that do exist in that version out of necessity.
This is funny!
Now this is the only place I'd say
Chloe could hold her own. Talking about 4K assets!
Uno Venova
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the real answer is we have no clue
If I had to guess, the multi platform games with marketing deals will have significant improvements
Not likely, if anything we're due Alan Wake damnit!
icecold1983
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not seeing any improved aa. at least nothing that makes any meaningful difference
ODDI
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Wishmaster92
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If Sony unlocks more RAM from the OS then maybe. Frankly I see Sony doing this in the future to counter the texture difference because it is very noticeable and dependent on RAM. It obviously won't be the exact same because the x1x will always have more RAM and of course more bandwidth, but it should definitely help.
LastGamer84
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Eh, agree to disagree. Price is going to be the factor for the holdouts/casual market. We're midway (I'd say past) through this generation. People have, for the most part, already made their choice.
In my opinion, casuals will buy the cheaper one (Slim and S) while the hardcore enthusiasts will/ have bought the Pro and Scorpio. Don't get me wrong, the X is a great value proposition, I just already have a Pro and prefer Sony's exclusives to MS'.
Holy shit LMAO.
DwightSchruting
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Sounds like you're hopeful they'll bomb, sorry to tell you it won't be so.
Bits N Pieces
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This thread has been worth it, lol.
Banjo-Kazooie
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This thread has been glorious as usual!
It won't bomb, it just won't sell as much as the other big two.
Nice improvement. Higher quality textures/assets were supposed to be the more apparent factor when it came to increasing visual quality on the X. Hopefully other devs put that 12GB ram to good use aswell. Would be nice if this gets added to the PC version too, but I don't think they've been giving PC as much love as they do the consoles with TR or even the 2013 one.
Edit: Just noticed Pro face Lara 😱 ok thays really good. Don't like warz, but these get me, and that's some good shit.
Lmao that's good.
Edit: Just noticed Pro face Lara 😱 ok thays really good. Don't like warz, but these get me, and that's some good shit.
This. Close this thread.
Sorry to tell you, but it will.
I've seen worse threads lasting forever. I don't think it will be closed.
Daffy Duck
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HahahahH, oh God thank you for this, hahahahahaha. This is perfect.