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It's his best movie though.
Sicario is by far his worst, but I haven't seen Polytechnique and Maelström, so they could be worse I guess.

Yeah if anything Enemy is the movie I would be pointing at to say why Villeneuve is a good fit for Blade Runner. I'm not as enthralled with him as many on here but he's definitely an expert at crafting a mood in his works. Though I think Villeneuve specialises in tension where are as Blade Runner is more about letting the atmosphere, the world and a sense of alienation wash over you.

 

[iPaul93]

I agree with everyone here.The movie looks way too clean.

 

[GiantEnemyGoomba]

People are just setting themselves to be disappointed with the comparisons to the original since Scott and Villeneuve are just different types of director. They probably could've copied the look of BR but Deakins is a madman and wanted to experiment with color more. He doesn't do a lot of not realistic stuff, so I kinda like the decision and I'm sure it'll be beautiful if the trailers are anything to go by. I'm also confident Villeneuve's knack for pacing scenes well to create atmosphere and tension will be right at home here and make for a very enjoyable watch.

 

[Reedirect]

It's his best movie though.
Sicario is by far his worst, but I haven't seen Polytechnique and Maelström, so they could be worse I guess.

Polytechnique is terrible and borderline disrespectful. Watching it makes it very hard to believe that the same director also made masterworks like Enemy or Arrival.

 

[Poimandres]

I've only watched the first two trailers, and they weren't particularly convincing. But, the quality of the talent involved here is surely enough to conclude we're going to get something a whole lot more interesting than a Total Recall or Robocop reboot. Cautiously optimistic I guess?

 

[CosmicGroinPull]

Same.

It's great that they made a sequel and I hope it does well, but the trailers have done nothing for me.

 

[Blade30]

Same.

It's great that they made a sequel and I hope it does well, but the trailers have done nothing for me.

For anyone that's not interested or not sure if they want to see this movie it's not good if the trailers doesn't sell them to so see it. As I've only seen the first trailer (which was solid), I have no idea how the other trailers and I don't care since I'm already going to see it because it's Blade Runner and made by Villeneuve (+ Deakins). It's also worth noting that trailers usually show most of the action scenes especially in movies that don't have that much action scenes to begin with.

 

[Dynamite Shikoku]

My expectations for this have gotten lower and lower

 

[HariKari]

First clip:

https://youtu.be/iUhua8vIIkw

Hope rising a bit.

 

[captjohnboyd]

Hope rising a bit.

I've been on board since Denis was announced but the run time being so long (making it easier to cut trailers that look action heavy when in fact the movie may not be much more cerebral) and this clip have me even more intrigued.

I have a pretty strong suspicion where they are heading with the plot, thematically at least, and I'm very much behind it.

 

[JB1981]

First clip:

https://youtu.be/iUhua8vIIkw

Ok ok I'm feeling this

 

[Drahcir]

http://theplaylist.net/composer-johann-johannsson-confirmed-off-blade-runner-2049-20170912/

Confirmed. I'm not sure if this is bleak news or if we still good.

 

[FreshCakes]

Don't know if this is legit or not but apparently Sean Young did some low key filming for the movie.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/sean-young-secretly-filmed-scenes-blade-runner-sequel-article-1.3498476

 

[jett]

First clip:

https://youtu.be/iUhua8vIIkw

First time I see this. This movie is going to weird places.

 

[JB1981]

First time I see this. This movie is going to weird places.

In a recent interview Villenevue states flat-out that he thinks this is the best movies he's ever made. You don't hear directors talk about their own movies like that often. Maybe we're in for something special!

 

[Turbo Killer]

One of the movies that I wanted to see on the big screen before I die, and I get to see it on the biggest one, fuck yeah!

 

[Get'sMad]

163 minutes

lol

this looks so bad

 

[JB1981]

One of the movies that I wanted to see on the big screen before I die, and I get to see it on the biggest one, fuck yeah!

Awesome dude! I saw it in theaters earlier this year but not in IMAX. It was amazing on the big screen. Enjoy!

 

[Shaanyboi]

163 minutes

lol

this looks so bad

what about that runtime is worth "lol"?

