rokkerkory
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Is this a thread about Uncharted? I can't understand why there are pics of UC in here. I love that game too but come on.
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DigitalFoundry: RotTR Xbox One X vs PS4 Pro First Look Graphics Comaprison
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Probably better to have a PS4 and a Switch. Less overlap, more to choose from.
I think people bring up exclusives because software sells consoles better than anything.
Best to have all three, sorry.
Not if you want the best versions of the biggest games
Me but a poor peasant
Biggest multiplat games, sure. But you're paying for it. It's really hard to be surprised that a new $500 box outperforms a year-old $400 box. It should.
But call me when MS gets their first party shit in gear.
Colbert
Banned
That sounds like MS marketing!
anothertech
Member
Oh the next couple years are going to be glorious with these DF threads. This is why I love NeoGaf.
God bless you John.
God bless you John.
I want that texture quality for my GTX 1070. Make it happen Nixxes.
MilkyJoe
Member
I expect the resolution to be the biggest differentiator in a lot of multiplats. That and more grass...
Liliana Eileen
Member
So you're literally lying, or do your eyes need to be checked? 🤣
Fair enough, to each their own...
I definitely have effects and such that I'd rather not have in my games as well such as heavy post processing that adds a overall blur to the whole image (recent Battlefield games do this a lot) or heavy use of chromatic aberration so I understand where you are coming from.
At least some devs are getting better about offering more choices on those fronts.
Snake29
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Tomb Raider?
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
MilkyJoe
Member
If backwards compatible games are anything to go by, snap up a good deal, if you see it, before release.
Unknown Soldier
Member
Now that they are unshackled from Square Enix deals with AMD on the PC side hopefully they will be able to do better with the PC enhancements. Deus Ex: Mankind Divided had a lot of technical issues because it was forced to be a Gaming Evolved title.
Ah gotcha, must have brushed over that fact in the video. So let me ask you then, why do you think Tomb Raider does not use a similar checkerboarding method in the Xbox one X version? Nixis does have experience has implimented it before with the pro after all.
Not if Nintendo games don't interest me. And the Xbox One is my multiplayer place.
What does sales have to do with this thread? And multiplat sell consoles just as well, why else do you think Sony locks down all those deals.
Only foolish people thinks the iq is better on the Scorpio. It's pure effect they added.
Salt? That's just a bad statement. No need to conflate the issue. This is a thread about ROTTR why are there Uncharted posts? This is a wider issue. HZD threads turn into Zelda threads. Forza turns into GT and vice versa. In reality one can exist while the other does as well and is prosperous. I'm implying that this has been and is a reoccurring issue.
Saying that:
This 1X version looks better than all Sony exclusives.
Is just nonsense and bait.
Threads getting derailed serve no purpose except to affirm the echo chamber hive mind set. Clarifying this looks really really good on it's own no need for fanboy pandering.
Those are bad screens and you know it.
She's in the shadow, you are too far away to tell any detail and the screens are too small.Look, here's a link to the screenshot thread:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1421994&page=4
The very first picture on this page is taken by me, it is taken in-game, not during a cutscene and it differs in polygon count and texture detail in no way to the models in cutscenes of the game. The only thing that does differ is lighting and some added image post processing effects. That looks better in cutscenes, yes.
Locks down what deals? 1-month exclusivity for DLC? Please.
You're going to tell me Breath of the Wild didn't move the Switch? I know people that bought the PS4 just for Bloodborne, same with The Last of Us on PS3, same with Gears and Halo for XBOX.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
You mean 4K textures for the X? That would be quite something for a game of that scale. Good thing is we know Rockstar bothered with the power 360 offered and that difference was easily noticeable too. So with that in mind i hope we can expect Rockstar to make use of that extra power again. They didn't really for GTA V remaster on PS4 and X1 though, did they?
CyberPunked
Member
I'm almost 100% sure that the perceived lower texture quality on the PC is because there's no DOF on the Xbox.
If you want the best versions of the biggest games you will go PC. If you need a console with the best versions of the multiplats you have to buy into the Xbox ecosystem. Many are not going to do that because in fact the masses don't give a shit really.
Yes, the new Xbox is going to have slightly better looking games than the PS4 Pro. This is a known fact and has been known for ages. I think people are overestimating just how big these changes are going to be.
And you still don't have much for first party games, which is a major problem for convincing the masses to buy your system. The age of Halo and Gears is long gone.
Yautja_Warrior
Member
That's why I have PC, for the best versions and it let's me have Xbox One games now too. Then my PS4 Pro and Switch cover everything else, no need for Xbox One X for me.
I'm sure the people that get an X will enjoy it though, it's a decent console but it's not something I need personally.
Liliana Eileen
Member
Does anyone remember grassgate from RDR last gen? Imagine when RDR2 comes out...
/shudder
/shudder
I can't see the price going up. There's just too many used copies of that game in circulation.
FacelessSamurai
..but cry so much I wish I had some
Those are bad screens and you know it.
