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[Number_6]

I thought it was pretty fun, those kids were awesome. I didn't really find it scary, and the use of LOUD NOTE TO ACCOMPANY JUMP SCARES was a bit much.

Great adaptation though. One nit to pick, unfortunately, is the way in which It is confronted and defeated. I was hoping for more cosmic stuff, but maybe that's the sequel. I also did not enjoy how they went in to save Beverly, instead of making the explicit decision as a group to go in and have a battle of wills and kill It. But, you only have so much runtime.

 

[LORANT92]

Just watched it, it was really good overall. Watched it with a friend who apparently really doesn't handle horror well, so I'll be sure to drag him along from part 2

 

[Eppy Thatcher]

That isn't accurate. Kind of book spoiler about his form, but

Spoiler

the deadlights is the realm where It's true form resides. Those 3 lights aren't the form itself.

Spoiler

I thought that was called Todash space or what not and the Dead Lights was his natural/non physical form before creation?

it's been years since i read the book and i never even managed the whole DT series tho so i'm probably way off base.

 

[wowzors]

I am confused why everyone asks about the kills/why pennywise doesn't just murder then right away.

My take was that to truly feed he needed fear and a lot of what he did was to instill fear hoping that they would be petrified by it leading to both a filling meal as well as a death.

This doesn't fully explain the kills on some of the other kids but I think it's his motivation on the main crew.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Spoiler

I thought that was called Todash space or what not and the Dead Lights was his natural/non physical form before creation?

it's been years since i read the book and i never even managed the whole DT series tho so i'm probably way off base.

It's confusing as hell...

Spoiler

You are correct he came from the Todash Darkness or macroverse, but his form itself isn't physical and exists in the deadlights. Where I get really confused is that I think the deadlights exist in the todash darkness, or are linked to the darkness?

 

[Eppy Thatcher]

It's confusing as hell...

Spoiler

You are correct he came from the Todash Darkness or macroverse, but his form itself isn't physical and exists in the deadlights. Where I get really confused is that I think the deadlights exist in the todash darkness, or are linked to the darkness?

No I get you.

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I always interpreted it as yes they exist/existed there and to some extent still do? they describe the deadlights when Bill(?) looks in his eyes as writhing, crawling orange light? Always thought that was the closest he ever got to overtly describing not only the dead lights but his most "true" form. Not true physical or anything. Just his most basic essence.

Like i said though I ran with a lot of this stuff as a kid so i'm sure i got it all jumbled for the most part.

God i really hope they dig more into the cosmic stuff in the next one. I rambled for an hour about Lovecraft and Elder Gods and IT last night to my girlfriend after we got home. It's just the best.

 

[Pilgrimzero]

What if Pennywise is one of the alien monsters from the end of Howard the Duck? Crossover!

 

[Superflat]

Loved it. I admit the main draw was for the nostalgic set up of kids going on adventures a la Sandlot, Goonies, etc. I thought Stranger Things was fantastic, but I would say IT's casting was superb and edges it out.

Maybe it's because I went into IT not expecting much when it comes to scares based on what a lot of people were saying, but I thought the film had some really great scary moments. Not the jump scares necessarily but the imagery of the running headless child, Hockstetter's encounter with the sewer kids, projector/garage sequence, the painted lady, "you'll float too" basement, and Betty in the closet were pretty impressionable and would have been burned into my mind if I saw them as a kid.

Pennywise the clown was on the less scary side for me. Aside from the opening and the projector/garage sequence, I didn't find him that frightening, even with the teeth.

Overall really fun movie with a good mix of comedy and horror that doesn't go the satirical/parody route. The horror is played straight and seriously, with the comedy coming from the awkward and clumsy nature of just being kids. Definitely a buy for me down the road.

 

[Bloodporne]

15 minutes is still a big deal. It doesn't take much to change the pace of a film.

Also, horror fans go crazy over a few seconds of cut gore.

I agree with you 100% and my post was light hearted.

I WISH it could be an extra hour or so because I really do think the movie felt incredibly compressed and rushed at points. That being said, you're definitely right about 15 minutes probably making a big difference here in the end.

Either way, will check this version out once it's out.

 

[VistraNorrez]

I agree with you 100% and my post was light hearted.

