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[cackhyena]

A Nazi got slept. People shouldn't have a problem with this.

 

[Slayven]

Funny how fast Youtube acts when it wants to

 

[Shaanyboi]

Christopher Cantwell is currently facing felony assault charges and was denied bond as of August 31st. What "justice" can vigilantism deliver to him that the current system isn't already delivering?

Okay, where is the arrest of every other fucking Nazi at that rally?

 

[GregLombardi]

This debate boils down to whether you think we should be able to hunt people for their thoughts rather than arrest them for their actions. I think the answer is no. I think the Nazi deserved the punch, I do not think hunting him down sets a good precedent. The original person he fought with could have punched him and I wouldnt be voicing my concern, even if I may not have gotten into the physical altercation. It is the hunt that concerns me.

 

[Zelias]

I'd rather the state deal with Nazis via hate speech laws, but since in the US at least that's not happening I'll take guys like this puncher and antifa as the next best thing. When you align yourself with a movement that killed millions, you make yourself the enemy of all reasonable people.

 

[Username1198]

Okay, where is the arrest of every other fucking Nazi at that rally?

They were "peaceful" nazis.

 

[Straight Edge]

30 years from now there are going to be a lot of current day fence sitting moderates who will lie to their Grand kids about how they stood up against a modern day resurgence of Nazis and fascism. Better hope they don't know your internet handles because they'll see how you did nothing except excuse it.

Yeah there are a lot of Vichy motherfuckers in here.

 

[Beefy]

If I see a dude wearing a nazi armband he is either getting that shit ripped off or a slap.

 

[Briarios]

Made him take off his armband, thereby removing his Nazi ideology.

Removed his iconography; the ideology remains. In some ways, it's better we know who these guys are rather than them hiding in the shadows. While I'm all for the non violent approach, I do agree that they're dangerous.

 

[SparkleMotion]

Another excuse to post this gif.

I fucking love Nazis getting punched.

 

[NoRéN]

YouTube took THIS video down?

 

[JustenP88]

It's really weird to jump from threads about cops killing people into a thread like this where people are like "we should let the law handle this."

Motherfucker we talk all day about how the law has been built and cultivated by white supremacists what the fuck. All the sudden a Nazi gets punched and we've got "911" on speed dial while "fuck the police" is in our Twitter bios.

 

[hydrophilic attack]

I feel like physically attacking nazis because they may perform horrible acts is like imprisoning radical islamists (without a trial) and subjecting them to torture at a black site like Guantanamo Bay, because they may one day perform horrible acts.

You can be for it or you can be against. Wherever you fall on that, either is a valid viewpoint and you shouldn't shame people for having them. I was against preventative violence in the case of Guantanamo Bay. I hope you wouldn't shame me for that. And I hope you wouldn't shame me for being consistent in my views and being against preventative violence against nazis

 

[CHC]

Funny how fast Youtube acts when it wants to

Right? How convenient this is cited as "bullying" by them....

What a coincidence!

 

[WhiskerFrisker]

These two posts are ridiculous. Utterly ridiculous and why we cannot have civil fucking discourse on this board anymore. I speak up against violence and point out the logical fallacy in asking minorities to take up arms against white supremacists and I am called a racist afraid of a black rebellion. The kind of mental hoops you have to take to get there is astonishing.



On the contrary. I am glad people who are NOT minorities are upset about discrimination against minorities. Be it against people of color, creed or sexual orientation. What I was pointing out was that as a minority and as a person whose close circle is just simply more minorities, we NEVER talk about violence like this. Self defense, sure. But going out and punching nazis and other racists we deal with on a daily basis? Never. I just wanted to know if i have been living in my own bubble where we dont just go out looking for trouble.

I guess so.

But he thread isn't asking for minorities to commit violence against nazis. It's amusing seeing someone parade with a swastika armband and getting punched. Like, I'm not going to help the guy off the floor when he's looking for trouble.

 

[plagiarize]

Christopher Cantwell is currently facing felony assault charges and was denied bond as of August 31st. What "justice" can vigilantism deliver to him that the current system isn't already delivering?

When he apparently got pepper sprayed, what did that do to slow down or get in the way of justice?

 

[Pegasus Actual]

Why not exactly? Works quite well over here.

And First Amendment speech works quite well over here. In my opinion better than the euro-style hate speech laws.

Also, the Supreme Court would (rightfully) strike down those laws. So first you'd have to retake the court. I think even still the liberal judges on the court aren't willing to just ignore the First Amendment. So I don't think it's actually a plausible goal.

And finally... I mean it's just an election loser. Put that plank in the 2020 Dem platform and enjoy a two-term Trump.

 

[SparkleMotion]

I feel like physically attacking nazis because they may perform horrible acts is like imprisoning radical islamists (without a trial) and subjecting them to torture at a black site like Guantanamo Bay, because they may one day perform horrible acts.

i cant take it anymore get me off this planet plz

This is nowhere in the realm of being comparable.

 

[Imp the Dimp]

Here's a hypothetical:

How far do you think a brown dude with an ISIS armband would get?

