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Mark Hamill: Luke was ALWAYS the villain!
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Man, that's bad
omnislayer
Member
Yeah but was it Luke Prime or Bigger Luke?
oh please happen!
DangerMouse
Member
Agreed. I don't like the idea of that happening.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
NekoFever
Member
Could be Luuke.
Brat-Sampson
Member
It's time, Episode 8 = Punished Luke.
Stead Fast
Banned
I know what you mean, but as a worker there has to be some extreme mental gymnastics you have to do for yourself to work on a station named the Death Star and not worry about your perceived morality and innocence.
Like, "It's not MY fault, rebels! I just work here on The Death Star!"
Forerunner
Member
The empire enslaved populations of quit a few planets to do their dirty work.
How do you people even function? I imagine you can't even be told when to next meet for drinks without jamming your hands over your ears and crying "spoilers!".
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Both sides
This is such a meaningless text when one of the sides I literally just mindless robots.
Its not.
And the other side is mostly mindless clones lol. I guess heroism and evil was programmed into the drones/ clones.
He's Somewhat Damaged.
Thing is, to the empire and people who believed in it. The Sith were heroes.
A job is a job. People work for corporations every day who do incredibly awful things to many different people, animals and the environment.
People join the army for instance, they don't get to chose where they go so it could be like that. They're staff of the Empire and just got stationed on the death star.
buttery fistful
Member
Luke = Cock Knocker
I'm mainly referring to the overall syntactic unpleasantness of the short sentences "There are heroes on both sides" and "Evil is everywhere" in direct tandem.
I'm not even GETTING to what the sentences entail.
NekoFever
Member
Were the Sith even public knowledge? In ANH we see one of the admirals questioning the existence of the Force to Vader's face. You don't do that if you know your ultimate boss and ruler of the galaxy is a practitioner. You probably don't get to be an admiral if you're a skeptic over something like that when it's out in the open.
I think of them as a secret order.
Confirmed?
As much as I want this no way in hell is this ever being put to film. I think it actually would have been amazing if they had adapted Dark Empire instead of these current films though. Or at least some elements of it. They would have been a LOT more interesting and would have loved to see some reactions to that story.
Speaking of which and going off topic I wish Disney and Lucasfilm would animate some of these older stories under their Legends banner the way Warner Bros has and is animating story arcs and the elseworlds stories from the DC comics.
Count Dookkake
Member
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omnislayer
Member
The Separatists were much more than just the Trade Federation's Droid Army, but the movies do a shit job of establishing that.
dragonchild
Banned
oneils
Member
How does this work? Got a link to someone that does this? Im not the greatest critic so Im stuck in my simple mind and would love to see the analysis. Sounds fun and interesting.
You think Star Wars is a laughing matter? This isnt a game here, shit just got real!
Saint Gregory
Member
Damn, there were 300,000 people on the Death Star? I mean, it was called the Death Star so you're probably not a great person if you choose to work there but still.
They're complicit in destroying a planet filled with billions. Fuck them.
What a mess.
Hmm, an interesting observation.
Would be if the Empire wouldnt obliterate entire planets just for kicks.
Terrorists or freedomfighters? Think its pretty obvious.
Would love to see Luke turn evil and Kylo fighting him though.
Saint Gregory
Member
Chuckie
Member
Lol that doesn't matter though... can you imagine a movie that starts with a scroll saying:
WORLD WAR 2, there are heroes on both sides. Evil is everywhere!
I don't think that is what this messy text means though. It means there are two sides in this war, both with evil persons and heroes. Problem is, while I clearly see evil on both sides, I fail to see the heroes on the Separatist side.
QuantumZebra
Member
Easily the best Flash episodes outside of spoilery stuff
If you didn't try to escape or defect after destroying a planet, no sympathy for space Nazis.
Chuckie
Member
Are the slaves still working on the Death Star?
Personally I would feel sorry for the slaves, but would consider them collateral damage.
Luke isn't evil for destroying the Death Star.
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
My head cannon has always been that Vader was doing everything in his power to ensure the emperor didn't have ultimate power so he could over throw him. He allowed luke to destroy the death star for this reason.
Also, Vader knew luke was his son the second he first saw him (through the force). He also knew Leia was his daughter. Why do you think it was so easy for Han, Luke, Chewie and Leia to escape the death star? Who do you really think stopped the trash compactor? A droid, or a father?
In Empire strikes back Vader tortures Han because he doesn't think he is good enough for his daughter. He then uses him as a test subject for carbonite freezing to keep him away from Leia.
In RoTJ Vader brings luke right to the emperor and is the one who ultimately destroys him. The biggest twist in star wars is not that Vader turned good in the end. Vader was never really bad (just really fucked up in the head). Hell, he was framed for the death of younglings (did you see him kill them?) by the jedi council because he had caught on to their corruption. Anakin truly believed the Jedi were corrupt. His big mistake was trusting the emperor who actually was evil. After becoming Vader he decided to make things right by working from the inside to destroy the empire.
The whole ordeal was an inside job perpetrated by Anakin Skywalker to make up for choosing the wrong side. He was merely playing the same role that many undercover cops play.
Remember there is no real light or dark side, just the force and how those choose to use it (OG EU readers should be familiar with this).
Chuckie
Member
Lol this reads like a conspiracy theory.
Gai Murakumo
Member
He really has a point. Join the Dark Side Rey we have cookies.
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
Oh yeah, well think about this. Anakin was supposed to bring balance to the force. Well, he pretty much did by destroying the corrupt jedi until there were only 2 sith and a handful of jedi. Much more in balance don't you think?
The sad thing is Obi Wan was a brainwashed soldier who spent his entire life believing a lie. He died by essentially committing suicide in battle forcing Vader to look evil in Luke's eyes (further propping up the lie). If you watch that fight Vader doesn't even seem to be trying. Vader did not intend to kill Obi Wan, he pitied him.
gunstarhero
Member
The villains are always looming at the back...
Except for... you know, Emperor Palpatine. -_-
Except for... you know, Emperor Palpatine. -_-
Chuckie
Member
Lol. If he really was good he could and should have killed Palpy a long time ago. And if it was really about 'balance in the Force', he SHOULDN'T have killed Palpy....cause by doing so the balance was gone.
Vader is one of the coolest bad guys in film, and his redemption was a nice moment. All this (admittedly funny) bullshit just takes that all away.
Living the Dream
Member
Dorthy is a blood thirst villain too.