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Why is PC gaming still considered difficult with too much tinkering?
- Thread starter Fredrik
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as someone who just recently started playing games on PC the most annoying thing I find is when a game has a performance issue I find it hard to tell if its my hardware or if its a game issue. although the same issues happen on consoles because you have options in the graphics settings as well as the option to upgrade hardware parts on PC. it makes you ask questions that are not (at least for me) easy to answer.
I also find I have to go into the graphics setting before the first play of any game as at least half the games I have played thinks my 1080p tv is only 720p.
I also find I have to go into the graphics setting before the first play of any game as at least half the games I have played thinks my 1080p tv is only 720p.
Considering how easy it is to go and buy an off-the-shelf laptop/desktop, fire up your digital storefront of choice and get playing; yeah the stereotype is fairly bullshit. Sure, older games can take some work. But having to put a bit of work into getting a classic 90s game working on your current rig seems like a fair price for basically infinite BC. It's better than being at the mercy of platform/content owners for a re-release.
To be fair, I'm one of those strange people who uses and games in Linux; and even that is getting incredibly easy these days. If you can handle installing your own OS and games on a Windows PC, you could handle setting up some flavour of Ubuntu, installing Steam and getting some decent AAA games underway. Seriously, give it a go. Mint is great for beginners, Elementary is nifty if you're a fan of the Mac interface and Xubuntu is a treat for breathing new life into dated hardware. It can be very empowering and liberating. If you enjoy it, try donating a few bucks or some time to a project. Free and Open Source Software is super important, guys.
/rant
To be fair, I'm one of those strange people who uses and games in Linux; and even that is getting incredibly easy these days. If you can handle installing your own OS and games on a Windows PC, you could handle setting up some flavour of Ubuntu, installing Steam and getting some decent AAA games underway. Seriously, give it a go. Mint is great for beginners, Elementary is nifty if you're a fan of the Mac interface and Xubuntu is a treat for breathing new life into dated hardware. It can be very empowering and liberating. If you enjoy it, try donating a few bucks or some time to a project. Free and Open Source Software is super important, guys.
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That's not out of date, people still does it for 3DS and Vita and probably for Switch (haven't seen it yet, but I expect it)
Though blowing isn't a solution to the issue, it's the CAUSE of the issue...
So, you're misunderstanding what I meant: It's not that 60FPS over 30FPS isn't better; it's that saying that consoles run games 'sub-optimally' is misleading. It might be true for certain games like Oblivion that were developed for PC's; on the other hand other games are made for consoles and then ported over to PC. PC's are a lot more scalable, so good developers will allow you play at higher frame-rates or visual quality. That's great! But it doesn't mean the original system was running the game 'poorly'.
For example, KHII:HD bumped the game up from 30FPS to 60FPS. Are we going to say the PS2 ran "KHII suboptimally?" because of that? (Heck, on release KH:II HD had issues because some game logic was tied to the framerate.)
What would be better would be to say that PC can play enhanced versions of a game. Well, depending on the game. The Elder Scrolls games obviously do run as well on the PS3/360, so there you go.
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On a side note: I'd like to see you play DMC4 with a Mouse and Keyboard. M&B are only good for certain genre's. It's terrible for most platformers and action games.
Huge Succeeded
Banned
unlike consoles, PC supports many different control standards (and permutations of them). I don't have to compromise and use a control method that isn't 'good' for the genre of game I'm playing; I can just switch.
Unaha-Closp
Member
As someone who came late to PC Gaming it does have more hurdles to playing a game than consoles. You can argue until you are blue in the face but it's a fact. There are myriad more things that can go slightly off with gaming on a PC. You can play games at their best on a PC, mostly, and more games too but there is a much much higher chance of you having to do extra work before you get to actually play the thing. Added complexity = added hassle. It's a fact. Some people love that shit though and good for them. Normally the biggest worry I have when I play on console is - does my controller have power or do I need to plug it in? Oversimplification sure but you get the picture. Again you can play games at their best on PC and when it works flawlessly it's a dream but it does not work flawlessly very often in my experience anyway.
