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Kotaku: Switch keeps dominating PS4 sales in Japan (first 26 weeks sales data)
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It's anihawk. He is not serious.
I mean, stockpiling some Switches for major releases isn't necessarily a bad thing during a supply constrained period. Having more Switches at launch day for a game can increase foot traffic into stores.
Nintendo even tried to help Capcom out with MHXX this past week because Capcom, as dumb as they are, decided to release it a day after Obon, a holiday period Nintendo had prepared for. So Nintendo held some stock back for the release of MHXX to try to get more people to buy it. They treated MHXX like a first party. That's why one week it went up to 100k+ then dropped to 20k then rose back up again.
Nintendo even tried to help Capcom out with MHXX this past week because Capcom, as dumb as they are, decided to release it a day after Obon, a holiday period Nintendo had prepared for. So Nintendo held some stock back for the release of MHXX to try to get more people to buy it. They treated MHXX like a first party. That's why one week it went up to 100k+ then dropped to 20k then rose back up again.
Fixed. GAF taught me to think this way, not just Anihawk. Even if the post was by someone else I'd get the intent. Though it might have taken me a second or two, granted.
While launch-aligned is clearly one sided in favor of Switch, I think it's release schedule is what i think is the driving force of it's sales. The one big AAA release a month with 12-15 indies/neogeo, and a few lower budget AA titles is doing wonders. The thing is, Most of these games are given a small spotlight to shine and it's doing wonders for nintendo and the small devs. I hope they're over their "curation" period and start working with more of these smaller guys to get some more fresh content out there. I know a lot of people snub indies, but when i see things like PUBG, and remember things like Mortal Kombat being made by 4 people.
Also i want to thank AniHawk. Naming the great ps4 *exclusives* really had me cracking up.
Also i want to thank AniHawk. Naming the great ps4 *exclusives* really had me cracking up.
Acerac
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It does show how willing posters here are willing to rewrite history. If nothing else, I feel that is valuable enough to merit a thread.
That said, it was very helpful to read why you thought a thread didn't have a point. Do you provide this service for all threads that don't need to be made? I only ask because there are so many others that can use this valuable service yet I don't see you complaining in the dozens of similar threads daily.
This false equivalency is adorable.
Yep. Indies have made some of my favorite Switch games. Thumper is amazing and Ironcast is addictive as hell. Mighty Gunvolt Burst and Shovel Knight make me feel like a NES kid again. And with the Neo Geo games I pretty much have an arcade in my hand. They more than fill in the gaps. Honestly I haven't felt any release schedule woes since I bought this thing.
Nah, Switch is performing great from the start while the PS4's first year was lackluster. I mean you should be able to state facts backed up by numbers. This has nothing to do with console war BS, except for the people that catch feelings about stuff like this.
Switch outselling the PS4 in Japan doesn't make the PS4 any less of a success or less attractive for 3rd parties. Nothing will change.
KillerMan91
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Well I follow sales threads more so I guess I can't provide this service regarding of other threads(?) Usually if you have duplicate threads they are locked. Of course this is not exactly duplicate thread but it speaks volumes that this thread has almost the same amount of posts as weekly Media Create threads have and those offer actually more sales data than this thread. The hint for popularity of this thread is in the title that drives both sides to their console war modes.
Dark Cloud
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The amount of people who continue to play the "both sides" card is hilarious. Trump really go that pushed into all facets of life.
Never change.
Jon Carter
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I'm kind of amazed a Gaffer with an Iwata avatar wouldn't know that ARMS and/or Splatoon 2 and/or Mario + Rabbids were already out. You've managed to not see the OTs, review threads, Splatfest threads, content update threads or any sales-related threads on the front page over the past three months?
CaviarMeths
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Yes. Same story almost everywhere worldwide. Their shipped and sold through numbers are nearly identical right now.
And before someone quotes me, yes, I know your local store in Finland or Australia has several sitting on the store shelves.
Skittzo0413
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This thread has been a pretty entertaining read. It's definitely not a pointless comparison but it is of course far more valuable to compare global sales over that same period. That data is just a lot harder to find. I'm betting Switch is somewhere around 2-3m units behind PS4 globally launch aligned, which isn't too bad when it has the holiday season (and increased production) coming up.
Anecdotally in the Switch stock situation thread it appears to be a good deal less supply constrained in the US too. That won't last much longer with Odyssey coming soon.
Anecdotally in the Switch stock situation thread it appears to be a good deal less supply constrained in the US too. That won't last much longer with Odyssey coming soon.
ArtHands
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Not everyone follow the sales so closely by visiting the media create threads. Its not useless
Acerac
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Fair enough. Have you told the people who lock the threads that it should be locked? Or did you feel that bumping the thread would be the most effective method to close it?
Perhaps you should inform Evilore that his mods are not performing up to your standards. It is unlikely that he will get the message here.
Flintty
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Is it really necessary to mention that tit in this thread? Seems more like GAF really got Trump pushed into all facets of life. Come on...
OmegaDL50
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Sounds about right. The Switch is a handheld console in tablet form factor....except when it's not.
Like the other thread about games larger than 32GB, you had folks using the criticism that a "console" should have "console" level storage space for 2017.
And now in this thread it's no surprise that a "handheld" is outselling a console because "handhelds" generally have higher overall sales.
Seems the narrative seems to change from thread to thread, it's just interesting to observe.
Acerac
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Is any post really necessary? Any single post on this board?
