PC gamers are pretty fickle and move on quickly OR they find one title and play it for 10+ years.
Games like TF2, Star Wars, etc. don't tend to have a very long shelf life on PC. If all you care about is multiplayer, you're probably still better off on consoles since it's easier for people to jump in unless it's a popular/competitive game on PC.
MvC has been out a few days and is already at a paltry 2k. If you're in Europe that's probably a fraction of that. DOA. SFV is the same, probably about 800 players in the whole of Europe at peak hours. Tekken is following pretty much the same sort of numbers as SFV did at the same time. Dead.Tekken 7 on PC has a ~4k peak in the past 24 hours
http://steamcharts.com/app/389730
So not dead and it's not like we have console numbers to compare it to. Though I imagine PS4 is higher no doubt.
Some others
MvC:I ~2.1k concurrent
http://steamcharts.com/app/493840
SFV ~1.5k concurrent but it has crossplay so doesn't really matter
http://steamcharts.com/app/310950
Isn't it kinda silly to argue numbers when the only ones we have are for PC? We have no idea concurrent numbers on console unless it's shown in game which isn't too common.
Turn crossplay off in SFV if you want to see how dead fighting games are on PC.
Fighting games are in their infancy on PC. The more we get the better they will do.MvC has been out a few days and is already at a paltry 2k. If you're in Europe that's probably a fraction of that. DOA. SFV is the same, probably about 800 players in the whole of Europe at peak hours. Tekken is following pretty much the same sort of numbers as SFV did at the same time. Dead.
Turn crossplay off in SFV if you want to see how dead fighting games are on PC.
There are a huge number of issues at play here, but allow me to give you an illustration:
Right now, this very moment, there are ~250 people playing Tribes 2 online, across roughly a dozen servers. This 16 year old game still has a community, and is still possible to play, thanks to fan patches and dedicated servers.
Every game that comes out, for those ~250 people, is competing with Tribes 2, the community built around it, and the years of history wrapped up with it.
There will still be people playing Tribes 2 when EA shuts down the servers for Battlefield 1.
Isn't it kinda silly to argue numbers when the only ones we have are for PC? We have no idea concurrent numbers on console unless it's shown in game which isn't too common or if we have a stats site for a game like battlefield.
The number of people buying dedicated graphics cards to play console ports is incredibly small. For a game to achieve console type numbers on PC, it needs to run on integrated graphics, mobile laptop GPUs, and the outdated cards that make up the great majority of systems out there.
Are there too many games coming out now for a game to maintain its playerbase, even with content updates, for more than a couple months? Do these three EA game play too much like "console" games for them to get anywhere near the same numbers on competing platforms? Have the majority of PC gamers moved on to F2P/games-as-a-service? Or mostly just player whatever genre is hot at the moment (moba, survival, etc.)?
The number of people buying dedicated graphics cards to play console ports is incredibly small. For a game to achieve console type numbers on PC, it needs to run on integrated graphics, mobile laptop GPUs, and the outdated cards that make up the great majority of systems out there.
Around 12 million AIB units sold per quarter isn't exactly "incredibly small number".
. People on this board were even telling others to get the PC version of Tekken 7 over the PS4 version! Stupid.
I think it's also worth noting that the decline in desktop PC is that prebuilt crap you find in retail stores...yeah that stuff has been on decline for a while and for good reason...it's mostly junk.
PC gamers were vocal about the consolization of originally PC shooters and lacking PC options last generation and were called a bunch of whiners and handwaved that they'd just buy the game anyway. Now look at the state of those games on PC compared to the modern juggernauts that are focused on PC like CSGO and PUBG.
Maybe listen to the audience once in a while.
Decline in PC shipments is wholly attributed to smartphones and tablets eating up this market. But you can imagine what PCs these were if they can be successfully substituted by an iPad.
On the other hand, server browsers make it always possible to find games, even in some incredibly old/obscure titles. I still have no issues finding games on Halo:CE MP, Unreal Tournament 04, CoD:MW2, CS1.6 and so on.
BF1 is just fine dude. There are bad maps like every single other FPS game out there. It's an amazing package. People are bored because they have literally been playing games like BF for over ten years every single year.
