TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
7.5ish is a good score. Reviewers seem to be falling for less hype these days on most games so review scores are lower for everything.
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Gran Turismo Sport - Review Thread
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CaptainClaw
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It's honestly not that deep, like really.
That's funny...
I love it when lame attempts at discrediting someone's posts are so transparent, it really requires zero effort on my part at all to show
I also love it when people lose an argument they're having and then try to go back to the beginning of it and try to shed their original post that got an appropriate reply in a different light in an attempt to discredit the argument that took place after that point:. Also, I call out ridiculous shit when I see it, and your post was ridiculous. That's why I got involved.
This is far from a "simple suggestion" and I replied with the fact that there isn't a demo to try at this point in time and not everyone was able to try out a beta and so on and so on. So maybe, you should be reading over your previous posts every time you make a new one, since you seem to forget pretty quickly as to what the conversation is even about and how it started. You forgot your initial post, and you forgot when you brought up the competition first already. I wonder what else you're going to forget now. Actually never mind. I'm pretty much done here and have to go anyways. And the review thread would be better if this silliness just stopped here.
John Wick
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I replied to someone else (Kenziedielocke). He bought it up. You jumped into that conversation when we were already in conversation. So between me and you no I didn't bring it up.
I never said anything about criticism. Regarding Content and features your best forwarding those questions to PD. I said judging by their statements and previous support expect more content and features in the future
Mr Moose
Member
lol
Yeah, I played a few Sport events last night where people were going out of their way to avoid hitting other cars and thought to myself PD could be on to something really special here so long as they handle it properly. Could be a game changer for racing sims on console.
John Wick
Member
Shifts focus massively?
GT6 was about racing? Did it have online racing?
GT Sport is about racing? It has online racing?
I fail to see the massive shift in focus.
This thread has gotten really defensive really fast.
Its ok to be critical of things in this game. It is very clearly NOT a game that is trying to be for everyone.
If you are the type of person who loves time trials, loves perfecting your laps, setting good qualifying times. Then you will obviously love this game.
But you have to also understand thats a much more narrow niche than GT usually fills.
The game is not perfect. The track list is small for a modern racing game, the car list is small, and has a lot of very similar models (several mustangs, several wrx. The always online stuff is going to turn people off.
And even then, for the mega gear heads, the upgrades also arent as deep as the competition.
This isnt a driving game, it is a racing game. And if you dont understand/care about the SPORT of racing, then i totally understand not liking the game much at all, because it doesnt offer anything beyond that
Its ok to be critical of things in this game. It is very clearly NOT a game that is trying to be for everyone.
If you are the type of person who loves time trials, loves perfecting your laps, setting good qualifying times. Then you will obviously love this game.
But you have to also understand thats a much more narrow niche than GT usually fills.
The game is not perfect. The track list is small for a modern racing game, the car list is small, and has a lot of very similar models (several mustangs, several wrx. The always online stuff is going to turn people off.
And even then, for the mega gear heads, the upgrades also arent as deep as the competition.
This isnt a driving game, it is a racing game. And if you dont understand/care about the SPORT of racing, then i totally understand not liking the game much at all, because it doesnt offer anything beyond that
Okay now I know you're trolling, and I really feel bad about wasting so much time on you. This shit is hysterical.
TheAdmiester
Member
The shift from being a CarPG with a full set of championships to being an online centered esports title?
There are different facets to racing, you know. Would you say Mario Kart and GT have the same focus just because they're both racing games?
Get out of here with that level headedness
This is a real change for the franchise, it has dropped all of its past structure for a new one. Apparently it won't knock it out of the park for critics with Sport, but this is a new beginning for GT going forward.
Chobel
Member
C'mon you're not even trying anymore, I doubt even you believe the BS you wrote above lol.
Hold up... Kenziedielocke is free to jump in here to clarify, but why are you so certain he didn't try the beta/demo? He posted in the demo thread:
It's also not the only time in this thread you've simply dismissed someone's criticism with "you should have tried the demo" (ignoring any potential reasons they may not have been able to). You posted earlier to JackAubrey:
...who also has multiple posts in the GTS demo thread, with his impressions of the game.
Maybe stop assuming any criticism on the game comes exclusively from people that haven't tried it?
What? They did.
LordOcidax
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🤔🤔🤔... Back to GT3 formula?
thelastword
Banned
There's nothing wrong with the score, generally I have no problems with any score, but if he felt the game was that good already, perhaps if he played it a bit more .."the way it was meant to be played" and spent enough time with it's main features, he would have liked it even more.
It's crazy too because I feel there's a lot that the game offers in terms of features and content that's not being mentioned.....
Why I am not hearing much more about;
1.) Splitscreen Racing in 2017 as a feature and it's actually done the right way too
2.) Super fast saves, proper leaderboards and pretty much every activity you do in the game is recorded and logged to a kinda profile rpg in the background, where you get rewards and achieve milestones etc..
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3.) The best photo mode in any game, Scapes is meaty and full of locales and content and everything is tied to social media to post photos etc..
4.) I remember a time when the livery editor was all the rage because GT didn't have one, now it has the best one, where you can use SVG downloads/uploads, where is all the talk about it...
5.) Why aren't we talking more about the more challenging events and races, the better sound, the better A.I. the solid 60fps. The graphical flourishes not seen in other racers.
6.) Why aren't we talking more about the genius structure of the online racing, the vision behind it, you need to learn proper etiquette before you can race online. SR is a genius feature and ensures people get into the right mode for proper play. If you just want to drive in reverse or pummel people to the wall, that's fine, but there's redress. Why aren't they talking about the 20 + 40 minute spaces between races, I think that's genius too. You get enough time to get some laps on the track to get familiar and you can also register for multiple races at a time, so when your 20 is done you can do the 40 next. The system works, it's great, you get a feeling that you don't have to win every race, but racing cleanly is it's own reward....Hell, that does more for the racing community than people are willing to admit, people will be more focused in driving properly and that's a better and the proper direction for popularizing and esporting racing to a professional setting for gamers....a la cod, SFV etc...