Look, here's a link to the screenshot thread:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1421994&page=4
The very first picture on this page is taken by me, it is taken in-game, not during a cutscene and it differs in polygon count and texture detail in no way to the models in cutscenes of the game. The only thing that does differ is lighting and some added image post processing effects. That looks better in cutscenes, yes.
It's kind of pointless to discuss any of this. Fact is that PS4 Pro is limited 5.5GB of RAM I believe for games while Xbox One X has 9GB available to games. So PS4 Pro has barely any extra RAM available compared to standard PS4, while Xbox One X has a lot more, making it possible to fill up that RAM with all those higher resolution textures that PS4 Pro won't be able to have no matter what, it doesn't have the extra RAM.
A lot of unmarked graves in that thread...
It's stated in the video that it isn't the same implementation. Looks like you may have brushed over a few facts in the video =p
Temporal injection is not the same as checkerboard rendering. The end goal is similar but the implementation and benefits/drawbacks are different.
Couldn't agree more.
Those are bad screens and you know it.
Look, here's a link to the screenshot thread:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1421994&page=4
The very first picture on this page is taken by me, it is taken in-game, not during a cutscene and it differs in polygon count and texture detail in no way to the models in cutscenes of the game. The only thing that does differ is lighting and some added image post processing effects. That looks better in cutscenes, yes.
Again, what does LL have to do with this thread?
MosquitoSmasher
Member
And on top of that was a resolution difference if i'm not mistaken. But that didn't happen for GTA V on PS3 and 360 and neither on Xbox One and PS4. Unless i'm mistaken.
The resolution for RDR on PS3 was sub-HD 640p. I know, I played it and it looks blurry as fuck.
No they can't. You can't focus/unfocus elements on a 2D plane, unless you'r using a VR headset obviously. Artists wouldn't bother with it in games, movies, photo and more if you could.
And even if you don't like it (which is fine) you can't deny the similarities between Movies and game cutscene
This is not a system for the masses, plain and simple.
Pjsprojects
Member
Good god!
Maybe I won't upgrade my PC this year and I might skip PS4 Pro.
New plan. Buy X1X to replace X1S,Keep PS4 Slim & upgrade PC in a year!
Maybe I won't upgrade my PC this year and I might skip PS4 Pro.
New plan. Buy X1X to replace X1S,Keep PS4 Slim & upgrade PC in a year!
Now I'm confused, I just admitted that. So I ask again, why temporal injection for the Xbox one x version, given Nixis' experience with cherboarding on the pro?
Which is all I've been saying.
People will buy it, it has an audience, but it isn't going to change MS's position this gen.
Sony changed their postion last gen through first party software releases that really got strong starting in 2011.
Liabe Brave
Member
No it isn't. CBR is the same resolution as native, just achieved in a faster but less precise manner.All of that on top of a native res that's double the res than pro
No it isn't. Though evidently not using CBR, the temporal method surely equates, meaning resolution is 4x the Pro, though less precise per pixel.
This is false. Besides the objective metrics, they constantly offer personal, subjective opinions about the games they analyze.
This is a tech thread. Please take this elsewhere.
The textures on One X are not "the smallest details". They contribute a great deal to the quality of the final image.
Do you also hate AA? Because that just adds blurriness.
In the Roman Colosseum, who was more pathetic and weak? The gladiators engaged in combat, or the cynical audience with their cheers for vicarious bloodshed?
If you're going to make it us versus them, at least do it about something important. Like this:
That's a man who gets it.
AllBusinessJr
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Played the game on the Pro. It looked great. Comes as absolutely no surprise that the X has a better version - the hardware is more powerful.
I have no intention of buying the X, but I don't see why people can't admit that the version looked markedly better.
I have no intention of buying the X, but I don't see why people can't admit that the version looked markedly better.
I think it looks better!
I don't even know who is serious anymore.
anothertech
Member
They added texture upgrades plain and simple. The Dof gives the illusion of clearer backgrounds, but look at the dirt on the skin and the particle effects vs the pc ultra mode.
Most of these updated visuals have nothing to do with hardware capability apparently.
Of course! But this is a tech thread about RotTR on Xbox X and PS4 Pro, nothing more.
LastGamer84
Member
Honestly I see this more as an upgrade for existing Xbox One owners than something to attract new customers.
And lol at both sides in this thread.
In two years when PS5 is out the pendulum will swing again. And of course Xbox One X games will look better than Pro games - it's $500, came out midway through the generation, and it has the advantage of more system resources. Why does it have to be a big deal? It doesn't devalue your purchase. If anything, existing Xbox One owners should be the ones outraged, they had to spend the beginning of this generation with lackluster multiplatform titles (in terms of IQ anyways).
30fps with vsync on is shittier than 30fps with vsync off. it's not just about framerate and resolution
That may be so, but you need the hardware that can actually even hit 4k 30 fps on PC in the first place
(aka expensive)Spending so much money is rare, though.