There is no shame in taking a break from pew pew games. There is more to life than simulated war.
Your idea that because a few of your friends don't play anymore is just your own situation. The numbers for the game are very high day to day.
On PC much less so.
Any recent TV or movie I've seen that features a tablet device has either been a Surface or similar style tablet PC. Even recent anime that showcases tablets has the Windows interface when PCs were always represented as OSX.
And why not buy them. One deal I saw today that stood out was a Lenovo 10" 1920x1200 screen, 4GB RAM, 64GB storage, and an Atom x7-Z8750 running Windows 10 Pro. For $200, why get a more limited device?
Phones, maybe. But tablets, yes a few years ago. But look at the current tablet market. Sure some people are buying them, but most current Android tablets are pretty bad. And people seem content with older iPads that do what they need.
Windows is actually stealthily eating Android and iPads lunch right now. Any recent TV or movie I've seen that features a tablet device has either been a Surface or similar style tablet PC. Even recent anime that showcases tablets has the Windows interface when PCs were always represented as OSX.
And why not buy them. One deal I saw today that stood out was a Lenovo 10" 1920x1200 screen, 4GB RAM, 64GB storage, and an Atom x7-Z8750 running Windows 10 Pro. For $200, why get a more limited device?
There are quite a few places in the world where tablets sales haven't even began to peak. In the US and EU sure, tablets are in decline as people generally prefer either "phablets" or still use their old tablets (I know I still use my Nexus 10 and iPad 4). But worldwide there are still quite a few markets where PCs are being pushed by touch devices.
Didn't COD still outsell PUBG and CSGO?PC gamers were vocal about the consolization of originally PC shooters and lacking PC options last generation and were called a bunch of whiners and handwaved that they'd just buy the game anyway. Now look at the state of those games on PC compared to the modern juggernauts that are focused on PC like CSGO and PUBG.
Maybe listen to the audience once in a while.
Didn't COD still outsell PUBG and CSGO?
Didn't COD still outsell PUBG and CSGO?
It's such a bummer to see how far Battlefield has fallen on PC. (Though as one of the seemingly people who haven't really fallen in love with the last few entries, I suppose it's not surprising.)
Oo I stand correctedNot on PC of course, but IIRC was Modern Warfare 2 the best selling one with 30M across all platforms. CSGO is closing in at 34M.
Pc players aren't into buying the same game every year.
I think running it through Battle.net is a stroke of genius. This game will be huge on PCBut those games aren't dead though?
And Destiny 2 isn't out yet of course, but the beta had significant interest from PC-players.
Is that why PUBG is so popular?
http://store.steampowered.com/stats/
It is super clear now... PUBG, Dota 2 and CS:GO ate up all the competitive players. See the dropoff from CS:GO to Team Fortress 2. This shows that PC players tend to cluster around a small group of titans.
Maybe we PC gamers have a stronger herd instinct than other platforms?
It is super clear now... PUBG, Dota 2 and CS:GO ate up all the competitive players.
PC gamers were vocal about the consolization of originally PC shooters and lacking PC options last generation and were called a bunch of whiners and handwaved that they'd just buy the game anyway. Now look at the state of those games on PC compared to the modern juggernauts that are focused on PC like CSGO and PUBG.
Maybe listen to the audience once in a while.
What games are we talking about? Because I dont know that they particularly care which platform they sell on as long as the games continue to sell somewhere.
Yeah Steam or otherwise, it's basically a small group of juggernauts taking the lion's share of PC players. This suggests we might cluster harder than console players.Considering a lot of huge competitive titles aren't on Steam, like World of Tanks, LoL, Overwatch or Hearthstone I'm not sure it's wise to make that judgement.
Yeah, I can see that. But I do wonder if that's because we have a much broader range of game genres to play, with MOBAs and strategy games like Civ also having huge player bases and no real presence on console. So I think shooters are just much more popular on console, while PC players gravitate to a wider range of games, leading to less players in the shooter genre hence consolidation towards a few specific games.Yeah Steam or otherwise, it's basically a small group of juggernauts taking the lion's share of PC players. This suggests we might cluster harder than console players.
Thankfully Tekken 7 has a pretty active userbase so it worked out pretty well
Is that why PUBG is so popular?