With DOOM, that's basically like trying to run a Super NES ROM, or at best a Virtual Console game. The way the developers meant for it to be played 20+ years ago is very different from how people play games today. Anything you do to get it running at modern resolutions with better graphics is like trying to build an HD remaster yourself, or tinkering with console emulator features.
To be honest when playing old games now, I try to play them pretty close to how they were originally played. I might add mouse look but I'll play it in a small window somewhere near its original resolution.
This is it right here. People tune out as soon as there's a task they need to figure out. Everyone underestimates how strong that is at discouraging people from bothering.
PC can still be a bit of a bother. Getting voice chat set up, making sure drivers are okay and then there is some wonky problem that will show up because you have some non-gaming app that is causing some problem. Consoles are single purpose and closed gardens and PC are multi and open, by that simple fact it opens the world up to whole bunch of potential conflicts that the console will never see.
For example my orb weaver and wacom tablet have issues with each other. In fact when I look at all the usb cables going into this box its amazing the thing works at all sometimes.
For example my orb weaver and wacom tablet have issues with each other. In fact when I look at all the usb cables going into this box its amazing the thing works at all sometimes.
Eclectic Sk3ptic
Member
When you turn off your monitor, does it go on standby or does it shut off completely? If the latter, Windows would switch automatically to the TV once it no longer detects the monitor. It would switch back and forth automatically (along with the audio) depending on whether the monitor is powered. If both your displays go on standby, however, Windows will always detect them as connected, and you would have to use the Windows key + P shortcut to change display modes between the two on the fly.
What you're suggesting would be great, but it would require the TV to completely disable that one HDMI input when it's not in use. Unfortunately, (to the best of my knowledge) there's no perfectly convenient/fully automatic way to accomplish what you're trying to do.
Precisely. I couldn't agree more.
Dictator93
Member
Source. Port. Running it through DOS-Box does not make much of any sense. Even the source ports which try to emulate the DOS behaviour of Doom on release will be better.
Doom has the best source ports out there.
Harken Raiser
Banned
Would it blow your mind if you found out that you can use console gamepads on PC?
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
This post lol. Missing the point so badly.
It's easy for you, but for a lot of people, it's a bother. I play on both consoles and PC (primarily console), and yes, PC gaming is always more of a bother. Seems like nothing ever works right away. Recently, I played (on my boyfriend's PC, mine is too out of date) Dishonored 2, which I hadn't touched in a few months, and since I play with a controller, I used the DS4, and for some reason it wouldn't work even though I know it worked a few months ago. Had to mess around with searching for controller configs and tweaking it which was a pain in the ass. Oh, and the game frequently just crashed to desktop without so much as an error message -- I'd do something like, open the journal menu and it'd just immediately close the game without warning. One time, it did it twice in the same evening, then on the third try it worked fine, but I can see why someone would say "fuck this" and do something else.
It's easy to say "yeah you can do all of that on a PC and it's easy lol", but the thing is, PC gaming is great... when it works fine. If it doesn't, if you get graphical glitches when you shouldn't, if your controller doesn't work when it should, if the game crashes constantly, if the game stutters when it shouldn't, if you get audio glitches, etc. etc. then you need to hunt down config tweaks, fixes, driver updates, and just Google shit for a while and that's frustrating.
Just recently I tried to play Trails in the Sky the 3rd. Start playing and the camera just spins around constantly without any input. Something wrong with the controller again, but what? Who the fuck knows. I haven't even tried again because I decided to go play something else on the PS4 instead. I'll go back to it eventually, but it's annoying.
Never had a PC game, even non-demanding one, that didn't require me to do at least some amount of work. Sometimes it's minimal but it's still there. And sometimes it's just endless frustration. This shit does not happen with console gaming unless there's a major problem with the game itself.