I WISH it could be an extra hour or so because I really do think the movie felt incredibly compressed and rushed at points. That being said, you're definitely right about 15 minutes probably making a big difference here in the end.

Either way, will check this version out once it's out.

I think the big deal is going to be when (if?) they do a cut of both Chapters 1 & 2. That could be a significantly different film, especially if they structure it like the book. We'd potentially have atleast 3 different ways to view IT.

 

[More_Badass]

I think the big deal is going to be when (if?) they do a cut of both Chapters 1 & 2. That could be a significantly different film, especially if they structure it like the book. We'd potentially have atleast 3 different ways to view IT.

I believe the director said he'd like to do that

 

[The Broken Ska Record]

I think the big deal is going to be when (if?) they do a cut of both Chapters 1 & 2. That could be a significantly different film, especially if they structure it like the book. We'd potentially have atleast 3 different ways to view IT.

That would be super cool. But like the Whole Bloody Affair cut of Kill Bill, I won't hold my breath.

 

[lawnchair]

why does bev totally ignore the chubby poet kid? that was lame. you suck bev.

 

[SargerusBR]

Amy Adams for Bev please.

It would be funny since Annette O'Toole was Bev in the 90's mini-series and she was Martha Kent in Smallville

 

[Host Samurai]

Is IT's clown appearance in the books more like 2017 Pennywise or 1990's Pennywise?

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Is IT's clown appearance in the books more like 2017 Pennywise or 1990's Pennywise?

2017's.

 

[SeanC]

Finally saw it last night and really enjoyed it. It was able to find enough for the characters to really get in with them, particularly Bev, toss in variety in scares and keep things moving well. Kid actors were top-notch, written like real kids and not PG-13 kids.

But I particularly have to point out how damn well the movie is shot. I mean it gets atmosphere down better than a lot of horror movies I've seen in a long time, looked up the DP and he's the same guy that shoots a lot of Chan-wook Park flcks and I'm like "Oh, I totally see it now."

 

[Pilgrimzero]

why does bev totally ignore the chubby poet kid? that was lame. you suck bev.

Fat > True loves kiss

 

[KojiKnight]

Anyone else mildly concerned that they'll try and go bigger budget with part 2? I mean obviously they shouldn't want for money having just pulled in 6x production cost and more than likely 15x world wide by the end of the run... But i worry they could try and drop 100 million blowing out the budget on constant cg and big name actors/actresses and lose a lot of the feel

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Anyone else mildly concerned that they'll try and go bigger budget with part 2?

If any of this fan-casting is even remotely what Muschietti and crew is looking at, then yeah, this film's going to START at 70mil.

 

[The Broken Ska Record]

Anyone else mildly concerned that they'll try and go bigger budget with part 2? I mean obviously they shouldn't want for money having just pulled in 6x production cost and more than likely 15x world wide by the end of the run... But i worry they could try and drop 100 million blowing out the budget on constant cg and big name actors/actresses and lose a lot of the feel

I really hope they keep the budget low. Well low enough anyway.

 

[Astral Dog]

If any of this fan-casting is even remotely what Muschietti and crew is looking at, then yeah, this film's going to START at 70mil.

Whats the budget for part 1, it should be one of the most expensive Horror movies ever made

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

Is IT's clown appearance in the books more like 2017 Pennywise or 1990's Pennywise?

I'd say neither. He's wearing a shimmering silver suit with three orange pom-poms, but the description doesn't make it sound like he's exactly solid matter, sort of a shimmering blob that people's minds turn into the clown appearance.

 

[StrongBelwas]

Is IT's clown appearance in the books more like 2017 Pennywise or 1990's Pennywise?

The clown appearance in the new movie is more how it is described in the book, the suit and the hair and the cracking on the forehead etc.

 

[SeanC]

Whats the budget for part 1, it should be one of the most expensive Horror movies ever made

It's about 30 million. About mid-level for a major studio film, but higher-end for a horror flick like this.

 

[KojiKnight]

Whats the budget for part 1, it should be one of the most expensive Horror movies ever made

35 mil. Fairly large for a horror movie, but still a pretty budget title considering it's only about 1 1/2 romcom budgets.