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

In a recent interview Villenevue states flat-out that he thinks this is the best movies he's ever made. You don't hear directors talk about their own movies like that often. Maybe we're in for something special!

Holy fuck.

 

[More_Badass]

So what's the likelihood this is pulling a Mother/Drive/etc and presenting the movie as an action movie blockbuster when it'll be more of a thriller?

 

[Beer Monkey]

Awesome dude! I saw it in theaters earlier this year but not in IMAX. It was amazing on the big screen. Enjoy!

Warning. The Final Cut DCP is from a 2K DI. The last time I saw an Imax 2D experience of a 2K DI there was noticeable aliasing due to the giant pixel size; the screen was just too big.

I'd sit in the back row.

 

[JB1981]

Holy fuck.

Yep! For reference thanks to the NYT


https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile...n-ford-ridley-scott-denis-villeneuve.amp.html


Were you nervous about potentially tarnishing the legacy of “Blade Runner”?

SCOTT Art’s like the shark — you’ve gotta keep moving, otherwise you drown.

VILLENEUVE Once I made peace with the idea [that] what I was about to try was insanely difficult and my chances of success were very narrow, I became free. It’s the best movie I’ve ever made, I think. But I know it’s going to be compared to the first one. And I’m nervous. I’m still waking up sometimes in the morning, thinking to myself, “Oh God! I just made a sequel to ‘Blade Runner!’ What the [expletive]!?”

 

[Get'sMad]

what about that runtime is worth "lol"?

it could be good! but that just seems waaay too long and everything about this looks really flat, and staid?

the original is such a meditative and beautiful film

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

Oh my god.

 

[duckroll]

So what's the likelihood this is pulling a Mother/Drive/etc and presenting the movie as an action movie blockbuster when it'll be more of a thriller?

None of the trailers look like an "action blockbuster" so much as a scifi thriller with a fair share of action. This is a known franchise, with a known tone. At worst commercially, it ends up being something like Ang Lee's Hulk. No one is going to walk out of this going "what the fuck was that" because that's.... not what Villeneuve makes.

it could be good! but that just seems waaay too long and everything about this looks really flat, and staid?

the original is such a meditative and beautiful film

Villeneuve films are all rather long. Part of the reason is that he really likes long lingering shots for atmosphere and to establish setting. It's not really unusual given his body of work.

 

[More_Badass]

None of the trailers look like an "action blockbuster" so much as a scifi thriller with a fair share of action. This is a known franchise, with a known tone. At worst commercially, it ends up being something like Ang Lee's Hulk. No one is going to walk out of this going "what the fuck was that" because that's.... not what Villeneuve makes.

Other than Enemy

But I mean in terms of the trailers, they've been putting a pretty big emphasis on action

 

[JB1981]

None of the trailers look like an "action blockbuster" so much as a scifi thriller with a fair share of action. This is a known franchise, with a known tone. At worst commercially, it ends up being something like Ang Lee's Hulk. No one is going to walk out of this going "what the fuck was that".

But that's exactly what people said after Ang Lee's Hulk heh

 

[MoonsaultSlayer]

Every frame of the these commercials I've been seeing makes the film seem so empty compared to the denseness of the original. Makes me skeptical.

 

[Gaogaogao]

I wish this wasn't an action movie?

 

[kukubrew]

First clip:

https://youtu.be/iUhua8vIIkw

Kipple everywhere. Love it.

 

[BotoxAgent]

oh good i hope this isnt one of those super high stakes end of the world type of plots. i loved the small story set in a huge dense world that the first one did.

 

[More_Badass]

Every frame of the these commercials I've been seeing makes the film seem so empty compared to the denseness of the original. Makes me skeptical.

To be fair

1) A lot can change in 30 years

2) The movie also takes places in Las Vegas, not just Los Angeles

 

[duckroll]

But that's exactly what people said after Ang Lee's Hulk heh

Not along the lines of Drive or Mother! at all. People didn't get the superhero movie they wanted, but they still got a superhero movie.

 

[MoonsaultSlayer]

To be fair

1) A lot can change in 30 years

2) The movie also takes places in Las Vegas, not just Los Angeles

True. After posting, I realized it's not unlike the gritty, dense depiction of New York streets in the 80s compared to the cleaner, "empty" vibe of the present.

