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Shootmember 2 Wrasslin |OT| :Shoot from the Hip When in Heated Verbal Exchanges
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serenewarfare
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I told you guys that Charlotte vs. Ronda was the match. Not Steph.
thats for mania
serenewarfare
Banned
Charlotte vs. Ronda is probably the WM match. 4HW vs. 4HW comes first.
I think they should have their bigger classic wrestling types all moved to Raw, and have the indy type multi talent guys moves to smackdown.
Bring Finn and Hardys, Jericho when he is around, Seth and so forth to Smackdown and have guys like Jinder, Corbin, Rowan, Harper and so forth to Raw and call up some to fill in also.
Give each show its own vibe
serenewarfare
Banned
Definitely makes Storm winning the 5 Star GP make more sense. Still kinda reads as an attempt for Stardom to try and keep her though.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Toni is really young and there's no real reason to bring her in when they know they can at almost any time they want. It will happen though. They don't fly people from Japan to sit in the crowd for no reason.
serenewarfare
Banned
She's still under Stardom contract anyways, so she couldn't possibly be signed yet.
Of course there's a reason to bring her in. They have incredibly shallow women's divisions and she is one of the best in the world and checks all their boxes.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
They aren't going to bring in a billion people into NXT at once and Storm absolutely would be an NXT recruit and not a straight to main roster thing.
They just brought Kairi in and a bunch of other girls coming off the MYC. Even when they had all four of the horsewomen they were the only ones doing much of anything. Once Cross and Moon move on, it will be a bit more open I'd think. Because right now they have the Iconic Duo, Cross, Moon, Sane, Kai, and a bunch of others who don't even get on TV as it is. Not to mention they may want to bring in Shayna Baszler.
serenewarfare
Banned
I'd bet Shayna isn't in NXT at all. If she is, I'd bet on it being a very short run. They're or going to run a main roster 4HW vs. 4HW match with Shayna as an NXT talent.
And in terms of talent, Storm is above all but the very top of the women in the MYC (and NXT for that matter). She's worth bringing in irrelevant of who you already have signed. It's like that dumb shit when they turned away Ricochet because "well we already have a lot of guys, so why would we want him".
And even then, they aren't signing that many women from the tournament. Mostly just the ones they already had (of which only a few are ready for TV), plus four or five more.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
All I'm saying is that they've never used more than like 4 people for TV and they have like 8 regularly getting time.
serenewarfare
Banned
My point is that Toni is of a level of talent that you make room for. You don't turn her away at the door because you're already full.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
So was AJ Styles and they waited until he was 40. Toni is like 22 and there isn't nearly the mobility in women's wrestling as there is in men's wrestling where you can make a lot of money if you can get in on NJPW or something.
serenewarfare
Banned
If WWE's mentality on what gets over was ten years ago what it is now, AJ would have been there ages ago.
There's is essentially no comparison between the two situations.
Got the survey even though I wasn't subscribed. Told them I'd pay more for TNA TNA TNA and that's a SHOOOOOOT.
Then I noticed I had a three month trial in there so I can watch the rest of the year's PPVs. So I resubbed. Got damn. Vince won't get my 9.99 on December 27th, but I'll watch more Nitro. Looks like I left off in February 1999 son.
Then I noticed I had a three month trial in there so I can watch the rest of the year's PPVs. So I resubbed. Got damn. Vince won't get my 9.99 on December 27th, but I'll watch more Nitro. Looks like I left off in February 1999 son.
half a moon
Banned
They aint giving me 3 months again probably 
These dinosaur chicken tenders are goodish not really
Maybe in the oven
These dinosaur chicken tenders are goodish not really
Maybe in the oven
They aint giving me 3 months again probably
These dinosaur chicken tenders are goodish not really
You should try to see if you can get that three month gimmick son.
TheChuggernaut
Banned
No joke, I just realized they did this shit with Goldust
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Well, I mean they don't have her signed so they agree with me, don't they? If they thought getting her in was the biggest priority they would be making whatever moves they did to do it.
They still flew her in to the MYC finals so it's a virtual inevitability.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Other Promotions: Historic and new programming from ICW, PROGRESS, New Japan Pro-Wrestling, or other regional Indie promotions
Got wwf's questionaire too, they consider NJPW an indie promotion, pretty eye rolling
That said, they had *tons* of good ideas in the questionaire. Only thing is I remember them having just as many the last time they sent one of these things to me, and they didn't act on any of them. Not that I'd reup while vince is running things anyway
NJPW is basically an ultra indie in the US.
half a moon
Banned
I have like 4 accounts they gave me 3 months on two a while back
Sir_Crocodile
Member
it's regional, but it's hardly an indie promotion - they're owned by a pretty large company in bushiroad and have tv in both Japan and America (don't think AXS is nationally available though?).
though indie is hard to define these days I guess. ROH has tv and is owned by a juggernaut
Yeah, shitty indie level tv. They weren't even on TNA's level until a few years ago when TNA sunk past Spike. They're a great promotion but they aren't anything but a very large indie outside of Japan. And that's fine. They'll continue to grow and expand if they do well.
half a moon
Banned
Your moms indie
serenewarfare
Banned
She's under contract with Stardom through at least the next few months so they literally couldn't sign her even if they wanted to.
half a moon
Banned
She'd be signed if she wasn't under contract
HashtagLapsed
Member
Yeah that would make more sense regarding her Stardom business we spoke about briefly last night.