Edit: as for hackers, I don't play online a lot, only in Souls games, and the only hackers I've seen were on PC. So, yeah, not that mythical really.
Jangowuzhere
Banned
Really not a fan of this whole "PC gaming is so easy!" thing that continues to pop up over the years.
Yes, it is much easier to get into these days, but it is not on the same level of simplicity and user friendliness like consoles, it's not even close. For a lot of games (especially bad ports) the user is required to put in some amount of time tinkering and troubleshooting various problems. Some of these can be minor and merely inconvenient, but some could totally prevent you from playing a game entirely. I have spent hours upon hours trying to get Metal Gear Rising to work properly, but it was one of the rare cases where I never found a solution.
Software can be a headache, but for me, the biggest pain of PC gaming is having to actually open up the computer itself. I absolutely DESPISE having to do this. It's not super difficult or anything, but it is time consuming. I also get very paranoid about doing something wrong and breaking something. I need to basically build a completely new PC in the near future if I want to upgrade my CPU. Not looking forward to doing that at all.
Yes, it is much easier to get into these days, but it is not on the same level of simplicity and user friendliness like consoles, it's not even close. For a lot of games (especially bad ports) the user is required to put in some amount of time tinkering and troubleshooting various problems. Some of these can be minor and merely inconvenient, but some could totally prevent you from playing a game entirely. I have spent hours upon hours trying to get Metal Gear Rising to work properly, but it was one of the rare cases where I never found a solution.
Software can be a headache, but for me, the biggest pain of PC gaming is having to actually open up the computer itself. I absolutely DESPISE having to do this. It's not super difficult or anything, but it is time consuming. I also get very paranoid about doing something wrong and breaking something. I need to basically build a completely new PC in the near future if I want to upgrade my CPU. Not looking forward to doing that at all.
Yes, I do think a game that has been designed to run at 30FPS is a game that has been designed to run sub-optimally, or to be more precise, at a sub-standard level.
And yes, I can't run every game with max settings at 60FPS, but that doesn't matter because generally:
1. I will be able to eventually.
2. I can choose to downgrade visuals to prioritize acceptable performance.
Neither of which is true for the vast majority of console games.
Think of it like this: A console is just an under-powered PC, where all the in-game graphics settings have been set by the publisher. Your experience is just as "sub-optimal" as someone with a budget PC, you just have less say in the quality/performance prioritization.
Hephaestus
Member
Its funny that I came across this thread. I have been a PC gamer for years with a console every now and again.
My experience with hooking up my new 4K tv to my ps4pro has been more annoying then any problem I have come across on a PC in years.
Hooking up the HDMI port, of you can only hook it to certain ones, 5 for lower input lag but no HDR. 1 to 4 have HDR but 1 is ARC and 3 only does 2k. wait which one has sub-sampling?
Hooking up ARC to my receiver was a nightmare, handshaking only sometimes works, ok back to optical cables. wait why is it only receiving stereo?
Ok turn on the tv...OH GOD MY EYES ARE BLISTERING, ok now look up settings from rtings and proceed to adjust 150 setting, and dont forget to turn on game mode or the lag will be so bad you can press B then go make a sandwich before it responds.
In general yes consoles are plug and play but as time goes it almost seems like PC are becoming easier while setting up your TV is becoming more and more convoluted.
My experience with hooking up my new 4K tv to my ps4pro has been more annoying then any problem I have come across on a PC in years.
Hooking up the HDMI port, of you can only hook it to certain ones, 5 for lower input lag but no HDR. 1 to 4 have HDR but 1 is ARC and 3 only does 2k. wait which one has sub-sampling?
Hooking up ARC to my receiver was a nightmare, handshaking only sometimes works, ok back to optical cables. wait why is it only receiving stereo?
Ok turn on the tv...OH GOD MY EYES ARE BLISTERING, ok now look up settings from rtings and proceed to adjust 150 setting, and dont forget to turn on game mode or the lag will be so bad you can press B then go make a sandwich before it responds.
