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Vice: I love "Rick & Morty" and I hate its fans

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Saving this, going to be used so much.
 

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
Let's hope all this doesn't discourage Dan Harmon. He's the type to take things to heart.

I think Harmon detests parts of the fanbase as much as everyone else. You have episodes blatantly and directly making fun of the hardcore fans.
 
It's a smart show but you'd have to be a moron to think "getting it" makes you better than anybody else.

I really hate this aspect of fandom. Also, the misogyny. Rick's a great character but he's not a role model. Anyone who acts like him in real life (like the backwards hat dude in the article) deserves to get his ass beat.
 

Poppy

Member
Where do people keep running into these toxic fans? I love the show and the only interactions I've been a apart of, or encountered, are recommending the show or discussing episodes.

A similar thing happened with Undertale. Everyone says the fandom was awful, but all I saw were a bunch of fun remixes of the music. Guess I'm good at avoiding those neighborhoods.

pretty sure its all on tumblr and only spills into youtube because youtube comments are part of the horrible negaverse in which strange angry teenagers exist

i honestly dont see much of this behavior outside youtube comments and i spend all my time on the internet, but then maybe it also exists on twitter which i barely ever use. i dunno, sometimes it makes me feel kinda sheltered in an internet sense. i dont even really see all the bad rick and morty fans despite knowing they are out there
 
To be fair, I’m a hypocrite since Steven Universe is one of my all-time favorite cartoons and there’s fans of that on tumblr that are bat-shit insane

You aren't kidding. The OT here and the main subreddit are much easier to deal with. But the Tumblr fanbase can be as varied from people who draw fun fan art to those who harass teenage girls into suicide attempts for drawing a character too thin.

Rick & Morty is hilarious, and the episodes can have some real emotion and depth tied to them. But pulling some grand philosophical ideas from it other than "nihilism is cool, i guess?" seems insane to me. Plus, Rick is supposed to be this idol, but he's an alcoholic, emotionally broken mess who's tried to kill himself and whose answer for any complicated emotional conflict is to ignore it, act above it, or run away.

For god's sake, the entire reason he turned himself into a pickle is because he didn't want to attend a much-needed family therapy session. Rick's supposed nihilism is just a defense mechanism so he doesn't have to deal with shit.
 
I got into the show late, watched season 1 & 2 alone in my own bubble. And absolutely loved it. While I have really enjoyed watching season 3 live with everyone else. It does suck to see the attitude some of the fans have. But every show has shitty fans, best to just ignore them I guess. And maybe not write 5 articles a day giving them attention.
 

Lunar15

Member
It's almost as if there's a section of people who enjoy any kind of fantasy entertainment that are absolute assholes with no ability to emphasize with others due to their retreat into said fantasy over the years.
 

jstripes

Banned
Well, hang on, the show isn't not not-smart. There's some legitimate philosophical conversations going on. But none of it is genius level required reading level discourse.

The show does a pretty good job of exploring the pitfalls of nihilism while showing enlightened absurdism as a more tenable worldview, but it's not freakin Wittgenstein or anything,
It's smarter than most shows in that it directly addresses issues most similar shows tend to ignore, and it does it in creative ways, but yes, you'd have to be pretty full of yourself to subscribe to the "it's for smart people" line. It's no smarter than Adventure Time or Bob's Burgers, really.

I think Harmon detests parts of the fanbase as much as everyone else. You have episodes blatantly and directly making fun of the hardcore fans.

Oh, I know Harmon detests parts of the fanbase, but if you follow him on Twitter you'll see that he gets down on himself quite easily.
 

Tregard

Soothsayer
Whilst I don't care much for the term itself, a thought emerged recently in a conversation with friends which I've been curious about: Is Rick a "Mary Sue"?
 

Owari

Member
Those two episodes sucked, but anyone who would attack someone online sucks way more. Makes me ashamed that I enjoy this show.
 

Murkas

Member
These can't really all be in the game... right?

Completed LiS when it was free on PS+ a few months ago.

They're all in the game.


Watched a few episodes of R&M and didn't see the big deal. It's just the next thing the internet goes ham for as per.
 

Sami+

Member
Hella yeah they are

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I don't even like LiS that much

I didn't like the demo much when I played it years ago but always thought of giving it another try since people say it's good but... nah, I think I'll pass. 😅
 

Plum

Member
Whilst I don't care much for the term itself, a thought emerged recently in a conversation with friends which I've been curious about: Is Rick a "Mary Sue"?

