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Here in Costa Rica I think 2 pages is the sweet spot. My resume skills have never failed me (I've used them 3 times now and haven't gotten ignored/rejected once). Here's the first page, for reference (It's made using LaTeX, by the way. People seem to appreciate that):

Why are you hiding your name but not the name of the paper you published and the other authors?
 
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At least it won't be as bad as this resume.
 
I've been meaning to put one up. I used a design posted earlier in this thread. I have gotten some compliments on the header. So thanks to who posted that!

I put it together in inDesign and with some privacy related modifications, here it is.


I've had it reviewed and it has been through many revisions. Hopefully for what I want to do, this is about the final config.
 
I'm in my 2nd year of college and was wondering, is it still necessary for me to put what high school I went to and the GPA I got there? I'll probably be applying to some accounting firms (private, Big 4, etc.).
 

usea

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I'm in my 2nd year of college and was wondering, is it still necessary for me to put what high school I went to and the GPA I got there? I'll probably be applying to some accounting firms (private, Big 4, etc.).
No. I can see you possibly including it if you needed some content for length and your GPA was super amazing. But you definitely don't need to put it, and it's kind of not useful/relevant information.
 

Minamu

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A bit of a bump perhaps but would GAF have any tips on how to write a cover letter? I'm not entirely sure where to begin or if my previous (Swedish) ones have been good or not.
 

RP912

Banned
1. Bullet points describing your work experiences.
2. Use Phrases instead of sentences.
3. Try using action words and avoid basic descriptions by any means
4. Keep your job history to a decade (don't go over that)
5. Have themes for every resume
6. keep the resume focus on the specialty job.
7. Don't include phone numbers of the past jobs


Thats all I can think of at the moment.
 

Minamu

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Dont put dates and years in the jobs you've worked. Just list the jobs.
Why not? Is this for my CV/resume or cover letter?

1. Bullet points describing your work experiences.
2. Use Phrases instead of sentences.
3. Try using action words and avoid basic descriptions by any means
4. Keep your job history to a decade (don't go over that)
5. Have themes for every resume
6. keep the resume focus on the specialty job.
7. Don't include phone numbers of the past jobs

Thats all I can think of at the moment.
Thanks. This sounds like my current resume, I'm using a template that some other GAF thread recommended actually, just need to add a photo of myself I think. But are these tips for my cover letter as well? I know I shouldn't write a novel but this sounds quite impersonal for something that's supposedly more personal? :)
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
A bit of a bump perhaps but would GAF have any tips on how to write a cover letter? I'm not entirely sure where to begin or if my previous (Swedish) ones have been good or not.
take the job requirements that they listed and work your work experience into it and tell them why you would be a good fit based on their requirements.
One or two paragraphs at most.

Dont put dates and years in the jobs you've worked. Just list the jobs.

i have seen the dates get asked for, so I just put them on. Many places liked that I had spent 4+ years at one job.
 

beat

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A bit of a bump perhaps but would GAF have any tips on how to write a cover letter? I'm not entirely sure where to begin or if my previous (Swedish) ones have been good or not.
I think I borrowed the format for mine from a cover letter template I found online. It's been years and years and I've stuck with it. <shrug>

Definitely adjust it to every job application. Add/delete keywords, move things around, highlight and emphasize the things you have in your experience and skills that they're looking for. Your resume and cover letter are to convince the gatekeepers (recruiters, HR, hiring manager) that you should be considered for an interview.
 

Minamu

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take the job requirements that they listed and work your work experience into it and tell them why you would be a good fit based on their requirements.
One or two paragraphs at most.
Ah okay so it's more about explaining why I think I fit in their company and less a biography about myself then. Good to know. In this case, there're no formal work requirements announced, I suppose it's more of a interest announcement from my end (even though one of their employees told me to apply for something specific). I'm straight out of school even though I've had unrelated jobs before, so I guess I'll have to show what I've learned in school and how I'm useful to them. I already have an upcoming unpaid internship of sorts over the summer lined up at the same place.

I think I borrowed the format for mine from a cover letter template I found online. It's been years and years and I've stuck with it. <shrug>

Definitely adjust it to every job application. Add/delete keywords, move things around, highlight and emphasize the things you have in your experience and skills that they're looking for. Your resume and cover letter are to convince the gatekeepers (recruiters, HR, hiring manager) that you should be considered for an interview.
Good advice, thanks!
 

Linkhero1

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I don't think you need to describe everything you've done for every single job either. You can probably just put the position title and the term. I'd also probably cut it down to a single page.
 

Cudder

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I'd cut the summary, put Key Skills at the end. I'd also edit the work experience to only valid experience to the job you're applying for.
 

Magnus

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Cut to one page. Lose the grossly oversized key skills section.

Noted; yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Make it 4 or 5 tops, yeah? (or wait, did you mean lose the section entirely?)