7.) Where's the talk of VR, it a very good implementation, though light in content ATM, but the cogs on this are well oiled, I'm sure it will be fleshed out a bit further down the line.
8.) Most importantly though is the content, you had many arguments on here on how light content would be in GTS...Bollocks...There's is so much content here....So many licenses to do here, so many mission challenges (the bulk of the content and challenge in GTS) , so much to do and learn in circuit experience......Time trials galore, arcade races and split screen for offline with friends et al. I really believe all this talk about GT being light on features and events should be dispelled for what it is...A lie.....I spent a few hours yesterday, getting all the golds from the beginner licenses and going through and briefing through the modes and options....Intermediate licenses are no joke and trying to gold all of this and playing all of this even if you don't go for gold is going to take a long long time....Light on content? certainly no tin this game.
Perhaps others can touch more on scapes, livery etc...because this is not my focus/jam, but this game is definitely more than worth it for all I'm seeing here..........
They quite literally changed everything. lol
Amazing how some other games that will not be mentioned got a free pass for not having the same things gt5 and 6 had. (Dynamic weather, time, expansive photomode and cars etc etc )
Opus Angelorum
Member
A-Spec was SO good.
John Wick
Member
The shift from being a CarPG with a full set of championships to being an online centered esports title?
There are different facets to racing, you know. Would you say Mario Kart and GT have the same focus just because they're both racing games?
Get out of here with that level headedness
Now your being ridiculous. GT and Mario Kart while racing games in principle are different. GT 6 and GT Sport are the same. Just certain features have been cut or aren't yet added in GT Sport. There is No Massive shift in focus. Maybe online is the main focus but online was available in 6
I'll repeat: The shift from being a CarPG with a full set of championships to being an online centered esports gaas title is not a shift of focus?
I could ignore online in 6 and play the career mode. I can't do that in GTS.
TheAdmiester
Member
Yes, a "cut certain feature" such as the entirety of the game's CarPG elements, which make GTS and GT6 games with different focuses. Glad you understand now.
John Wick
Member
"Then you have the other crazies putting the game down because of online focus and no single player and less cars etc etc. Just try the game. You might just like it. We weren't all born playing COD or FIFA online were we???"
That was too inner-G as well
Tomeru
Member
That is not whathe said. But then there are people who know when to stop and people who take everything personally. It's not mine or your personal game that PD has offended.
FlutterPuffs
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Well... Close.
I miss the caRPG interface, but they're not wrong that the single player content is pretty beefy. Scapes and photomode is awesome. How sharing and viewing other players' content is seamless and addicting.
Just you know, there's some things that it could have done better.
What I'm asking, is why you're so sure people haven't tried the demo? Has inner-G explicitly stated that he hasn't tried it? It's one thing to ask if they had, but you're making statements instead.
ShadowSoldier89
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I'm glad I played the demo. Freshest racing game I've played in years. Having a blast with the final release so far. Can't wait for custom livery uploader to come online
Can only hope. All of GT3 with a fleshed out online model would be awesome.
Yautja_Warrior
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Eurogamer - Recommended
PowerUp! - 9.5/10
Gadgets 360 - 9/10
Progress Bar - 9/10
ZWAME Jogos (Portuguese) - 9/10
PSLife (Danish) - 8.5/10
Worthplaying - 8/10
GamesRadar - 4/5
DarkStation - 4/5
Alphr - 4/5
Yeah big wake up call.......
GTR R35_Supra RZ
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76 is wayyyy to high for a demo...no ps++offline+no saves=disgusting. .how they get away with this.
BBQ_of_DOOM
Member
They fact they completely refocused one of the most popular series of all time and are getting largely positive reviews is a great sign for the quality of the actual game and also this platform going forward.
Still, the scores are no surprise at all. Thats the nature of the beast when you massively change things.
Synless
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Lets cherry pick the best review scores when the meta is sitting in the high 70's. For the rest of the quotes I saw, just because you make a change doesn't mean it was the right one as seen by the reviewers. Long development times and average scores should be a wake up call for a developer who was consistently on top for the longest time. It is obvious they are not the best anymore regardless of these brave changes they made.
get2sammyb
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The irony.
Maintenance
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Yautja_Warrior
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So it's ok to only use the low scores or the 5 scores on MC ?
These good ones count too.
*kaz laughs* see you in another 4 years.
Audioboxer
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Metacritic heading near the 70~75 category, maybe I won't need to dine on crow
isaacnukem
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What is a livery?
This is also my answer.
I get that people REALLY miss the caRPG progression, but the structured challenges in turn have been far more effective at keeping me engaged and delivering a willingness to actually improve my skill threshold with this big dumb steering wheel. There is a lot to dig into despite the flailing argument to the contrary. I loved the concept of the rags to riches career, but it always fell flat and grew tedious after the excitement of buying your first car and never quite delivered for me.
Beyond that, the interface and presentation is beyond anything GT has ever delivered. Loading is snappy, the UX is beautiful, scapes is pointless to me but still adds quite a bit to the veneer with these incredible images cycling through the backdrop. Its all wonderfully packaged.
But I can empathize that medal-chasing alone isnt enough for some. Outside of Driveclub and classic Burnout, racing games have either emphasized open world activities or big calendar event progressions and personalized car choices, which is absent here. (Well Forza 7 went backwards too this year, and without loot boxes suffocating the oxygen, I guarantee people would be up in arms over that career choice).
Synless
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I assumed they were counted. I didn't comb through the reviews to see they were not.