 

[MagnaderAlpha]

Is IT's clown appearance in the books more like 2017 Pennywise or 1990's Pennywise?

Both and neither. 2017's Pennywise has the costume color correct (silver suit with orange pom poms), as well as the "horn-shaped" hair tufts on the side of Pennywise's head (even though book Pennywise didn't have that part on the top of his head, as other than the horn-shaped tufts, he was bald). From the descriptions we are given, he doesn't look "strange" as a clown, but is compared to familiar clowns like Bozo, Ronald McDonald and Clarabell (from Howdy Doody), and oddly enough, 1990s Pennywise takes some cues from those guys (mainly Bozo and Ronald, especially with the hair and the makeup around the eyes). Looper basically went on a rundown regarding the new movie's characters in comparison to how they looked in the novel, even Pennywise.

Personally, I was under the impression that his appearance didn't look far off from a normal circus clown, not a pre-20th century clown like the 2017 Pennywise. Stephen King is a very descriptive writer, and had that been the case, he would've written the specifics regarding that, but to all those that see Pennywise, be it the Losers or some of the adults like at the Silver Dollar or during the Bradley Gang massacre, they don't mention out out of place its style is compared to their contemporary setting. The adults, in particular, that see Pennywise don't think, "Why is that clown dressed like it's the 18th century?" more than, "That's odd a clown is here. Is the circus in town?"

That and the odd thing I keep hearing people say that the "red balloons" are Pennywise's trademarks carried over from the novel itself. That's only a 2017 thing, as both in the mini-series and the actual novel, Pennywise had multi-colored balloons.

 

[NastyBook]

Just got out of the theater on this one. Thought it was pretty dope. Music was fantastic, and made the It scenes (which came very quickly) nice and unsettling.

Spoiler

Underwear scene

was probably the most off putting thing in the film, however. Especially so once old girl joined them. Wasn't really ready for that.

Dude who played It nailed it. That subtle drooling and pouting bottom lip, along with those fucking eyes going where ever the fuck they wanted, rattled me.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Never mind. Already answered, and in more detail than my own...

 

[Tounsi_Tag]

Just got off the theatre.
I really enjoyed it and thought it was much better than the old version.
I was very surprised with the Georgie scene. I didn't expect them to show his bitten arm although it was in the books.
My friends kept pointing out to holes that I didn't care about personally ( how did Bev run away from killing her father ...etc)
The movie didn't have big names and it worked well for me and for others as it's crashing the box office. I don't think it needs any A-listers to make a hit sequel .

 

[Gravidee]

Just got off the theatre.
I really enjoyed it and thought it was much better than the old version.
I was very surprised with the Georgie scene. I didn't expect them to show his bitten arm although it was in the books.
My friends kept pointing out to holes that I didn't care about personally ( how did Bev run away from killing her father ...etc)
The movie didn't have big names and it worked well for me and for others as it's crashing the box office. I don't think it needs any A-listers to make a hit sequel .

Did he actually die or was he just knocked out? Thought I heard breathing when Bill came to investigate.

 

[Tounsi_Tag]

Did he actually die or was he just knocked out? Thought I heard breathing when Bill came to investigate.

I assumed he died. Kind of mimicking how that guy killed his father as well
Might be wrong though

 

[Host Samurai]

Both and neither. 2017's Pennywise has the costume color correct (silver suit with orange pom poms), as well as the "horn-shaped" hair tufts on the side of Pennywise's head (even though book Pennywise didn't have that part on the top of his head, as other than the horn-shaped tufts, he was bald). From the descriptions we are given, he doesn't look "strange" as a clown, but is compared to familiar clowns like Bozo, Ronald McDonald and Clarabell (from Howdy Doody), and oddly enough, 1990s Pennywise takes some cues from those guys (mainly Bozo and Ronald, especially with the hair and the makeup around the eyes). Looper basically went on a rundown regarding the new movie's characters in comparison to how they looked in the novel, even Pennywise.

Personally, I was under the impression that his appearance didn't look far off from a normal circus clown, not a pre-20th century clown like the 2017 Pennywise. Stephen King is a very descriptive writer, and had that been the case, he would've written the specifics regarding that, but to all those that see Pennywise, be it the Losers or some of the adults like at the Silver Dollar or during the Bradley Gang massacre, they don't mention out out of place its style is compared to their contemporary setting. The adults, in particular, that see Pennywise don't think, "Why is that clown dressed like it's the 18th century?" more than, "That's odd a clown is here. Is the circus in town?"