Can't stress enough how the discourse on social media has shifted. Defending Nazis wasn't okay by any fucking means a couple of years ago. You run around with a swastika on your arm and get KTFO? Oh well, how unfortunate.

 

[besada]

On the contrary. I am glad people who are NOT minorities are upset about discrimination against minorities. Be it against people of color, creed or sexual orientation. What I was pointing out was that as a minority and as a person whose close circle is just simply more minorities, we NEVER talk about violence like this. Self defense, sure. But going out and punching nazis and other racists we deal with on a daily basis? Never. I just wanted to know if i have been living in my own bubble where we dont just go out looking for trouble.

I guess so.

This isn't a situation where people went out looking for trouble. This is a situation where people were alerted that a Nazi was harassing people and they went out and kicked his ass. No one disputes those basic facts, but everyone here seems to want to talk about something else.

Again, no one has asked you or anyone else to engage in violence about Nazis. I don't think most people care whether you agree with it or not. They certainly aren't trying to draft you into some sort of army. Your circle is your circle. If all of you think the best solution to Nazis in the street is do nothing, or protest, or prayer, that's fine.

 

[Crossing Eden]

This is pretty good:

 

[Slayven]

I feel like physically attacking nazis because they may perform horrible acts is like imprisoning radical islamists (without a trial) and subjecting them to torture at a black site like Guantanamo Bay, because they may one day perform horrible acts.

You can be for it or you can be against. Wherever you fall on that, either is a valid viewpoint and you shouldn't shame people for having them. I was against preventative violence in the case of Guantanamo Bay. I hope you wouldn't shame me for that. And I hope you wouldn't shame me for being consistent in my views and being against preventative violence against nazis

All nazis stand for is horrible acts

 

[Morrigan Stark]

Made him take off his armband, thereby removing his Nazi ideology.

He won't be harassing people openly anymore. It's a win. It's not like reasoned discourse would have removed his nazi ideology. Sooooo

 

[plagiarize]

I feel like physically attacking nazis because they may perform horrible acts is like imprisoning radical islamists (without a trial) and subjecting them to torture at a black site like Guantanamo Bay, because they may one day perform horrible acts.

You can be for it or you can be against. Wherever you fall on that, either is a valid viewpoint and you shouldn't shame people for having them. I was against preventative violence in the case of Guantanamo Bay. I hope you wouldn't shame me for that. And I hope you wouldn't shame me for being consistent in my views and being against preventative violence against nazis

If you don't think I can clearly see the vast gulf between a punch to the face and being detained and tortured indefinitely, then you're being willfully obtuse.

 

[aaaaa0]

Good. Nazis should be punched.

My only concern is that this is the USA: I worry that the lesson he takes from this is not that he shouldn't be a nazi, but that he should be carrying a gun, and the next time he goes out this escalates to a bunch of people getting shot.

 

[Javier23]

Name a few.

Any where the only one to eventually get killed will be a neo-Nazi resisting the state's authority.

 

[OléGunner]

What a good clean sweet hit.

 

[parrotbeak]

Okay, where is the arrest of every other fucking Nazi at that rally?

Did they even arrest all the ones who were filmed stomping that black guy in the parking garage?

 

[BitStyle]

If you don't think I can clearly see the vast gulf between a punch to the face and being detained and tortured indefinitely, then you're being willfully obtuse.

Pretty much

 

[Nekofrog]

I feel like physically attacking nazis because they may perform horrible acts is like imprisoning radical islamists (without a trial) and subjecting them to torture at a black site like Guantanamo Bay, because they may one day perform horrible acts.

You can be for it or you can be against. Wherever you fall on that, either is a valid viewpoint and you shouldn't shame people for having them. I was against preventative violence in the case of Guantanamo Bay. I hope you wouldn't shame me for that. And I hope you wouldn't shame me for being consistent in my views and being against preventative violence against nazis

Yes, let's just let Nazis spew their hate at random people on the bus and when we verbally confront them with no violence, let's get stabbed to death for it.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...dead-1-injured-after-stabbing-in-portland-ore

Shame.

 

[NoblesseOblige]

Funny how fast Youtube acts when it wants to

I assume the comment section was quick to hit it with a few billion flags and trigger some sort of automated take down.

 

[CHC]

If people start taking the law into their own hands it will end in chaos. There were at least 3 people there, wouldn't it be better if they immobilized him and hand him over to the police? Violence only leads to more violence.

They would have arrested the black people for detaining him

 

[ty_hot]

Im not just completely fine with that, I also applaud that. Well done.

 

[Calion]

Punching Nazis the best trend of 2017

 

[Shaanyboi]

I feel like physically attacking nazis because they may perform horrible acts is like imprisoning radical islamists (without a trial) and subjecting them to torture at a black site like Guantanamo Bay, because they may one day perform horrible acts.

You can be for it or you can be against. Wherever you fall on that, either is a valid viewpoint and you shouldn't shame people for having them. I was against preventative violence in the case of Guantanamo Bay. I hope you wouldn't shame me for that. And I hope you wouldn't shame me for being consistent in my views and being against preventative violence against nazis

Radical islamists aren't in the fucking white house. Radical islamists aren't getting easy pardons because "criticizing them will only entrench their views." No one is killed by a cop because that officer secretly has an ISIS flag in their basement.

