The S8/S8+ renders at a lower resolution than the iPhone 8+/X by default.
(Besides which, almost all non-gaming tasks are CPU-bound and not resolution dependent.)
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iPhone 8 Is World's Fastest Phone (It's Not Even Close)
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The S8/S8+ renders at a lower resolution than the iPhone 8+/X by default.
(Besides which, almost all non-gaming tasks are CPU-bound and not resolution dependent.)
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Which of the geekbench scores quoted in the OP and in the original article were not CPU scores?
Sapiens
Member
The new processor actually delivers more battery life through efficiencies.
Yes but who keeps it at that res? And these generations would be the first.
The only tests they show? As you can see clearly looking at the browser? None of the CPU scores even go to 10,000....
Jazzy Network
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No. The 2014 6+ renders at the same resolution as the 8+ (2208 × 1242). So do the 6s+ and 7+.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
iPhone is faster. Fact.
Does it really matter? Nah not really.
More of a boon on a device like the iPad Pro where you might be doing some productivity stuff.
Also not like there was a huge cry from GS7 or iPhone 7 users that their phones were slow. Sure the newer phones are faster with better features.
Doesn't mean you should never upgrade. Just means most people don't need to rush for an upgrade every cycle. Wait till you run down your battery or crack your phone or something.
I'm much more interested in what Apple can do with this going forward in devices not named the iPhone like a new iPad Pro or Macbook Air.
Does it really matter? Nah not really.
More of a boon on a device like the iPad Pro where you might be doing some productivity stuff.
Also not like there was a huge cry from GS7 or iPhone 7 users that their phones were slow. Sure the newer phones are faster with better features.
Doesn't mean you should never upgrade. Just means most people don't need to rush for an upgrade every cycle. Wait till you run down your battery or crack your phone or something.
I'm much more interested in what Apple can do with this going forward in devices not named the iPhone like a new iPad Pro or Macbook Air.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
There is no 10000-point cap on the CPU score, if that's what you're implying. Aside from the Metal compute test (which was not included in the article in the OP), Geekbench is a CPU-only test on iOS. The Geekbench browser you linked shows the average score for an iPhone 8 is a bit over 9900; the site in the OP managed to score a hair over 10k. That just means their unit happened to score very slightly above average.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Their multi-core was at 10K a few days ago (and 8 was ahead by a margin of error). Now they've corrected it (chart updated 12h ago) to 9.9k. In comparison, their Metal scores are at 15k. All geekbench scores discussed so far have been CPU scores.
That one stays android exclusive.
Jazzy Network
Member
Do you really want to compare the iPhone to the note?
Jazzy Network
Member
No but you said it was exclusive but clearly it isn't.
This explains the ios but look at the S8 numbers. Looking at single core alone there's no way that is CPU only
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Deleted member 1235
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its so painfully obvious that someone like apple needs to crack the your phone is your pc problem. i so badly want to just go to work and plug in my phone to a docking station. i wonder how far off that really is
I don't understand your objection. Are you saying "there's no way the S8 single core CPU performance score is only 1966 while the iPhone 8's is around 4200"? Because that is actually correct.
sems4arsenal
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Isn't that always the case?
The issue is with most tasks the difference isn't noticeable. It is impressive none the less.
The issue is with most tasks the difference isn't noticeable. It is impressive none the less.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
It is CPU-only. Did I mention Apple's CPU is remarkable? ; )
No. In the OP the S8 score is 6300. On the geek bench browser the top single core score is 1900. The double is 6500, renderscript 8800. The S8 score is not CPU only...
There's a little variation between tests on the same kind of device and even the same device (background tasks, heat, all sorts of factors may make minor differences between runs). The score in the OP is Geekbench multicore - if the article in the OP got 6300 and the browser shows 6500, that's pretty comparable (and is still just a CPU test).
Microsoft tried that. It was an abject failure, and not just because of underpowered processors. A relatively powerful desktop PC is inexpensive and serves a very different use case than a phone. Then there are all sorts of problems with the UI switching from touch to mouse + keyboard and biometric authentication, etc. There's no way Apple is going to make an iPhone that transforms into a Mac when you dock it.
Why do you want this, beyond the gimmick?
~6500 vs. ~6300 is within the margin of error for multiple runs or multiple devices.
which is noteworthy because it's not always the case
Shadax the wizard
Member
Wait? So that one company that said they were ahead in chip technology wasnt telling me the truth? They betrayed me! I feel used and dirty! Oh god, why? WHY?!
The thing is, it will be still faster than next years high end android phone too. Apple has been destroying Android phones still 2 gens ahead. The 6S still beats the Note 8 in these tests.
It's not an Android thing. Apple just has better talent/resources/focus than Qualcomm, just like Intel/nvidia v. AMD in the PC market's recent history.
Yes. But that was the case with the A10/A10X as well.
Note 8 came slightly before, didnt match it. Pixel 2 is coming out soon, probably wont match it. Itll be interesting to see how the S9 fares.
rokkerkory
Member
As iphone6 owner this gives me some good incentive to get an 8 but will wait since my phone works great
The X1 gpu was still faster than the A10xs gpu.
AstroNut325
Member
I think people aren't seeing the bigger picture. This opens the gateway to phones becoming true replacements for laptops.
Being able to do productive work with the device in your pocket is the future. Need to work on a spreadsheet? Or edit a video? Or look at a CAD model? Just connect to a wireless display and your set. That sounds amazing.
Being able to do productive work with the device in your pocket is the future. Need to work on a spreadsheet? Or edit a video? Or look at a CAD model? Just connect to a wireless display and your set. That sounds amazing.
Why not, Samsung wins just by looking alone.
I guess im thrown off that they didnt submit the benchmark. I thought most of these don't give you the option?
This is highly inaccurate unless you are only talking about geekbench.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Very few people on the planet can design good uarchs, and Apple has (or used to have) those. Keller needs to get back to amd and finish that k12.
CPU-wise it would be more powerful than the twins as well.
AstroNut325
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It's also funny that Apple use to flak for performance back in the iPhone 3/4/5 days. Now, it's no big deal!
ronaldthump
Member
Looking forward to my return to IOS. fuck android.
brianjones
Member
Loving my new 8
Been 5 years with the 5 .. felt it was time, sick of typing on that little ass keyboard
Been 5 years with the 5 .. felt it was time, sick of typing on that little ass keyboard
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
I've been using a ubuntu tablet for lightweight productivity for more than a year now -- all it takes is a portable kbd. Same tablet I webbrowse on on my morning commute.
All the benches I've seen put the A10x way ahead of the Tegra X1 on GPU tests. The A9X and X1 were more of a toss-up.
Yeah, Apple's like three gens ahead of Qualcomm/Samsung/Huawei on Javascript/web browser tests.
That's the thing with Apple. They're definitely working on this, but publicly they're gonna say "that's a stupid idea" until they have a finished product ready to surprise demo on stage, at which point it will be "magical".
They're the opposite of Microsoft and Google, who will announce it way before it's ready, and ship it with half the features promised.