In general yes consoles are plug and play but as time goes it almost seems like PC are becoming easier while setting up your TV is becoming more and more convoluted.
My problem with PC gaming is that even if I can buy a gaming laptop that has everything built in, and I check which games has requirement specs that match my computer, some times I still have compatibility issues, plus lots of times I still have some performance issues which I really don't from were they came from, and had to fix some things from my OS.
Meanwhile, with a console you hardly had to bother of doing OS reparations, you just go there and play, so even though using a pc for gaming doesn't require an engineer degree to play, it still has some problems that don't trigger me on consoles
Meanwhile, with a console you hardly had to bother of doing OS reparations, you just go there and play, so even though using a pc for gaming doesn't require an engineer degree to play, it still has some problems that don't trigger me on consoles
J_ToSaveTheDay
Member
I don't disagree with you that this can get confusing (and is more confusing than it's ever been in history up to this point), but can you really make the argument that it's more confusing and less convenient than shopping for and assembling a PC with the intent to game on it, and then further maintaining that PC over time?
I agree with you calling out that console section of the post as perhaps being a bit oversimplified, and your response has made me realize that to an extent, too... But my ultimate point is that it's still miles more convenient than shopping for a PC to game on, and I feel like that point isn't addressed by your response.
I'm not saying this to get in your face, but I'd love to be proved wrong. PC gaming is great, but I get why almost anyone that doesn't possess a decent amount of knowledge about how PC gaming works would opt for a console over a PC, or in some cases, why someone who's been in the PC game realm might find moments of comfort in the console realm for getting to let go of some of the complexities of PC gaming.
ss_lemonade
Member
About laptops, don't forget about problems like this, which isn't even documented in any laptop review whatsoever that's affected by it:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...issues-on-gtx-860m-870m-960m-965m-970m-980m-/
I do hope that new laptops are free of this problem by now
TheChewyWaffles
Member
I just want to post and bitch about not being able to sign into my Ultimate edition of Forza Horizon 3 on PC due to some error related to not being able to play without being signed into a profile. I've wasted 45 minutes trying to resolve this when what I really want to do is just game. I'm pissed.
TheExecutive
Member
Its simply due to the issues that can present themselves and the lack of knowledge how to fix it. Pretty simple really. A closed format provides hassle free gaming while a computer can leave you wide open to driver issues, compatability, and no guarantee a game will work. without the knowledge it can be a real nightmare for people.
Tinkering isn't gaming, though. Gaming is about playing games.
Playing a console. Step 1: plug it in and connect to your TV.
Step 2: insert disc. Install update.
Step 3: play
PC owners need to understand the appeal of that convenience. I don't want to piss around with drivers and graphics cards and keyboards and installs and upgrades. I mean, why even bother anyway? My next Playstation will match what your PC does now, so I can wait. The PS4 pisses all over PCs from 10 years ago. Consoles are progressing regardless.
The other thing I don't get about PC gaming? You cry on about insane specs and graphics and then you play on tiny monitors. I play on a giant OLED TV and I know what I prefer.
Step 2: insert disc. Install update.
Step 3: play
PC owners need to understand the appeal of that convenience. I don't want to piss around with drivers and graphics cards and keyboards and installs and upgrades. I mean, why even bother anyway? My next Playstation will match what your PC does now, so I can wait. The PS4 pisses all over PCs from 10 years ago. Consoles are progressing regardless.
The other thing I don't get about PC gaming? You cry on about insane specs and graphics and then you play on tiny monitors. I play on a giant OLED TV and I know what I prefer.
My problem with pc gaming is when i try to build my own pc i have a certain budget which i don't want to go over, but as I'm buying the parts i keep on telling myself i can get a better part for just a little bit more. When I'm done choosing my pc parts and ready to pay i find that I'm way higher than the budget which i had in mind, so i tell myself i better wait till next paycheck, but by next paycheck i forget about the idea of getting a gaming pc and tell myself i barely have enough time to play on consoles, and i still have a huge backlog of games to beat (_)/
I can see how this may be an issue, but it also presents its benefits. If there's a certain aspect of a game that's really bothering you such as frame rate, resolution, FOV, button mapping, or even some sort of tedious mechanic that can be addressed through command lines or mods, you can actually fix it. On a console, you either put up with it or set the game aside.