It is an interesting time ahead to be sure.
I just hope they don't fuck it up.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Finally saw this racist promo.
With all the media scrutiny, wonder if this'll spook vince into switching the title to nakamura, which I assume was not originally the plan.
That's kinda my point. If wwf did a tour of a country where they had no exposure I wouldn't consider them an indie there lol. But whatever, semantics
With all the media scrutiny, wonder if this'll spook vince into switching the title to nakamura, which I assume was not originally the plan.
That's kinda my point. If wwf did a tour of a country where they had no exposure I wouldn't consider them an indie there lol. But whatever, semantics
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't know why it wouldn't have been the plan. There's no one else on the roster left to even do a match with for the title. Styles has the US title, Orton took 3 straight pins from Jinder, and Owens is a heel which WWE almost never does. Roode I guess but he's had like 2 matches total on the main roster.
half a moon
Banned
Respect the maha raja
Sir_Crocodile
Member
So nakamura would have still had two to go!
More like maha raCIST
half a moon
Banned
Jinder could face sami next
Vince doesn't give a fuck otherwise he would have done something during the Mauro controversy.
He'll continue to get away with this kind of shit unless either sponsors or shareholders do something about it
The kids are alright
and fucking lol at Data's "NJPW DON'T PUSH OMEGA!!" thing, the dude is the only foreigner to win the G1, has had multiple main event title matches, headlining big shows over the last 2 years and is the focal point of their international expansion.
But I guess since Cody got that 1 filler title shot against Okada and shows up like 3 times a year he's definitely in line for the big belt before Kenny.
I suppose Kenny and Cody will get to beat autopilot *** mode Suzuki this year.
and fucking lol at Data's "NJPW DON'T PUSH OMEGA!!" thing, the dude is the only foreigner to win the G1, has had multiple main event title matches, headlining big shows over the last 2 years and is the focal point of their international expansion.
But I guess since Cody got that 1 filler title shot against Okada and shows up like 3 times a year he's definitely in line for the big belt before Kenny.
I suppose Kenny and Cody will get to beat autopilot *** mode Suzuki this year.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
That was different as it was all behind the scenes and could be disputed, especially as Mauro never came right out and buried them.
This is closer (though not to the same level) to the Muhammed Hassan situation, as it was a promo aired on national television, they can't get around that it happened
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The reason I don't see Roode getting it over Nak was they gave Nak clean wins over Orton and Cena and Roode doesn't have anything like that.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Who do you prefer, Kenny or Omega?
I expect roode will have a program with ziggles for a while.
My original assumption was mahal vs nak till survivor series, aj dropping the us belt to corbin and then aj vs mahal, aj going over at the rumble with nak taking out the singh brothers and then aj nak at mania for the world title
It appears I am the
EDIT: Wew that Patrick Clark gimmick is main roster death on a level above a Tyler Breeze. Good luck to the lad.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I mean I would be surprised if Nakamura/Styles doesn't happen at WM simply because nobody else is close to popular enough on that side of the roster.
WWE (well J.R) wanted AJ Styles since 2005 and AJ always said no. He only said yes once he felt that it was the right time and even then Vince was sure convinced no one would know who he was at the Rumble.
AJ took the time to be seasoned without burning bridges, experiencing everything a wrestler could be both the good and the bad and it made him be worth so much. He skipped NXT, he has value, prestige, reputation and it helped. Granted it's not going to work for every wrestler many exist for the moment and need to be captilised on then and now but the talented know they don't have to rush.
WWE is bloated with talent is knows nothing to do with. WWE are themselves growing impatient and sometimes it can be for the best to watch from the outside and see how it all plays out. You all turn on the talent eventually , grow bored of them, get fed up of the dire booking, so why rush to see that happen?
HashtagLapsed
Member
Patrick Clark was green as goose shit when I saw him a year or so ago. Just shoulder barging with the other guy selling and making him look good. Not sure if he has improved or what.
excelsiorlef
Member
A whole lot. He mad MOTN against Black at the NXT House show I went to
reptilescorpio
Member
Was that the NXT tour? His gimmick was spot on though, dude worked the crowd great. Enough time on TV with NXT should get his ring work in shape.
On that note what happened to Buddy Murphy, he was amazing at the house show, way better than his Dubstep Bro shit :/
NXT roster is ridiculously crowded, there are nearly a dozen guys waiting to debut or re-debut on NXT tv
reptilescorpio
Member
NXT TV is so lean they should let the undercard do stuff to put up on Youtube, low fi stuff where they can bounce ideas off each other that doesn't need to be A+ quality writing. Just try some shit and see where they end up rather than not existing in the meantime.
Basically gimme early ROH stuff lol
Tapings are already 4 hour long though, I don't think anything can be done without having to invest/bleed more money
HashtagLapsed
Member
Sweet, happy to hear it.
Yeah, the NXT tour here last year. I suppose it was in December. This year has gone frighteningly quick. I really liked him and his character, just one of those things I noticed.
Not sure what they are doing with Buddy Murphy. He can really go and is an awesome worker. He never really got to show off what he can do on NXT TV either compared to what I have seen of him. I think he actually has a "NXT's best kept secret" kind of gimmick going but hasn't gotten to show it yet.