Kaladesh cards are already in lol
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Magic: the Gathering |OT13| Ixalan - Port to Sideboard
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FreedomFrisbee
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If it isn't ready to go by Dominaria release with pack codes I'll be disappointed. I'm willing to guess they already have the pack codes lined up, as they would have to for printing, they're just haggling with what pack codes will actually give you.
Imperfected
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Badmander sounds like an amusing format for digital. It's not great in paper because it turns it into another card-churn format on rotation, so it would really only be playable for people who are maintaining close-to-full playsets of Standard legal sets, but that seems like it will be more feasible in Arena.
Bristling Hydra was in the monitor of one of the devs in one of the videos. So Kaladesh is definitely in, and they showed Amonkhet cards in the reveal video.
SigmasonicX
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There will be a ton coming out over the coming week. In particular, LSV's limited set reviews are pretty popular.
Infinite Stars
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I mean, all things considered I'd welcome a Llanowar Elves Reprint because in a world where Emrakul/Marvel/Copter/CoCo/Etc were fine to print, it's absurd that Mystic was deemed "Too format warping".
I totally get why they don't want it around, mirrors where you went T1 dork, pass, T1 dork pass, T2 cunning sparkmage, shoot your dork or t2 bonfire for 1 are.... not the nicest.
(I say this as someone whose two SCG T8s and PT invite were on the back of 1-mana dork decks)
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I have to imagine that the heavier tribal focus on Ixalan played a role in the choice for no big iconic creature types. If they made one of the green rares a Hydra, that's just one less rare for Dinosaurs.
Not that I'm complaining. Not every set needs Dragons, Hyrda, and Sphinxes.
Not that I'm complaining. Not every set needs Dragons, Hyrda, and Sphinxes.
All sets need sphinxes with sweet card draw effects
FreedomFrisbee
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Iconics are a relic of pre-internet advertising and research. There's a long established MtG thing that they put dragons in sets because research shows it helps sales. The way spoilers and advertising are done now coupled with the size of the market likely marginalize the appeal of any single card or art.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
the only good dragon printed since DTK is Glorybringer. No Iconic hurts.
So? There have been plenty of standards with no worthwhile dragons. Oh poor dragons, only have one of the best cards in the format
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I'm playing Scion in EDH, 1 dragon in over 2 years is a bad rate.
I play mono red dragon tribal how do you think I feel?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
GoutPatrol
Forgotten in his cell
Isn't that Hour of Promise?
blindrocket
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Always, bolt the bird.
Yep I posted about it above. The foiling is really bad and makes the card super dark and washed out. The foiling on a bunch of the foil HOU cards i have is the same way. My Hazoret's Undying Fury promo from prerelease is practically unreadable.
That's not true. They'd generally fit them where they could, but were never beyond not putting them in if they didn't make sense from a world-building perspective.
Theros, for example, didn't have any angels, because it didn't fit the world. They used Archons instead.
Tarkir didn't have any angels or sphinxes for similar reasons.
There were no sphinxes on Innistrad or Kaladesh and, now, none of the iconics on Ixalan (that we know of).
SigmasonicX
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I'm expecting them to find a bunch of iconics at the city of gold.
I have been trying to brew up a "Evasive Pirates" deck to counter the week one dino decks the people at my LGS seem to be excited to play. The goal would be to play the evasive pirates to try to trigger Admiral Bass' steal ability. I am having a hard time making it work though. Even though the meta at my LGS is mostly janky homebrews I think the creatures are too small. Does anything think there is a tier 3ish deck here?
Here is where I am at the moment.
https://deckstats.net/decks/90385/810873-evasive-pirates
Here is where I am at the moment.
https://deckstats.net/decks/90385/810873-evasive-pirates
Imperfected
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It feels like for Ixalan they wanted to forego not only iconics but really non-dinosaur creatures in general (even ones that are thematically ultra-appropriate like panthers, eagles, crocodiles, and feathered serpents) in favor of getting dino-tribe established.
Maybe Rivals will include more of the non-tribal creatures.
Maybe Rivals will include more of the non-tribal creatures.
I was losing to Pirates playing Approach. They were mostly just UB though I did run into one splashing red.
Big thing seemed to be turn 2 Fathom Fleet Captain with either a 1 drop on 1 or 3 in the form of Siren Stormtamer or Deadeye Tracker.
