Framerate looks terrible there, Doom looks much smoother from the videos.
I agree that Doom looks great. If Sony released a portable as powerful people would be praising it to high heaven and back.
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DigitalFoundry analysis of DOOM for Nintendo Switch
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Framerate looks terrible there, Doom looks much smoother from the videos.
I agree that Doom looks great. If Sony released a portable as powerful people would be praising it to high heaven and back.
lmao...imma just buy it and support it just to see you cry more
Liabe Brave
Member
That's not really the choice, though. People were playing handheld Doom over a year ago when it released. Nowadays those with a PS4 Pro can even play at 60fps.
But why is this "impressive" rather than just "expected"? The game not only runs at half the framerate, it also runs at a quarter the resolution, and with graphical effects turned down across the board. That seems to match pretty well with the hardware having a third of the performance.
Mister Megative
Banned
reelbigtink
Member
DF says it's a good port and I trust them. Bought.
I was waiting for someone to point out the irony of this statement.
Fact is, if you're not buying exclusives, the PC version of a game craps on a console in most cases, which includes the PS4 Pro and the upcoming Xbox One X. And neither system have the benefit of being portable like the Switch.
What exactly is different or negative about the switches analog sticks?
dugdug
Banned
hmmm, any word on the input lag?
The glixel video looks a BIT off, like 3 frames of input lag
slowed down
or is the joycon's deadzone that big. (i'd say the 3rd frame of the video - which is recorded in 30 fps too - is when the stick is definitely pushed sufficiently far)
It's really hard to tell. But input lag would be a much bigger issue to me than 30fps.
Oof, that slowed down GIF hurts.
30 FPS with input lag. Get all the way out of here with that.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
Member
What if I want to play it on the train on my way to work? Is the PC version worth it? Come on
now
The Futurist
Member
I'm seeing you can't imagine a scenario in which I built my gaming PC after the game released on consoles.
The PC version was one of the first games I bought. Plus it's always on sale, which makes it even better.
What are they charging for the switch version? $60? Again, no thanks.
I guess that's the difference between you and me. I would never subject myself to that. Playing a game that has been compromised to this degree on a train does not appeal to me.
/clapping
Opinons and as have been pointed out, the Switch is a portable so you can take the game without you and play as long as the battery holds. For some, that is worth more than 60 frame rate or high-tier graphics.
It's an important point. I watched the video and it seems like it's less of the usual in-depth DF analysis and more "first impressions" based on video streams as well as some brief playthroughs. I'm looking forward to DF having this game in house so they can really put it through the paces and answer some of the questions that are still open.
Niceguydan8
Member
No, I'm just going based off of what you said. DOOM on PS4/X1 was still inferior compared to PC even when you didn't have a gaming PC. Anyone that cares about that sort of thing was probably well aware of that when they purchased the game.
My point is, you say you don't support inferior ports, but you own a console copy of DOOM. That doesn't add up no matter how you try to spin it. DOOM on console has always been an inferior version of the product.
You clearly do support inferior versions of a game to an extent. There's nothing wrong with that, just don't claim that you don't.
Yeah id/Bethesda should've released Destiny 2 instead. 😛
I don't necessarily disagree with you, I have DOOM on PS4 and wanna double dip on PC soon for Ultrawide/100hz support and don't really have any interest in this myself, but it's certainly better than nothing. When I was a kid I mainly played PS2 and had no idea that the Xbox was more powerful- I think it's reasonable to think that people (especially younger players) who only have a Switch would take it over not being able to play at all and still enjoy themselves.
socksfelloff
Member
Tough crowd
moltonasty
Member
Not really. I already put over 30 hours into the PC version and play at either 1440p/144fps or 4k/60 and yet I'm still picking this up day 1. Easy decision for me.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
Member
So I don't know what you are doing on a Switch thread did you expect a tablet hardware to run Doom as good as a PC or PS4!?
MisterR
Member
That's because Sony would still have an actual home console to go along with it. Drop the fanboy persecution complex.
That's the thing a lot of people are missing from their report.
Once again DF is the best and worst thing to come to GAF.
Sodding_Gamer
Member
30fps is fine. Don't get the hate. More people playing this game then amazing. I'm sure some people on PC weren't able to play this at 60fps due to shitty setups, What's wrong with having a 30fps version on switch. I never thought we'd even get a current gen game like this on switch anyway.
I played this on PC at release and i'll deffo be double dipping. Looks fairly smooth at 30fps too anyway. I managed playing driveclub at 30 fps absolutely fine, so meh don't get the 60fps or bust argument.
I played this on PC at release and i'll deffo be double dipping. Looks fairly smooth at 30fps too anyway. I managed playing driveclub at 30 fps absolutely fine, so meh don't get the 60fps or bust argument.
schwabdizzle
Banned
I really don't have time for a second console, but man, Nintendo is making it very difficult for me to not purchase the Switch.