I don't think you need to describe everything you've done for every single job either. You can probably just put the position title and the term. I'd also probably cut it down to a single page.

I attempted a huge trim at one point earlier this year, and found that I could chop the whole thing down by like 30%, still leaving it at a page and a half or so. As soon as I felt it couldn't get down to one page, I embraced it and just used all of both pages, adding tons of white space in the process.

The reception's typically been great. People always tell me that 2 pages is alright as long as page 1 is bold and really impresses. In this case, it's my Summary, Key Skills, and my most recent and most relevant/important position, centre-stage. Page 2 is the 'everything else' I've been doing in my life to support and bring me to what's on Page 1.

I don't know. The most common debate I hear out there is the 1 vs 2 page debate. Everyone is really hard-lined about it, too, haha. It's either "Must be 1 page!" or "Don't limit it to 1 page!"
 

Linkhero1

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It really comes down to the person reading your resume. Most don't have the time to skim through 2 pages.

My main concern is the software they use to scan through resumes. I would assume that they're able to filter stacks of resumes based on the number of pages as well as keywords. Even if you're a qualified candidate the software might skip your resume due to the number of pages. Don't take my word for it. I'm sure other gaffers can clarify.
 

Cudder

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It really comes down to the person reading your resume. Most don't have the time to skim through 2 pages.

My main concern is the software they use to scan through resumes. I would assume that they're able to filter stacks of resumes based on the number of pages as well as keywords. Even if you're a qualified candidate the software might skip your resume due to the number of pages. Don't take my word for it. I'm sure other gaffers can clarify.

This is why you always edit your resume for the job you're applying to. Always look at the job posting and use the exact same words they use. Go on their website and do the same. The company goals section on either is pure gold.
 
so i pretty much followed all the resume advice of both my university and what i've picked up here, and then i get to an interview today and the guy looks up and down my resume then says "i'm not really a 'past' person, i'm all about the future and your potential." at which point he offered me the job.

moral? who really knows!
 

Magnus

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Alright, I just got a little hardcore about things and chopped it down to one page. Stripped it of all the fat, eliminated redundancies, and most painfully, removed the positions that don't pertain directly to the work I'm trying to get.

(I say painfully because in the past, those seemingly unrelated positions contained references, experiences, or evidence of skills that could still be transferrable or highly useful in my target field. They became big talking points in interviews in my current field all the time - they include significant retail/management experience, large-scale coordination of events, and my status as a black belt, which carries with it evidence of significant dedication and training. But alas. It's not directly related to my target field)

I took the often-recommended approach of getting rid of most of the responsibilities/descriptive elements, and attempted to stick mostly to notable achievements, awards, landmarks, or other 'big things' from the position.

Here's a 1-pager. Please, rip it apart. Love the critique! It's how things get better:

 

DrFurbs

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Jesus one page? All the things I've done during my PhD is actually asked for. My CV gets quite large. It wouldn't fit on one page. I mean a uni asks how you meet the essential criteria and you must outline each criterion.

How are you guys getting one page?
 
Jesus one page? All the things I've done during my PhD is actually asked for. My CV gets quite large. It wouldn't fit on one page. I mean a uni asks how you meet the essential criteria and you must outline each criterion.

How are you guys getting one page?

i actually got into an argument with my career advisers over the one page horseshit. i had to take out so much stuff, reduce font, spread margins, and generally resort to trickery that i told them that by the time i'm done, the damn thing is gonna be useless.

eventually, however, i got it to one.
 

mre

Golden Domers are chickenshit!!
Jesus one page? All the things I've done during my PhD is actually asked for. My CV gets quite large. It wouldn't fit on one page. I mean a uni asks how you meet the essential criteria and you must outline each criterion.

How are you guys getting one page?
There is a difference between resumes and CVs. I'm assuming you're listing all of your published articles and research work?
 
Jesus one page? All the things I've done during my PhD is actually asked for. My CV gets quite large. It wouldn't fit on one page. I mean a uni asks how you meet the essential criteria and you must outline each criterion.

How are you guys getting one page?

Stuff like this varies by industry. If longer resumes are common in academia, then you should stick to the longer resume. When people say 'cut to one page', they're usually talking to people who have allowed their resume to be taken over by padding, people who are not in fields that require such long resumes.
 

DrFurbs

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Yes I have to list publications and conferences etc.. Plus teaching, core skills,interpersonal crap .. Loads.

My CV is actually 9 pages long and I address each point they deem essential.
 

mre

Golden Domers are chickenshit!!
Yes I have to list publications and conferences etc.. Plus teaching, core skills,interpersonal crap .. Loads.

My CV is actually 9 pages long and I address each point they deem essential.
That's why. All that stuff isn't relative for most industries.
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
It really comes down to the person reading your resume. Most don't have the time to skim through 2 pages.