Think they also had Kitesails, Jace, Ruin Raider, and Pirate Leak. Duress and Spell Pierce in the SB.
Not sure how it would fare against other creature based decks though.
I'm pretty sure Dimir will end up being the best pirate build but it's hard not to splash for atleast Captivating Crew.
What about Kari Zev?
Wulfric
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Same here, mine is dark AF. It's a shame, because it's Moeller's last Magic piece and the colors look awful. You can't even get it in nonfoil.
Not sure about her. I have Fathom Fleet Captain in that slot which could possibly have higher upside because he makes 2/2 menace tokens and Kitesail has evasion and also hand disruption.
Here is the updated pirates list. The mana still seems to be a mess.
https://deckstats.net/decks/90385/810873-evasive-pirates
Deadeye Tracker seems a bit weak, are there no better 1c pirates? 3 mana for a simple bounce spell with some upsides is a bit much, too. Vraska's Contempt and Walk the Plank don't seem standard-worthy, why not push? Marauding Looter feels more like a draft card. Captivating Crew and Hostage Taker seem to overlap
at a first glance, I'd say the quality of the cards looks to be below RDW, and that's without the consistency of one color versus 3
at a first glance, I'd say the quality of the cards looks to be below RDW, and that's without the consistency of one color versus 3
the only other 1 drop pirates are the stormtamer which I have in there and the red one which is a 1/1 that gets a counter with raid.
I agree with Looter. Maybe replace it with Ruin Raider or Dreamcaller Siren?
As for beating RDW, I have attended every Showdown at my LGS since HOU and have never seen it played. People at my LGS play jank and budget versions of tier one decks.
I'm honestly not sure if loot is that much worse than draw and mandatory life loss. Also depend on the mana curve, I guess. It is almost a Dark Confident though, so technically it should be one of the best pirates
you could also try that one mana "reanimate a 2c creature" // "give a creature haste" card from HoD instead of the graveyard recursion card
maybe I'm super wrong about this, but I don't think that pirates are really quite there yet with set 1.
e: ah, it's not for a super competitive environment, ignore the last sentence
The March of the Drowned was because of Looter discarding cards combined with the small bodies on a lot of the pirates. In fact I think going down the Looters and going up to a full 4 Stormtamers with the ability to keep getting them back two at a time seems pretty enticing.
problem with the Stormtamer is that you need to keep one mana open all the time, which is terribly akward in an aggro deck, and it won't do anything against sweepers. But it's a pretty cool combo with Hostage Taker, can buy you the time to cast the exiled card
what the deck is lacking is something to close off the game. RDW has the deserts, Hazoret, eternalize on top of the to-the-face burn spells
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
You can always play red deserts.
Best suggesting I can give is cutting a color. Probably red because you aren't getting a lot out of it. Captivating Crew looks like a disgusting card in limited, but I doubt its effectiveness in constructed when removal spells are flying all over the place. It dies to any 3 damage spell, of which there are many, and you'd need 8 mana to get immediate value out of it.
I agree. Seth just posted his tribal builds and I think the UB pirates one looks the best pirate build.
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/brewing-ixalan-tribes
Four pack drafts event coming.
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articl...ekend-and-ixalan-mid-season-league-2017-09-18
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articl...ekend-and-ixalan-mid-season-league-2017-09-18
One card I noticed that he's missing from all of his Pirate decks is Chart a Course. That card looks stupid good for a moderately aggressive deck.
Also, I'm unsure about Hostage Taker. It just seems like an off-color Fiend Hunter to me, which definitely isn't the worst thing, but I don't think you'll ever be casting the stuff you exile all that much when it only has 3 toughness and just enough CMC to die to revolt Fatal Push.
Dreamcaller Siren however seems like the real deal. It's much better on the attack than Hostage Taker and can remove two blockers for a turn instead of just one.
Carnage Tyrant is now preordering at $18, wow. And to think I didn't preorder it at $9 because I thought it was too expensive. Glad I got it for $13.
That's true. I was thinking specifically of Hydras that are suprisingly ubiquitous but the others were sometimes left out indeed.
That's true. I was thinking specifically of Hydras that are suprisingly ubiquitous but the others were sometimes left out indeed.