That and the odd thing I keep hearing people say that the "red balloons" are Pennywise's trademarks carried over from the novel itself. That's only a 2017 thing, as both in the mini-series and the actual novel, Pennywise had multi-colored balloons.

This would have been much creepier and not as obvious. I wish they went that route with his design.

 

[KojiKnight]

I assumed he died. Kind of mimicking how that guy killed his father as well
Might be wrong though

Nah he was alive, he groaned before she left, and he was still breathing when Bill got there. I don't think she'd have been able to get away with just going to live with her aunt if that were the case.

 

[Sunster]

I definitely thought this was scarier than the original. especially "painting lady". the original clown looked scarier because he was more human like, they clearly wanted more demon like in this movie so I get the redesign. did not expect to see a little kid get dismembered. never seen that on film before.

why does bev totally ignore the chubby poet kid? that was lame. you suck bev.

she didn't ignore him. they shared a little moment over that. it clearly meant a lot to her. she doesn't owe him a relationship because he wrote a neat poem.

 

[Schweinehund]

Really really liked the film, my favorite film so far this summer by far.

I don't know if the adult actors will be able to live up to their kid counterparts, they're all too good.

 

[lawnchair]

she didn't ignore him. they shared a little moment over that. it clearly meant a lot to her. she doesn't owe him a relationship because he wrote a neat poem.

come on. they didn't even talk about it! she looks at him and says "hair like winter fire or whatever" and that's it. he doesn't even respond if i recall correctly. at the end where the gang was slowly splitting up, it finally came down to ben and bill and bev. i was like "this is it, something's gotta happen". instead ben just disappears! buuullllshit.

 

[KojiKnight]

come on. they didn't even talk about it! she looks at him and says "hair like winter fire or whatever" and that's it. he doesn't even respond if i recall correctly. at the end where the gang was slowly splitting up, it finally came down to ben and bill and bev. i was like "this is it, something's gotta happen". instead ben just disappears! buuullllshit.

If you haven't read the books or seen the mini series... well, never count your chickens before they hatch.

 

[AoM]

come on. they didn't even talk about it! she looks at him and says "hair like winter fire or whatever" and that's it. he doesn't even respond if i recall correctly. at the end where the gang was slowly splitting up, it finally came down to ben and bill and bev. i was like "this is it, something's gotta happen". instead ben just disappears! buuullllshit.

As it got down to the three of them, I was imagining a really awkward scene where Bill and Ben eternally wait for the other to leave.

 

[lawnchair]

If you haven't read the books or seen the mini series... well, never count your chickens before they hatch.

they end up banging when they're adults, right? seem to remember that from the old IT. haven't seen it in a decade though. im happy for the young poet if he finally gets down with the winter fire embers etc. etc. the poem/postcard got a fair amount of screen time in the movie, i thought it was weird that when she finally realized who wrote it she only reacted for about 1.5 seconds and it was DONE.

As it got down to the three of them, I was imagining a really awkward scene where Bill and Ben eternally wait for the other to leave.

i know! it really seemed like something was going to happen. immediately after the first kid disappeared i was like "it's gonna come down to ben and bill and bev" .. and then it did ... .. and then nothing happened.

 

[AoM]

i know! it really seemed like something was going to happen. immediately after the first kid disappeared i was like "it's gonna come down to ben and bill and bev" .. and then it did ... .. and then nothing happened.

I haven't read the book, but at that point in the movie, there just wasn't enough time to do anything more complex. I think the poem+sewer kiss was enough setup for a future triangle.