It's just not visually pleasing but we'll see.

 

[Wolfe]

Looks like Harrison Ford is gonna ruin the last iconic 80;s role he has left as well

Eh, Ridley Scott did that himself by getting that "Deckard is a replicant!" shit going (of course I know what you really mean with that line). The fact that he's apparently saw fit to dictate that this new movie is based on the "fact" he decided on all on his own seems pretty petty to me.

Not a huge deal obviously but for me the story loses a lot of it's impact if Deckard is a replicant (although it may help make the new movie better for it, who knows) but then again I already have the version of the movie that leaves that up to me so it's all good.

I'm curious to see this but at the same time it does disappoint me a bit going in knowing it's going to revolve around that plot point when the movie it's a sequel to doesn't share that same plot point.

If it ends up exceeding my expectations, or hell even blowing them away? Well shove some unused footage of a unicorn from Legend into me and call me a replicant.

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

Harrison Ford is ruining his character enough all by himself by wearing fucking pajamas throughout the whole movie.

But it's part of the BR tradition, Ford was terrible in the original.

 

[duckroll]

Eh, Ridley Scott did that himself by getting that "Deckard is a replicant!" shit going (of course I know what you really mean with that line). The fact that he's apparently saw fit to dictate that this new movie is based on the "fact" he decided on all on his own seems pretty petty to me.

This is factually untrue though? This movie is not about Deckard being a replicant. Villeneuve doesn't even like the idea that Scott made Deckard a replicant in the Final Cut. He accepts that it is Scott's personal interpretation, but he has said that this movie is made with the intent of keeping it ambiguous. Ford doesn't like Deckard being a replicant and he plays the role ignoring that. Villeneuve said the film will show Deckard in a way where you can still read it however you want, but won't confirm it either way.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

So what's the likelihood this is pulling a Mother/Drive/etc and presenting the movie as an action movie blockbuster when it'll be more of a thriller?

98%

 

[JB1981]

This is factually untrue though? This movie is not about Deckard being a replicant. Villeneuve doesn't even like the idea that Scott made Deckard a replicant in the Final Cut. He accepts that it is Scott's personal interpretation, but he has said that this movie is made with the intent of keeping it ambiguous. Ford doesn't like Deckard being a replicant and he plays the role ignoring that. Villeneuve said the film will show Deckard in a way where you can still read it however you want, but won't confirm it either way.

From the Times interview:


SCOTT Deckard is a [expletive] replicant. Harrison can’t disagree now, because the whole premise of this new plot is based on the fact that he’s a replicant. I’m more amused by this than anything.

 

[duckroll]

From the Times interview:


SCOTT Deckard is a [expletive] replicant. Harrison can’t disagree now, because the whole premise of this new plot is based on the fact that he’s a replicant. I’m more amused by this than anything.

Good thing Ridley Scott isn't directing and writing this then. Because...

http://www.slashfilm.com/blade-runner-2049-denis-villeneuve-interview/2/

There are multiple cuts of the original film. Which one of those were you making a sequel to?

The thing is, I was raised with the first one. For me, there was one Blade Runner. At the time, there was no internet; there was no [film critic] A.O. Scott. I remember seeing the first movie and falling deeply in love with it. It became, for me, an instant classic. Me and my friends were deeply in love with it. I remember a few months later reading a review of the movie that was very bad. I became so angry because I felt the critic was all wrong because he felt that the adaptation of Phillip K. Dick’s novel was not right. I totally disagreed.

Later on, I discovered what Ridley’s initial dream was and I really loved Ridley’s version, too. The thing is, the key to make this movie was to be in-between. Because the first movie is the story of a human falling in love with a designed human being and the story of the other cut is the story of a replicant who doesn’t know he’s a replicant and slowly discovers his own identity. Those are two different stories. I felt like the key to dealing with that was in the original novel.

In the novel, the characters are doubting about themselves; they are not sure if they are replicants or not. For time to time, they’re running the Voigt-Kampff on themselves to make sure they’re humans. I love that idea. I decided that the movie would be on that side, too, that Deckard in the movie is as unsure as we are about what his identity is. I love that because I love mystery. That’s an interesting thing to me: not the knowing who he is or not but the doubt. Harrison and Ridley are still arguing about that. If you put them in the same room, they don’t agree. They start to talk to very loud. So I sat in the middle, like, “Welp.”