Most issues are a couple of Google searches away and require little more than following the ground that has been tread by others seeking answers to the same issues. Nobody starts out building a PC and playing on PC knowing everything about it and with knowledge about how to address each and every possible snag that might pop up. It's a matter of learning, sometimes through trial and error. This flexibility offers a great deal of agency to the user though.
If taking the time to read up on stuff and troubleshoot is problematic--either because you just have no interest in doing so or because you're pressed for time--I can completely understand why someone would prefer consoles over PC. I personally value the flexibility offered by PC games far more than the extra time investment it requires every now and then. However, I don't think that consoles are entirely problem-free, user-friendly experiences either. In fact, the rigidity of the platforms and inability to address stuff I feel is distracting to the experience of playing games is what drove me to get into PC in the first place. It of course helps that I actually like the process of tinkering with stuff, min-maxing performance versus IQ, etc.
It's a subjective thing and it'll always be, even if PC is as user-friendly as it's ever been.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
"Hey, this post has a logical fallacy reguarding PC being as plug & play as consoles right now instead of a trend of convergence over the last two decades that has never been made much less rebuttaled! hurf durf"
That too, but two-bit trolling is what those people are here for, not ejumacatin'.
That too, but two-bit trolling is what those people are here for, not ejumacatin'.
The Greek Freak
Member
Fucking with setting for even 5 min is enough to drive me insane. Its why despite having a nice pc i only play pc exclusives and no setting changes needed indies.
ss_lemonade
Member
Many PC gamers use a TV too, though I do admit that it can become quite a headache depending on how your setup is (mixing in a receiver, 4k and HDR may or may not work unfortunately).
As for the next playstation matching today's PC, I'm not sure. I mean, I've had a 780 before I got my PS4 and the 780 still runs games today much better than what my PS4 could manage (obviously talking about multiplatform games)
*shrug*
Last time I started delving into PC gaming I ran into a number of separate issues with different games. There was an incompatibility issue with my GPU and The Witcher 2. Total War: Shogun 2's font was unreadable and I had to find a mod to increase the font size. I tried to play Crawl, but there were problems getting multiple controllers to connect (one would bump the other out). There were tons of little, niggly problems that were solvable, but a pain in my ass.
I don't have a problem with the platform, but my own personal experiences have always been somewhat obnoxious.
Live and let live and all that, but consoles have always just worked for me.
Last time I started delving into PC gaming I ran into a number of separate issues with different games. There was an incompatibility issue with my GPU and The Witcher 2. Total War: Shogun 2's font was unreadable and I had to find a mod to increase the font size. I tried to play Crawl, but there were problems getting multiple controllers to connect (one would bump the other out). There were tons of little, niggly problems that were solvable, but a pain in my ass.
I don't have a problem with the platform, but my own personal experiences have always been somewhat obnoxious.
Live and let live and all that, but consoles have always just worked for me.
Lister
Banned
So much stupid in one post. Amazing.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
I bought a gaming PC for the first time in January, its worked pretty well so far. I bought a pre-made PC because i was afraid to mess it up so i still havent built a PC.
The only game i've really had issue with is downwell, had to download a couple of things to get it to stop crashing but that was like a 10 minute fix.
I only play games on steam to keep it as simple as possible, i know nothing about PCs, if a mod isnt on the steam workout or whatever i dont even know how to download them.
The only game i've really had issue with is downwell, had to download a couple of things to get it to stop crashing but that was like a 10 minute fix.
