I dont give a damn about his mother being dead and being used in a joke.Jesus.
It seems we can only have Gamergaters on the one hand, and snowflakes on the other? Is there no middle ground possible where it's okay to laugh about (or okay to not laugh but also to not get so easily offended) about things?
Kanye started this; commodifying his dead mother by literally making a game about his mother's death. Once such a game is out in the open; it's out there to get played, it's out there to get criticized, and it's out there to be made fun of. If you didn't want others to get entertained by your mother's death, don't make a fucking video game about it.
As for making it better by not making it a black fish? Is this really still an issue with Trey and Matt? Seriously? They've been going at human stupidity for 20 years now. Surely their agenda must seem at least a bit progressive by now?
I dont give a damn about his mother being dead and being used in a joke.
But I am not ok with that black face shit in 2017.
How's it black face? His mother was black and the fish was black? Should they make her white and then what?
How's it black face? His mother was black and the fish was black? Should they make her white and then what?
I'm asking how would you represent kanyes mom?
Not in a minstrel/Mammy way?How's it black face? His mother was black and the fish was black? Should they make her white and then what?
I'm asking how would you represent kanyes mom?
There is good news today.
And that good news is that Obsidian did not work on the South Park video game sequel.
How's it black face? His mother was black and the fish was black? Should they make her white and then what?
I'm asking how would you represent kanyes mom?
She should be green like Kanye, I don't have a PhD in being offended though.
How funny.
They brought back the super dated homophobic Kanye joke from 10+ years ago. Mixed it with a semen joke and then used it to make fun of Kanye's dead mom.
I think the older you get the more eye-rolling the "edgyness" of South Park becomes.
If a black person is offended by a black fish representing a black person; than honestly; I take a few of my statements back. Making the fish green would've brought the same point home and not be needlessly offensive. I give you that.
I think some of the problems in this use of imagery come from the discrepancy between green fish kanye and black fish mom. Either both should've been green, or both should've been black?
The term black face is used for white people donning black faces; a make believe of being and appropriating black cultures. I'm not sure if the term can be used if a black person is doing black face?
By some of the posts in here I'm honestly not surprised any more that the video games community (self called "gamers") have a racism problem. And people wonder why "gamers" have it hard on Tinder.
You should probably grab this kind of conclusions from the Pewdiepie threads, this is really mild in comparison to a guy yelling fucking n in a livestream watched by thousands of children and then being defended by youtuber cunts.
This is just southpark being southpark, as it's always been. People realizing the shit the show does, just now, it's really interesting.
If a black person is offended by a black fish representing a black person; than honestly; I take a few of my statements back. Making the fish green would've brought the same point home and not be needlessly offensive. I give you that.
I think some of the problems in this use of imagery come from the discrepancy between green fish kanye and black fish mom. Either both should've been green, or both should've been black?
The term black face is used for white people donning black faces; a make believe of being and appropriating black cultures. I'm not sure if the term can be used if a black person is doing black face?
I got to this conclusion quite a while ago but I'm always surprised that "gamers" want their hobby to be accepted in the main stream but always support homophobe, misogyny and racism.
I like South Park (at least older episodes) and while there was stuff that was questionable for me even back as a teen, I don't remember it this bad. Though I haven't seen much of the latest seasons but stuff like Cartman or Butters in racist Chinese costumes made sense to me in the context. But this is seems just mean spirited to Kanye West because he is an easy target that nerds on 9GAG and what other sites there are love to hate/make fun of.
I like South Park and look forward to the game. But Matt and Trey sometimes definitely cross the line and this is, to me, clearly one of those cases. So yes, I agree with the criticism here.
I don't think anyone is forgetting that dumb as fuck joke and they were more than welcome to joke about it, I'm sure even Kanye's best supporters see that game as weird.I think many people are forgetting the Kanye "Gay Fish" joke stems from episodes of the show, so they look for a way to continue it - but the joke about the Kanye game was immediate, with both Matt and Trey tearing into the idea at the Ubi press conference
If that is what your take is after all of these pages of conversation, then I feel sorry for you.Kanye defense force is the reason. Suddenly it's not ok because this is dEEp for Kanye and shit. I mean Steve Irwin was depicted with the ray's sting crossing his heart, ffs.
How many of you that are mad with this, are actually black people?
Probably day 1. Heres hoping they dont hold back on the humour to appease some people complaining online.
This is shitty, i agree. However Kanye has always been an easy target because he is fucking dumb and has said and done a lot of questionable shit, see Cosby, see Trump support, etc.
However you should rewatch southpark and see for yourself the kind of stuff they've done before. The F word episode, the trans episode with the dolphins, etc. I really like some episodes of the show ("You're getting old" it's such a beautiful piece of reflection in animation form) but their main appeal is generating fuzz, Trey and Matt love making people angry whatever the cost it takes. That's their way of doing comedy, and it's not new.
If a black person is offended by a black fish representing a black person; than honestly; I take a few of my statements back. Making the fish green would've brought the same point home and not be needlessly offensive. I give you that.
I think some of the problems in this use of imagery come from the discrepancy between green fish kanye and black fish mom. Either both should've been green, or both should've been black?
The term black face is used for white people donning black faces; a make believe of being and appropriating black cultures. I'm not sure if the term can be used if a black person is doing black face?
This is not about if the joke was funny or not - it was not - but that actually doesn't matter one bit, as there's no such thing as a funny racist joke.
This is about a racist and furthermore inadequate and offensive joke, and South Park has a well documented history of those, so I wonder why this one in particular makes people break with the show.
Everyone who doesnt wanna support a game for whatever reason is in their right as a consumer to do so.
But its just crazy to think that all it took is one trailer to cause a shift like this. A trailer they didnt have to make.
Yeah, good point.There is good news today.
And that good news is that Obsidian did not work on the South Park video game sequel.
come on come onomg i need this game right now.
There is good news today.
And that good news is that Obsidian did not work on the South Park video game sequel.
There is good news today.
And that good news is that Obsidian did not work on the South Park video game sequel.