My main concern is the software they use to scan through resumes. I would assume that they're able to filter stacks of resumes based on the number of pages as well as keywords. Even if you're a qualified candidate the software might skip your resume due to the number of pages. Don't take my word for it. I'm sure other gaffers can clarify.

I work in IT and straight out of college my resume was 2 pages, with just my bachelors on the second.

After 6 years its a full two pages. I have gotten lots of interviews and after being fired from my first job, had a job in a week, after leaving that job and being let go from the subsequent job a week before thanksgiving, i had a new job in less than a month during the dreaded holiday season, also had another job offer in about two weeks that I turned down.

Also after doing some interviews or even screening resumes for my bosses its exceedingly rare that a resume comes across and is only one page.

Its damn near impossible to put all the pertinent information on one page, and I would actually be suspicious of someone with one page resume if they had any kind of experience at all.

Point being I think, the "resume must be one page" thing, is a myth.

This is for IT of course so YMMV depending on field.
 

Magnus

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I work in IT and straight out of college my resume was 2 pages, with just my bachelors on the second.

After 6 years its a full two pages. I have gotten lots of interviews and after being fired from my first job, had a job in a week, after leaving that job and being let go from the subsequent job a week before thanksgiving, i had a new job in less than a month during the dreaded holiday season, also had another job offer in about two weeks that I turned down.

Also after doing some interviews or even screening resumes for my bosses its exceedingly rare that a resume comes across and is only one page.

Its damn near impossible to put all the pertinent information on one page, and I would actually be suspicious of someone with one page resume if they had any kind of experience at all.

Point being I think, the "resume must be one page" thing, is a myth.

This is for IT of course so YMMV depending on field.

I've heard versions of this suspicion as well. I mean, I'm looking at my new 1-pager, and while I like how concise it is in terms of cutting to the point, it's so, so little of who I am and what I've done, and what I'm bringing to the table.

Bit scary to think that with each application and with each interview, you might have been better going with the other option, and you'll just never know.
 

beat

Member
I've had an ok career and my resume has been two pages for years and years now; hasn't stopped me from getting a decent number of interviews.

Of course I don't know if I would have gotten more or less with a one-page resume.

http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/...tail.aspx?id=pr780&sd=9/11/2013&ed=09/11/2013

Employers have different expectations for resume length based on tenure in the workforce. For new college graduates, 66 percent of employers said a resume should be one page long. For seasoned workers, the majority of employers (77 percent) said a resume should be at least two pages.
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
I've heard versions of this suspicion as well. I mean, I'm looking at my new 1-pager, and while I like how concise it is in terms of cutting to the point, it's so, so little of who I am and what I've done, and what I'm bringing to the table.

Bit scary to think that with each application and with each interview, you might have been better going with the other option, and you'll just never know.

yea. Just know that you can send out your resume to 100 companies and you may not get back any responses. Its really frustrating being on that end. But then when you talk to the recruiters they tell you they will get 100-200 resumes a day for a position.

What I would say is write an individual cover letter for each job, taking their job descriptions/requirements and fit them to your experience.

Use headhunters/recruiters, every site you can find, monster, career builder, DICE.com if you are IT related. a lot of gaf will tell you they are worthless, but every job I have gotten I have gotten through a recruiter, never once have i gotten a job because i knew someone there or knew someone who got me the job.
 

Minamu

Member
i'm having the same problem.

i can fill up one page of my retail work experience, but i dont feel it would relate to the position im applying for
Never do filler. Stick to the truth. If you don't have much experience, like myself, just put what you do have and let it stay there. Your resume shouldn't be more than 1, max 2, pages anyway. For example, the fact that I've worked in book stores and phone support for news papers is of little relevance to my current work area, trying to get into game development, but the boss himself said that any work experience is good. It just shows that you've done stuff and you never know when some seemingly unrelated skill may turn out to be useful. Own who you are and be proud of it.
 

Big Chungus

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Never do filler. Stick to the truth. If you don't have much experience, like myself, just put what you do have and let it stay there. Your resume shouldn't be more than 1, max 2, pages anyway. For example, the fact that I've worked in book stores and phone support for news papers is of little relevance to my current work area, trying to get into game development, but the boss himself said that any work experience is good. It just shows that you've done stuff and you never know when some seemingly unrelated skill may turn out to be useful. Own who you are and be proud of it.

Should I at least create two headers, one for related experience and another for additional experience?
 

stn

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Remove the qualifications section at the beginning, your accomplishments should be proof of that anyway. Trim it down to one page. Remove your secondary school, its not needed if you've listed your college and university. I'll see if I think of anything else.
 

Big Chungus

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Not sure if I'm missing a page, but the first key skill mentions over ten years experience, but I can only see one role from Sep 2013 - April 2014.

Yeah not sure if I should include that but i've been helping people with their pcs, setting up small networks and printer problems for more than 10 years.

It was a sidejob I guess.
 
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