I only play games on steam to keep it as simple as possible, i know nothing about PCs, if a mod isnt on the steam workout or whatever i dont even know how to download them.
donutzsick
Member
Hate updating my drivers and finding out what is causing a problem. Luckily I know my pc stuff so I can figure it out but on console I never worry about troubleshooting garbage.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
Member
The epitome of ignorance has been found!
lmao this post is something else
brunomartynhak
Member
Some games don't work straight ahead.
First launch crash is pretty common for me.
Crashing after first change in resolution as well.
First launch crash is pretty common for me.
Crashing after first change in resolution as well.
And what else on your PC have you had to change or upgrade in that time?
And yes you raise a good point about HDR which still doesnt run on PC does it?
Regardless I'll upgrade my console every 4-5 years anyway so I'll always see a big jump.
I'm thinking about building a first gaming PC soon, just a little worried that I wouldn't play it enough (or I'd play it too much), and I'd have to set it up with a TV because crouching over a desk at a monitor is not my style.
Can't really justify the cost right now either when my PS4 serves me pretty well (and I don't even play that enough.)
Can't really justify the cost right now either when my PS4 serves me pretty well (and I don't even play that enough.)
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
You know all versions of DMC4 support controllers on PC right?
There's also this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPxpVy7Ae3c
ss_lemonade
Member
Nothing. I had a 3570k and a 780 4 years ago, before I got a PS4, and still had the same setup until 2 weeks ago, when I got a new GPU.
As for HDR, it's a bit of a mess and I think half of the problem has got to do with Windows 10. The other half is my receiver not playing well with my PC when using one of it's HDMI inputs, which is odd since all it's HDMI inputs are hdcp 2.2 4k HDR compatible.
Cramoss
Member
Based on your thoughts, I'd stay on consoles and use some of that money for games
hououinkyouma00
Member
I play on both but mostly on consoles. Both sides have their benefits. Theres no denying that both sides have their downfalls though.
On the PC side of things you have better resolution and frame rate and the ability to choose between the two depending on preference. You also have the ability to mess with settings and customize it quite a bit in most games, as well as more options in controls. You also dont need to pay for online play.
BUT at the same time you have more possibilities for things to go wrong due to that ability. It took a months to get FH3 to run well, and I still cant play on anything above 1440p due to weird graphical glitches. On numerous occasions I can barely get games to run at all without crashes. Now I know my way around computers and can almost always get them running, but not every will be able to tinker with stuff and edit files to fix issues.
On the console side of things while you dont have the customization of the pc side things just run generally. You know you buy a game and it will run, while it may not run well you can leave play it. You (almost always) dont have to worry about being at a disadvantage for playing with a controller.
BUT also sometimes things just run badly, and thats going to affect certain people more then others. For me personally the only things I HAVE to have 60fps for are FPS, fighters, and most racing games (Horizon being an example of how 30fps can work really well) but for others they demand 60 no matter what. And while you do have to pay for online you also generally play on a platform that keeps players for longer and is generally the lead platform nowadays.
I have a capable PC that can play most of my library at 2160/30 or 1440/1620p/60 but I still prefer to play on my PS4 Pro. I like playing on my HDR television and just being able to buy games and play. Im probably buying DDDA on PS4 even though I own it on PC just because I prefer consoles.
Ill be moving to HK or Kyoto/Tokyo next year and I will be selling off my gaming pc for a lower end gaming laptop if I keep a PC at all. And most likely I will be selling my PS4 Pro and XBO S to buy a normal slim once I get there as I sure as hell arent going to be taking my 50 4K HDR tv overseas. Its nce to have power but its not necessary for me personally.
The minimalist in me likes the idea of a single console, my Vita, and maybe a laptop anyway.
On the PC side of things you have better resolution and frame rate and the ability to choose between the two depending on preference. You also have the ability to mess with settings and customize it quite a bit in most games, as well as more options in controls. You also dont need to pay for online play.
BUT at the same time you have more possibilities for things to go wrong due to that ability. It took a months to get FH3 to run well, and I still cant play on anything above 1440p due to weird graphical glitches. On numerous occasions I can barely get games to run at all without crashes. Now I know my way around computers and can almost always get them running, but not every will be able to tinker with stuff and edit files to fix issues.