I know this DOOM was released at 60fps, but it's funny to see people implying it's always been a part of the series. The original game ran at 35fps.
I'd like to see that video done with all data comms turned off - wifi, bluetooth - and then compare to the Switch version.
I've played 50 hours on PC and I'm still getting this too. Switch and PC are completely different platforms in every way. This coming to the Switch took me by complete surprise as I thought the effort required to get this running on it would be too much hassle, but here it is running smooth in handheld mode. Far from anything you would call unplayable.
Some members need to listen to the feedback the journalists are saying about how it feels to play on the Switch instead of making assumptions its 'unplayable' without playing it themselves.
DOOM played with a controller (console or on PC) has generous amounts of assisted aim to help with the fast speed required to turn around with an analog stick.
Input lag is my concern though, but if its the same as on other platforms with a controller then I have no concerns.
The big attraction for the Switch version for me is I can play this in any room in the house, on the bus, and on breaks at work and no boot times to worry about thanks to sleep mode on handhelds like the PSP, Vita and now Switch being so fast to get back into a game and carry on where I left off. No hassles.
momshotdad
Member
I'm still crazy interested. My favorite game so far this gen on the go sounds unbelievable. I'm so incredibly excited haha.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Doom's trademark is lighting fast gameplay enabled by crisp, responsive controls. It's starting to look like they missed the target.
Davey Cakes
Member
I only watched the GameXplain video but honestly, I think Doom on Switch looks...acceptable? It might be a heavily compromised version but the appeal of Switch has always largely been the portable form factor and Doom in this form may actually be good enough, despite people's reservations.
Might be one of those things where you don't get it until you play it yourself.
I have my own reservations. After seeing the PS4 version it's hard to accept anything less smooth. We'll see.
Might be one of those things where you don't get it until you play it yourself.
I have my own reservations. After seeing the PS4 version it's hard to accept anything less smooth. We'll see.
ThisIsMyDogKyle
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I'm always baffled by people that imply streaming a game is even remotely the same as playing it natively, they weren't playing handheld Doom, they were playing console Doom streamed to a handheld screen, there's a very big difference, mainly being it requires you to have a good internet connection at all times, which simply isn't possible for most people.
mavericktopgun
Member
Remember the days when we got SNES and Genesis games like Street Fighter 2 and Mortal Kombat on the Gameboy? We were happy to play the 'same' game on the go.
Nowadays the people aren't happy with almost perfect ports that have lower framerate/resolution.
I don't care.
I buy the game.
Nowadays the people aren't happy with almost perfect ports that have lower framerate/resolution.
I don't care.
I buy the game.
Hey, no issues, it is what it is.
I don't understand half stuff that happens on here sometimes but it does seem to get in the way far more often than it should. It's entirely possible that I could have worded it better but it does seem to read differently to some other people than it does to me.
Anyway, I'm glad it's sorted. I'm pretty sure nobody died so no harm done. 😉
Oh God. People are still bringing up PS4 Remote play in Switch threads...
The videos look pretty damn awesome. Still waiting for confirmation/denial of gyro aiming.
kitchenmotors
Banned
What do you expect? Its the same overly dramatic crowd that cries and whines all the time.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Shinen: ~laughs~
Still might check it out.
Still might check it out.
Sodding_Gamer
Member
What instead of not supporting a console and not making the game so they can keep their 'reputation'. Get outta here with that shit.
Oh and also driving at 'lighting fast' speeds in driveclub seemed perfectly fine at 30fps.
I think it's a joke at this point.
mavericktopgun
Member
I really hope so...
IAmtheFMan
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Pilgrimzero
Member
Only 30 fps OMG so unplayable!
How did people even PLAY video games before we reached 60 fps?
And with a controller? Whaaattttt?
How did people even PLAY video games before we reached 60 fps?
And with a controller? Whaaattttt?
DeuceGamer
Member
Digital Foundry seem to be pretty impressed so why wouldn't people also be impressed? Personally, I'm not necessarily impressed, but I am glad to see it as there were lots of people that claimed it simply wasn't possible to run a game like Doom on Switch, regardless of the resolution/fps.
This is the whole pitch. Switch might as well be called the Nintendo TrainBoy. It is simply the best thing to ever happen to my commute.
Dark Cloud
Member
Yeah. The point of the Switch is to take Console like experiences on the go. If you don't want that then the Switch isn't really for you. You can still play it at home of course, but if you have a PC or whatever you'd be better off getting the game there.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
ToiletBoy.
Jaded Alyx
Member
I remember some people saying the Direct footage wasn't Switch footage...
Ah you're at it again.