Nah because he feels sad sometimes. He feels sad with sad indie music in the background! How can a character be a 'Mary Sue' if that happens?

I'm not a fan of R&M's 'cliffhangerization' of depression where Rick's personality really doesn't have many consequences in the grand scheme of things. I like the show, though, just find that aspect of it highly under-written.
 
My first exposure to Rick and Morty was when some time ago I was looking up Oscar song performances. One of the most memorable for me was always Elliott Smith for Miss Misery and how standing on stage in his stark white suit and an acoustic guitar he just seemed... so out of place especially compared to the bombastic Celine Dion juggernaut that year. When I looked up the video all the comments were some variant of "TINY RICK!!!" and I had no idea what the hell people were talking about until I googled it. I found it super obnoxious.

A year or two later, I caught up with Rick and Morty. It's a clever show that I enjoy (though I think Community was stronger with its references and allusions but get that this isn't all Harmon) but it's crazy how out of proportion its fanbase blows some of its references and jokes.
 

CHC

Member
It's actually the reason I waited so long to check the show out. I love it but I rarely talk about it, possibly because of subconsciously not wanting to identify with its fans.
 

robotrock

Banned
My first exposure to Rick and Morty was when some time ago I was looking up Oscar song performances. One of the most memorable for me was always Elliott Smith for Miss Misery and how standing on stage in his stark white suit and an acoustic guitar he just seemed... so out of place especially compared to the bombastic Celine Dion juggernaut that year. When I looked up the video all the comments were some variant of "TINY RICK!!!" and I had no idea what the hell people were talking about until I googled it. I found it super obnoxious.

A year or two later, I caught up with Rick and Morty. It's a clever show that I enjoy (though I think Community was stronger with its references and allusions but get that this isn't all Harmon) but it's crazy how out of proportion its fanbase blows some of its references and jokes.

oh my fucking god, rick and morty fans are elliott smith fans now?

edit: apologies for double post, I was taken aback
 

Gorillaz

Member
The breaking bad fandom the last year was so shit it was actually unbelievable. The complete mental gymnastics of walt being a "genius mastermind" and the skylar hate for no reason was an actual headache to hear and read.


all big fandom are like this in some way tho
 
The big list of awful fanbases:

SuperWhoLock fans
Bronies
R&M fans
J.Cole fans
Walking Dead fans
Wrestling fans (especially)
Patriots fans
Xxxtentacion fans
LoL players
Zack Snyder fans
South Park fans
Those GoT fans that make podcasts all about what the fuck Jon Snow or whoever the fuck ate for breakfast that one time in season 20, episode 4
Prequels fans
PewDiePie fans

With Trump fans obviously getting the gold medal

They’re included as well! Everyone’s on the list!

Ah, a Jericho fan
 
oh my fucking god, rick and morty fans are elliott smith fans now?

edit: apologies for double post, I was taken aback

That was the ep where Rick turns himself into a teenager (the Tiny Rick) and then to get him to want to transfer back to his old self, Summer makes him listen to Between the Bars and he gets super emotional.

I'd wager that the overlapping Venn diagram of Elliott Smith fans and R&M fans prior to that episode wasn't super huge.


Yeah that.
 
If we were to summon the dickhead version of Exodia what are the 5 pieces we need?

1)R&M
2)Vegan
3)Athiest
4)Crossfitter
5) Electric car owner (Hybrids are for both sides fence sitters on the environment)

Pretty sure that ^ person would view himself as a walking HERO
 

jstripes

Banned
My first exposure to Rick and Morty was when some time ago I was looking up Oscar song performances. One of the most memorable for me was always Elliott Smith for Miss Misery and how standing on stage in his stark white suit and an acoustic guitar he just seemed... so out of place especially compared to the bombastic Celine Dion juggernaut that year. When I looked up the video all the comments were some variant of "TINY RICK!!!" and I had no idea what the hell people were talking about until I googled it. I found it super obnoxious.

A year or two later, I caught up with Rick and Morty. It's a clever show that I enjoy (though I think Community was stronger with its references and allusions but get that this isn't all Harmon) but it's crazy how out of proportion its fanbase blows some of its references and jokes.

Typical terrible geek culture thing. Endless references, bare of any context.
 
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