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Wkd BO 10•13-15•17 - Audiences show Death Day & Jackie Chan what love is, Blade dull

MIMIC

Banned
"Happy Death Day" was a nice, short, fun movie. Not surprised to see it take the top spot. And I see it quickly made back its budget. But since it's a Blumhouse flick, that's not surprising.
 

Pachimari

Member
So I know all about these large film studios like Legendary, Universal, Fox, Sony, Warner and Disney. And then I see companies like Blumhouse, Acorn and Weinstein, are these just smaller production houses who gets their work distributed by the larger companies? Are there many more smaller studios out there?
 

Ridley327

Member
So I know all about these large film studios like Legendary, Universal, Fox, Sony, Warner and Disney. And then I see companies like Blumhouse, Acorn and Weinstein, are these just smaller production houses who gets their work distributed by the larger companies? Are there many more smaller studios out there?

So, there are some production companies that do rely on a larger studio distributing for them (Blumhouse being a notable example), but there are others that do handle their own distribution, like A24, albeit on a much smaller scale than at one of the majors.
 

Ridley327

Member
So blade runner made its money back from international markets?

It made its production budget back, but it still has quite a ways to go considering all the marketing it now has to pay for. I think the most optimistic one can be for its performance by the end of its run is one of disappointment.
 

wwm0nkey

Member
It made its production budget back, but it still has quite a ways to go considering all the marketing it now has to pay for. I think the most optimistic one can be for its performance by the end of its run is one of disappointment.

Happy it got made at least, Will buy the 4K Bluray when it hits too. Still sucks about it's performance though :(
 

kswiston

Member
Oh China still to come? Great.

My guess would be about $25M down from the first film domestically, up slightly overseas minus China, plus whatever China does. It's hard to make any predictions when it comes to Chinese box office.

Even if China is way down, it should pass $350M. $400M is not unreasonable if China matches or exceeds the first film's take.
 

berzeli

Banned
So blade runner made its money back from international markets?
It made its production budget back, but it still has quite a ways to go considering all the marketing it now has to pay for. I think the most optimistic one can be for its performance by the end of its run is one of disappointment.
It's still in the red, distributors don't get to keep 100% of its earnings. And that's not accounting for P&A.

As it looks of now:
Warner just distributes so they're fine.
Sony might have a shot at making its money back but not much more than that since BR is doing okayish internationally.
Alcon is going to lose money, question is how much.
 

kswiston

Member
I'm still thinking $250-300M worldwide for Blade Runner. This weekend wasn't too bad internationally. I know that a couple of EU territories opened, but even with that, holdovers couldn't have been too bad to come close to $30M from a $48M opening last weekend.
 

berzeli

Banned
I'm still thinking $250-300M worldwide for Blade Runner. This weekend wasn't too bad internationally. I know that a couple of EU territories opened, but even with that, holdovers couldn't have been too bad to come close to $30M from a $48M opening last weekend.
The biggest worry as I see it is that BR opened to only $1.7 million in South Korea (admittedly with apparently three strong local films playing), that's not good for its chances in Japan and China. Then again:
It's hard to make any predictions when it comes to Chinese box office.
 

Miles X

Member
Worldwide Updates

IT - $631M
War for the Planet of the Apes - $488M
Annabelle Creation - $301M
Kingsman The Golden Circle - $287M
A Dog's Purpose - $201M
Blade Runner 2049 - $159M
American Made - $112M
The Foreigner - $101M
The LEGO Ninjago Movie - $97M

Warner Bros will have spent a budget of $50m across their summer/fall horrors, and made back $1b before marketing ect. Amazing.
 

kswiston

Member
The biggest worry as I see it is that BR opened to only $1.7 million in South Korea (admittedly with apparently three strong local films playing), that's not good for its chances in Japan and China. Then again:

$250M could probably happen without China if overseas legs don't completely die.
 

Busty

Banned
I'm still thinking $250-300M worldwide for Blade Runner. This weekend wasn't too bad internationally. I know that a couple of EU territories opened, but even with that, holdovers couldn't have been too bad to come close to $30M from a $48M opening last weekend.

Anything under $300m for BR2049 is a total disaster. I imagine that all the talent has back end deals too given that it's an 'independent' production and would probably have had to pay through the nose to bring Sir Ridley back onboard.

All in all this means a ton of red ink for Alcon and Sony Pictures despite all the spinning that was done in Deadline this past week.