 

[Jarmel]

Yep! For reference thanks to the NYT

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile...n-ford-ridley-scott-denis-villeneuve.amp.html

There's a longstanding disagreement about whether Deckard is a replicant between Ridley, who says he is, and Harrison, who has maintained that he isn't.

VILLENEUVE Harrison and Ridley are still arguing about this. I witnessed some discussion at dinner we had in Budapest, and it was fantastic. The idea that you're unsure if you were designed or you are a real subject, a real human being — that tension is interesting. I'm not interested in the answer. I like the fact that the movies are playing on that ambiguity instead of taking one side or the other.

FORD It comes up somewhere around the end of the second drink. It always comes up somehow. When we were making the first film, the conversation really was only for Ridley and myself. Somehow it got into the general conversation, because people were curious about that, and I think that's a good thing. The story, I think your options ... are somewhat preserved, for the audience.

SCOTT Deckard is a [expletive] replicant. Harrison can't disagree now, because the whole premise of this new plot is based on the fact that he's a replicant. I'm more amused by this than anything.

GOSLING They had this virtual reality experience at ComicCon where you could walk around in the world of ”Blade Runner," and these machines would read whether you were a replicant or not. We went in it, and I did see Harrison's reading. I'm not at liberty to discuss it. But I know what he is.

Welp there's that. Thank you fucking Scott for ruining that plot point.

Good thing Ridley Scott isn't directing and writing this then. Because...

http://www.slashfilm.com/blade-runner-2049-denis-villeneuve-interview/2/

Scott spells it out pretty clearly. It might be a spoiler or something but he words it really definitively in that interview.

 

[Fluffhead14]

feel like the "action movie" thing is being overblown. it's not like every trailer has a host of new action scenes- they're all pretty much the same from trailer to trailer.

 

[duckroll]

Scott spells it out pretty clearly. It might be a spoiler or something but he words it really definitively in that interview.

Scott is a known shittalker. He says shit to get a rise out of other people. In this case, Ford. I mean, the movie could come out, and there could be completely no evidence that he is or isn't a replicant, and people would still come back to this line and said "Scott said it, so it is fact!" and I think that's stupid.

 

[Beer Monkey]

Scott is a known shittalker. He says shit to get a rise out of other people. In this case, Ford. I mean, the movie could come out, and there could be completely no evidence that he is or isn't a replicant, and people would still come back to this line and said "Scott said it, so it is fact!" and I think that's stupid.

He's a megalomaniac cunt. See Covenant. He will happily destroy his own legacy to appease his delusions of grandeur. He doesn't care, at all, about keeping narrative (including character behavior) and plot consistent.

Hope he's as hands off as possible with this film

He's sort of like George Lucas, but different. Doesn't care about changing the old films, but is happy to retcon logic and sense. Fuck him.

 

[AudioEppa]

I've never seen the first movie. But from looking at the teaser of this one, I don't want to see any more orgasmic visuals that can ruin the experience watching for the first time.

 

[Ross61]

He's a megalomaniac cunt. See Covenant. He will happily destroy his own legacy to appease his delusions of grandeur. He doesn't care, at all, about keeping narrative (including character behavior) and plot consistent.

Hope he's as hands off as possible with this film

He's sort of like George Lucas, but different. Doesn't care about changing the old films, but is happy to retcon logic and sense. Fuck him.

Jesus....

 

[KayMote]

Hm, don't feeling it. I just recently got to see the original Blade Runner for the very first time in my life and what that movie did for me was presenting a feeling of wonder for its technology and facing it with a passionate sense of melancholy. This movie here just stays... cold.

 

[QUICKSAVE]

I'd be happy with two hours of the Nexus Dawn short over this.

 

[Poimandres]

Hm, don't feeling it. I just recently got to see the original Blade Runner for the very first time in my life and what that movie did for me was presenting a feeling of wonder for its technology and facing it with a passionate sense of melancholy. This movie here just stays... cold.

I think it LOOKS cold, but let's wait until the film is actually out before passing judgement!