I mean you're not wrong, you're just not actually saying anything.
KillerMan91
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Well I actually don't blame op too much as he is just copying thread title from the original source but original title from Kotaku is meant for console war bs. If you actually wanted to make thread about success of Switch in Japan without too much console bs you would compare it to actually successful systems like 3DS, DS, GBA, PS2 or even Wii and then provide charts that show how each system did during the same timeframe.
Well I have not bumped this thread too much when the last post is under half hour old. I mean you are trying to bait me to say that I am trying to moderate this thread but I am just offering my opinion like we do in these public forums. I am not trying to force locking this thread in any way. Just saying that to me it feels pretty useless to create threads like this when the same information in available for anyone by just clicking other thread title on same forum.
All facets = many sides lol
Acerac
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It seems you misunderstand me entirely. Baiting requires subtlety, and I've been fairly open. Let me try again... saying you do not like a thread or do not think it should be open is not only useless, but extremely impolite to boot.
I was hoping you'd get that without me openly calling you rude and saying you shouldn't shit up threads, but if that is what is required for you to get the message perhaps I used too much subtlety after all.
Apologies for the failed communication on my part. I thought I was being rather clear.
ArtHands
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The comparison here was made to show its performance in the current video game climate in Japan.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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I never considered the switch a home console in the same nature of a traditional home console so none of this is surprising. Since it's being advertised as "a take a long system that can dock to your tv" I mean, was there any question it wouldn't sell in Japan? When the switch is doing outside Japan, that's when it's surprising, but Japan has caped for Nintendo forever....a relationship that Sony has not had much success with there.
Principate
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I mean a $300 handheld. The 3DS bombed at $250 to the degree that they had to give it substantial price cut which caused the company to post it's first quarterly loss in it's entire history.
It was far from a sure thing.
……forgetit
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Why are people so resistant to the idea that the switch is just doing well? It's good hardware with decent appeal. Hopefully it stays a success, competition is good after all.
V
Vilix
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Are they anything like people on videogame message board who have too much time on their hands so they criticize other people on videogame message boards?
Because then their dream of Zelda and Mario on Playstation and Xbox stays a dream.
its not a fucking portable
……forgetit
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I mean, Nintendo failing at the console market doesn't automatically mean that they'll go third party. They could have focused on that quality of life thing they were kicking around before the switch did well.
Not condoning the dumb reasoning of the original post, but it's a semantics battle now. It doesn't matter if you think it's a portable or a home console. It can do both, so it is both.
It is a hybrid and portability is a huge part of Switch's DNA and it's what makes it the most appealing current gen system to the Japanese gamers. Christ people this isn't cost accounting.
OrbitalBeard
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Outtrigger888
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It's whatever you want it to be, I use mine as a home console and my buddy only plays his as a portable. You can do whatever the fuck you want with it.
OmegaDL50
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The functional hardware that actually makes the Switch work, As in run games and be able to play them. These things do not exist in the fucking dock.
Wait...how am I able to take my Switch on the go then?
OmegaDL50
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It's a convenient narrative some folk like to spin unfortunately. My very first in this thread glossed over this point.
As in that post, the Switch is a portable....except when it's not.
Outtrigger888
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Well your not suppose to, Nintendo included the 7 inch screen on their home console for shits and gigs. Trying to start a new home console trend in the industry.
What I get from this thread is that the Switch makes console wars confusion because everyone is just picking what fits his narrative.
Console sells well in Japan? "Obviously, it's a portable!"
Battery life is underwhelming? "Obviously, it's a portable!" or "Yeah Nintendo cheaped out again, despite there being no better solution."
Console is weaker than the competitiors? "Obviously, it's a portable!" or "Obviously, Nintendo only makes weak home consoles. Wouldn't buy for 300. Nintendo being greedy again despite only making a few bucks each sale. It's not a fucking portable!"
Console warriors don't think that far. They also don't get how it would hurt Nintendo's ability to try new things or to take almost 5 years time for a new Zelda title.
Console sells well in Japan? "Obviously, it's a portable!"
Battery life is underwhelming? "Obviously, it's a portable!" or "Yeah Nintendo cheaped out again, despite there being no better solution."
Console is weaker than the competitiors? "Obviously, it's a portable!" or "Obviously, Nintendo only makes weak home consoles. Wouldn't buy for 300. Nintendo being greedy again despite only making a few bucks each sale. It's not a fucking portable!"
Console warriors don't think that far. They also don't get how it would hurt Nintendo's ability to try new things or to take almost 5 years time for a new Zelda title.
You forgot the other thread about how games over 32GB will be handled on Switch. It's put into the home console category forgetting it's also a portable.
DeuceGamer
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I didn't think he was serious but the fact I questioned it because those arguments are consistently made are pretty telling.
Right, when comparing storage space it's obviously a home console again, because then people can compare it to 500 GB/1 TB bricks.
It's a portable that can be docked to the TV. Nintendo are just choosing to market it as a console first that you can take with you at present as the 3DS is live and well. As soon as the 3DS dies and the notable software from that appears on switch (Pokemon, Level-5 etc) that company line may well change!
AfterTheFall
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I enjoy both consoles. Good on Nintendo for finding success with the Switch. Sony is doing really well elsewhere, so props to them too.
SmokedMeat
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Graphics Horse
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You can argue the Switch isn't a handheld, it can be used as one but the majority of its modes it literally isn't, but saying it isn't a portable is just nonsense, pretty much anything with integrated battery and display is a portable.
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