 

[Chjemah]

He won't be harassing people openly anymore. It's a win. It's not like reasoned discourse would have removed his nazi ideology. Sooooo

Or next time he brings a weapon for self defense and someone gets killed. Doesn't that seem just as likely?

 

[cackhyena]

I assume the comment section was quick to hit it with a few billion flags and trigger some sort of automated take down.

What makes that different from any other abhorrent comments section on youtube? Place is a disaster.

 

[parrotbeak]

Yes, let's just let Nazis spew their hate at random people on the bus and when we verbally confront them with no violence, very let's get stabbed to death for it.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...dead-1-injured-after-stabbing-in-portland-ore

They should have hugged him and then he wouldn't have been able to stab.

 

[Gotdatmoney]

I still don't get where people think that that symbol isn't suppose to provoke a response. Like the whole point is to rile people up. Dude gets a response he doesn't like and suddenly the world is suppose to care that a dude wearing a swastika in 2017 got punched? Why should we feel bad for him? It's like not a slippery slope at all.

I've seen dudes get punched for talking mad shit and the squad was just like "he provoked it, talk shit, risk getting hit". A Nazi does it and we are going "this isn't the way!!" The way to what? Dude who threw the punch wasn't trying to end racism lol.

 

[SparkleMotion]

Good. Nazis should be punched.

My only concern is that this is the USA: I worry that the lesson he takes from this is not that he shouldn't be a nazi, but that he should be carrying a gun, and the next time he goes out this escalates to a bunch of people getting shot.

So you were beaten by domestic terrorism. Cool.

 

[LucidMomentum]

Did they even arrest all the ones who were filmed stomping that black guy in the parking garage?

Nope.

But of course, remember people we're supposed to believe the world is good and justice and police systems work properly 100% of the time.

Even when we have overwhelming evidence to the contrary, and if the world was a good place Nazism would've died out with Hitler.

But it's not. It didn't.

 

[Tain]

I feel like physically attacking nazis because they may perform horrible acts is like imprisoning radical islamists (without a trial) and subjecting them to torture at a black site like Guantanamo Bay, because they may one day perform horrible acts.

you, uh, got a bunch of footage of antifa kidnapping and waterboarding nazis?

 

[HiredN00bs]

He won't be harassing people openly anymore. It's a win. It's not like reasoned discourse would have removed his nazi ideology. Sooooo

Maybe he'll throw the first punch next time. Or use a weapon to bring physical harm to someone. Progress? I don't think you can say he won't harass people. Things worked out okay today. It's tomorrow I'm worried about.

 

[Temeculan3000]

And First Amendment speech works quite well over here. In my opinion better than the euro-style hate speech laws.

Also, the Supreme Court would (rightfully) strike down those laws. So first you'd have to retake the court. I think even still the liberal judges on the court aren't willing to just ignore the First Amendment. So I don't think it's actually a plausible goal.

And finally... I mean it's just an election loser. Put that plank in the 2020 Dem platform and enjoy a two-term Trump.

Given the wording in the First Amendment,t it would take another constitutional amendment to successfully implement hate speech laws that would not be ruled un-constitutional by the Supreme Court.

 

[NoblesseOblige]

What makes that different from any other abhorrent comments section on youtube? Place is a disaster.

My point was that Youtube's comment section is a place full of bigots and racists. They all got triggered by the video and flagged it, causing an automated process to take it down for review.

 

[dallow_bg]

That’s cool.

 

[creatchee]

The only thing this Nazi asshole will learn of this is to carry pepper spray or something even more dangerous the next time he's going to harass people on the street.

Never underestimate the spiral of violence.

And depending on the circumstances and location of the shooting, the Nazi will get off with self defense.

Look, I'm not saying that seeing that smug fuck getting his lights put out didn't bring a smile to my face, but the fact is that hateful and dangerous people are going to watch this video and see the online organization behind the entire scenario and react completely different than most of us are. Their reaction is going to be arming themselves and firing before the next punch comes. And then we'll be yelling about the inequities of our justice system in another thread where another white dude gets off for killing another black guy in self defense or "standing his ground". There's bigger picture stuff at play here than satisfaction at Nazi comeuppance.

 

[Sparkedglory]

I mean. One part of me says that we shouldn't resort to violence....but another part of me says fuck Nazis and that they should get their ass beat.

 

[darscot]

Watching the video I just can't bring myself to care. The guy was a fucking idiot and took a punch for it. I'm not violent and I have never enjoyed it. That being said I have respect for the people that do when the rules are followed. You go limp, tap out, say the word the fight is over. You stand on the street wearing that armband and your looking for a fight. I don't feel bad because he lost one when it found him.

 

[SparkleMotion]

Maybe he'll throw the first punch next time. Or use a weapon to bring physical harm to someone. Progress?

You can live in fear if you want. If a nazi walks my way literally wearing a nazi armband, I'm putting him on the ground.