So I know all about these large film studios like Legendary, Universal, Fox, Sony, Warner and Disney. And then I see companies like Blumhouse, Acorn and Weinstein, are these just smaller production houses who gets their work distributed by the larger companies? Are there many more smaller studios out there?

Legendary is not a large film studio. It doesn't have it's own distribution and just releases everything through Universal and WB for the Godzilla/Kong films.

Legendary doesn't currently have a CEO (nor has had one for the last year IIRC) and it's Chinese owner has been trying to quietly sell it for the last six months or so to little enthusiasm.
 

Roronoa Zoro

Gold Member
Screw blade runner as a franchise and especially this new one. That’s the closest I’ve ever come to falling asleep in the theater and I’ve never felt so detached from characters before. Someone just kill all the damn robots
 

Replicant

Member
Happy for Happy Death Day.

I watched it when I had a really shitty day and much to my surprise, it not only took my mind away from the problem but also cheered me up a little bit. It was a decently crafted horror film.
 
Screw blade runner as a franchise and especially this new one. That’s the closest I’ve ever come to falling asleep in the theater and I’ve never felt so detached from characters before. Someone just kill all the damn robots

There's a spectrum between "Blade Runner is the greatest thing ever" and "Blade Runner is so bad it will make you fall asleep".
 

jey_16

Banned
Warner Bros will have spent a budget of $50m across their summer/fall horrors, and made back $1b before marketing ect. Amazing.

Not hard to believe that WB's horror films will be more profitable then JL for them at this stage unless the later is a monster hit
 
Any UK folk lucky enough to live near somewhere that's showing the death of stalin? I had no idea it was going to have such a limited run, there are no screenings within 20 miles of me. looks like I'll have to head to my nearest city and catch one of the 3 or 4 times it's on. I assume it's probably going to be like this in the US and elsewhere too :(
 
Saw these threee thanks to MoviePass:

1. Death Day was fucking fantastic. Mean Girls meet horror.
2. Foreigner was great. Pierce stole the show.
3. Wonder Women was touching. It felt like a made for TV movie though. Would have been better as a Netflix release.
 
Damn. Blade Runner deserves so much better than this. Maybe it ends up making a killing on DVD/Blu-Ray and a bump for possible Oscar considerations.
 

kswiston

Member
I always got the impression that Legendary built an unearned reputation for itself early on by getting lucky with the WB/DC co-financing deal. When they tried to transition to their own film IPs, the wheels sort of fell off.
 

SpecX

Member
go shawty

it's yo birthday

we gon' party

like it's yo birthday

we gon get retarded

like it's yo birthday

and we don't give a fuck

it's not yo birthday
Honestly this song was a great way to advertise this movie. I didn't know anything about the movie, yet putting this in the commercial made it stay on my mind. Might go see this tomorrow.
 

Slayven

Member
Kingsman 2 made over $20M worldwide this weekend, and still has China and Japan left to open.

It is not going to limp past $300M. The first film made $75M in China.
Damn, so no Channing spinoff?
Always happy when solid low budget horror flicks make bank... usually means we'll get more of them
I am still waiting for Oculus 2
they skate on by with only making 5 to 13000 times the budgets

Paranormal Activity - 12866x
Paranormal Activity 2 - 59x
Insidious - 64x
Paranormal Activity 3 - 41x
Sinister - 25x
Paranormal Activity 4 - 28

and that's only their first 6 films

Other studios could earn a lot from them
 
Let rise a few million dollars and make a horror movie. I bet we make a profit.

For every $5 million horror movie you see that ends up in theaters, there's like 3-5 more that end up going straight to DVD/streaming. It's not a sure bet in the slightest.

Edit: That being said, the reason they've said they put their budgets around there is that if the movies end up terrible, they can usually make about that much just from licensing/streaming.
 

joezombie

Member
Make more movies.

The reason I ask is they're obviously not pouring that into more ambitious movies(and I'm not suggesting there's any reason for them to). Just wondering if they just have a ton of cash on hand or it just goes up Jason Blum's nose or what
 

kswiston

Member
The distributors are actually taking more of a risk than Blumhouse when they push a film for wide release, so Blumhouse is almost certainly taking a minority cut of the studio take.

Also, Blumhouse has been (slowly) increasing their budgets over the years. Jason Blum just doesn't believe in big budget films. After what happened to Alcon and Europacorp this year, probably a wise decision.
 
Seriously, why are people not watching Blade Runner, I legitimately don't understand.

Popular leading actors, fantastic visuals, and great reviews. Was the advertising really that bad? :/
 
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