 

[Fj0823]

Loved it, my only criticism is that Bill is a bit

Spoiler

too heroic

at times

 

[Carn82]

Went to see it this evening. Definitely in the top of King adaptations, and I'm a critical King fan. As a 'scary movie' it didn't really succeed. I missed the focus in Derry and how it's social world and IT are intertwined. I didn't really like the switcheroo they did with Mike and Ben. The 'omg Beverly is A GIRL' scenes worked better in the book. I wanted more 'mindgames' by Pennywise (that only really showed itself in the scene with Richie at Neibolt, IT mocking him). Things
I loved: the floating kids. The kids (especially Jack Dylan Grazer and Sophia Lillis), they really nailed their roles. How they made IT not just a clown but something more. And the fact that it was an actual movie, including all that belongs to a proper movie regarding set design, lighting and the whole image. I kinda wonder how someone like Spielberg might have done this. The miniseries is made for TV and Tim Curry's performance elevated it beyond that, but this movie is leaps beyond that production.

8/10

 

[Sunster]

Loved it, my only criticism is that Bill is a bit

Spoiler

too heroic

at times

lol he was talking about how they need to stay together right before they entered the house and then the SECOND he sees his brother he's off.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

lol he was talking about how they need to stay together right before they entered the house and then the SECOND he sees his brother he's off.

Yeah. He was a bit of a moron there. At least he caught on after Georgie called the boat "it" that it wasn't really Georgie.

 

[KyleCross]

So, just how scary is the film? I'm interested in seeing it but I can't handle jumpscares well. All other forms of horror I love, but jumpscares actually cause me physical pain so I avoid horror that relies on it. I've heard some people describe it as "Stranger Things but with gore." but Stranger Things wasn't scary at all, so I'm confused.

 

[Carn82]

lol he was talking about how they need to stay together right before they entered the house and then the SECOND he sees his brother he's off.

Fun thing is that he is also written like that in the book, they translated that pretty well. Bill is heroic but had a biigggg Georgie issue.

 

[Carn82]

So, just how scary is the film? I'm interested in seeing it but I can't handle jumpscares well. All other forms of horror I love, but jumpscares actually cause me physical pain so I avoid horror that relies on it. I've heard some people describe it as "Stranger Things but with gore." but Stranger Things wasn't scary at all, so I'm confused.

It's a more creepy and gory Stranger Things. But it keeps to a lot of familiar movie beats so the 'scary' stuff is always announced. It might have one real jump scare.

 

[KojiKnight]

So, just how scary is the film? I'm interested in seeing it but I can't handle jumpscares well. All other forms of horror I love, but jumpscares actually cause me physical pain so I avoid horror that relies on it. I've heard some people describe it as "Stranger Things but with gore." but Stranger Things wasn't scary at all, so I'm confused.

Very few jump scares (i counted 3). Most of the horror elements are in your face and meant to raise your heart rate/feel uncomfortable versus trying to make you jump out of your seat.

It's over 2 hours long, the ratio is pretty good

 

[Astral Dog]

Both and neither. 2017's Pennywise has the costume color correct (silver suit with orange pom poms), as well as the "horn-shaped" hair tufts on the side of Pennywise's head (even though book Pennywise didn't have that part on the top of his head, as other than the horn-shaped tufts, he was bald). From the descriptions we are given, he doesn't look "strange" as a clown, but is compared to familiar clowns like Bozo, Ronald McDonald and Clarabell (from Howdy Doody), and oddly enough, 1990s Pennywise takes some cues from those guys (mainly Bozo and Ronald, especially with the hair and the makeup around the eyes). Looper basically went on a rundown regarding the new movie's characters in comparison to how they looked in the novel, even Pennywise.

Personally, I was under the impression that his appearance didn't look far off from a normal circus clown, not a pre-20th century clown like the 2017 Pennywise. Stephen King is a very descriptive writer, and had that been the case, he would've written the specifics regarding that, but to all those that see Pennywise, be it the Losers or some of the adults like at the Silver Dollar or during the Bradley Gang massacre, they don't mention out out of place its style is compared to their contemporary setting. The adults, in particular, that see Pennywise don't think, "Why is that clown dressed like it's the 18th century?" more than, "That's odd a clown is here. Is the circus in town?"

That and the odd thing I keep hearing people say that the "red balloons" are Pennywise's trademarks carried over from the novel itself. That's only a 2017 thing, as both in the mini-series and the actual novel, Pennywise had multi-colored balloons.

In an interview they said they chose the old clown outfit to represent ITs nature of not only being very old but around Derry for many years, and simply not bothered to change i think thats a very good explanation that fits with the book