On the console side of things while you dont have the customization of the pc side things just run generally. You know you buy a game and it will run, while it may not run well you can leave play it. You (almost always) dont have to worry about being at a disadvantage for playing with a controller.
BUT also sometimes things just run badly, and thats going to affect certain people more then others. For me personally the only things I HAVE to have 60fps for are FPS, fighters, and most racing games (Horizon being an example of how 30fps can work really well) but for others they demand 60 no matter what. And while you do have to pay for online you also generally play on a platform that keeps players for longer and is generally the lead platform nowadays.
I have a capable PC that can play most of my library at 2160/30 or 1440/1620p/60 but I still prefer to play on my PS4 Pro. I like playing on my HDR television and just being able to buy games and play. Im probably buying DDDA on PS4 even though I own it on PC just because I prefer consoles.
Ill be moving to HK or Kyoto/Tokyo next year and I will be selling off my gaming pc for a lower end gaming laptop if I keep a PC at all. And most likely I will be selling my PS4 Pro and XBO S to buy a normal slim once I get there as I sure as hell arent going to be taking my 50 4K HDR tv overseas. Its nce to have power but its not necessary for me personally.
The minimalist in me likes the idea of a single console, my Vita, and maybe a laptop anyway.
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
The tinkering is the best part, that and playing The Evil Within 2 at 60fps.
Enigmatic Rainbow
Member
I did these steps last week, and I ended up with a corrupted hard drive on my PS4 Pro.
Polygonal_Sprite
Member
PC gaming is fantastic if you care enough about a darker shadow here, a more detailed texture there and the obvious jump to 60fps for the multiplatform games that aren't 60fps on console.
Personally I just can't be bothered. Playing the big AAA multiplats on a PC always felt like I was playing emulated versions of console games. I guess that's what happens when you grew up with consoles and have spent the better part of 35 years playing on them. I imagine PC's are great if you like the exclusives, especially genres like RTS and MMO's.
I did dabble in PC gaming last year but it just wasn't for me. If I wanted to sit at a desk and dick around with a mouse and keyboard I would work in an office.
Personally I just can't be bothered. Playing the big AAA multiplats on a PC always felt like I was playing emulated versions of console games. I guess that's what happens when you grew up with consoles and have spent the better part of 35 years playing on them. I imagine PC's are great if you like the exclusives, especially genres like RTS and MMO's.
I did dabble in PC gaming last year but it just wasn't for me. If I wanted to sit at a desk and dick around with a mouse and keyboard I would work in an office.
hououinkyouma00
Member
I would just stick to your PS4. If you dont have enough time to play on PS4 you definitely wont have enough time splitting between pc and PS4. Ive been there, my current PC is my 4th gaming PC and Ive been through the I just spent $800 on a pc that I never play.
Honestly right now I only play PUBG on my pc. I could literally play on a G4560/1050ti. Speaking of which if you really want to build a pc thats only for games budget builds can be great for times like that. A G4560 and a 1050ti can play new games well, I just built a budget build for my friend who wanted to play League and PUBG with me and a couple friends that came out to under $500 including monitor. The funny/sad part is his settings for PUBG are almost the same as mine but thats more on the optimization of the game then our builds.
At least that way you havent ruined your savings for something you never use.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WtJBkT
Thats $540 however right now G4560 for some reason is $100 instead of the actual retail of like $60, and 1050tis are now $140 versus I was able to grab my friend one for $110 so besides that its the same as when I wbuilt him one for $475. Throw in a cheap M/KB for the time being and you are set.
Despite all that I still think you should stick to PS4 based on what youve said.
SmokedMeat
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I'd say that generally the case.
Last night I started tinkering with the classic fps Blood. The game runs on my setup without issue, but I want to run the Source port, so that involves a little work. Of course none of this is possible on a console.