PackAPunchedMick
Member
My sentiments exactly. What GTS does focus on is nigh on perfect.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Gran Turismo Sport - Review Thread
- Thread starter bombshell
- Start date
My sentiments exactly. What GTS does focus on is nigh on perfect.
Which others did you play?
BigEmil
Junior Member
Yep. Unsubscribed from GamesRadar what a joke and the reviewer is not even hiding his bias
Unknown?
Member
I agree but thats not how it works in GT threads.
It's not limited to GT threads
IISANDERII
Member
100% wrong. GT5 and 6 were so good with their online lobbies that they decided this entirely new direction for the series because of them.
If it wasnt for the incredible online racing, GT5 would not have been most played game last generation.
PackAPunchedMick
Member
I've been online gaming since Chu chu rocket and played pretty much every racing game between then and now.
With the exception of the first forza game.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
I feel like a racing game that had so much appeal, sold millions of copies, shouldn't go ahead and be that limiting for a specific type of gamer.
What do you mean by this? Seems like maybe car count is the closest thing to an objective flaw.
Unknown?
Member
I hated both of those games online and never tried them once after the first time. It was hard to find quality racing by just looking at lobbies and cars Warped all over. Was a big reason I was wary about GT Sport.
I have a feeling (and time will tell if that is correct) that the more time passes the better (on average) reviews will be (Obviously there will still be ups and downs).
The reason for this is that it looks like the strength of GTS is in its pure racing and competition format, and you can't test that in deep in just 24h.
Now the first batch of scores have been (and might continue to be for a bit) lackluster due to the understandable (for publications) rush to review - which is also why RiPs are better, specially for online games.
For this situation, and given the format of the game, I'm going to straight blame Sony and PD.
They should have kept a server or two open if only for reviewers.
Heck, they should have left the demo running throughout, without interruption, critics having access to the fully featured game, and players seemlessly transitionning with their bought copy.
The reason for this is that it looks like the strength of GTS is in its pure racing and competition format, and you can't test that in deep in just 24h.
Now the first batch of scores have been (and might continue to be for a bit) lackluster due to the understandable (for publications) rush to review - which is also why RiPs are better, specially for online games.
For this situation, and given the format of the game, I'm going to straight blame Sony and PD.
They should have kept a server or two open if only for reviewers.
Heck, they should have left the demo running throughout, without interruption, critics having access to the fully featured game, and players seemlessly transitionning with their bought copy.
Totally what?
Absoludacrous
Member
Bombcast is going to be a pretty accurate description for a lot of people I think. And it's very much couched with "this game is going to be awesome for this subset of people". I don't know that you could have a casual discussion of what Gran Turismo has become with this iteration any differently.
ricen-beans
Member
Havent listen to GB in a while. Does your comment mean they liked it? Or didnt?
Yeah totally totally.
Steve McQueen
Member
Only 3 hours in but damn the game is awesome! Wouldn't expect it to be otherwise. Missed the beta when it ended.
Now for some extra tracks, cars and weather and this game will be glorious!
Now for some extra tracks, cars and weather and this game will be glorious!
BBQ_of_DOOM
Member
What PD has done is built quite an outstanding platform for racing content. The extras, and cyclical content and competitions, will be the key.
opticalmace
Member
Well I'm offended.
lol. Fascinating that you'd think so, same dude gave FM6 its lowest score on Meta... http://www.gamesradar.com/forza-motorsport-6-review/
Yes.
SplitYourInfinities
Member
So Forza still king?
Oachkatzlschwoaf
Member
I think you are completely
PlayStation LifeStyle 7/10
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net...o-sport-review-technical-marvel-ps4/#/slide/1
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net...o-sport-review-technical-marvel-ps4/#/slide/1
thelastword
Banned
So would a GT5/6 remaster be a good thing for those persons?
I guess the proper reviews after taking GTS through it's paces are coming in....Spend some time with the title and it's quite well done and unique in the current space or crop of racers this season...Also, framerate is amazing, a place where GT5/6 was not as solid and criticized last gen...
You remember that? BF4 got great reviews on name alone, but those servers at launch.....Here we have a game with great servers, superb online and none of the early reviews are heralding this in "an online focused game"......DerZuhälter;252415590 said:
It's crazy, because in a game like BF4, people will tell you "who plays the campaign anyway", but in a game like GTS where everything you do, every license, challenge and circuit trial, it's basically an RPG'd career in the background on your profile, which could mean good things for you, with FIA championships etc.. if you learn well...Don't know why the reviewers are not seeing what the game is offering here...
I guess more thorough impressions of what the game is and how it plays are coming in...It's good to see at least...
Apex
Member
thelastword
Banned
Hmmm, another poster declares bias for GTS when the guy gave Forza 7 a 5?....
opticalmace
Member
^ I've lost track of which way gamesradar is supposed to be biased. ~_~
Hyperboles are bad no matter which way they go, I just cringe when I read such things.
I remember a channel that was specialized in racing sims or something on Youtube, anybody happens to have the link por favor? Hopefully they have a review up soon.
What seems crazy to me is that this reviewer (as well as some others) dings the game on what it isn't supposed to be (a single player offline game), and counts the bonus VR mode (which he seems to love) as a negative because he wants more of it...
Edit: his opinion on what the game actually stands for is: Technical Marvel and Top Notch racing.
Speaking as one of these persons, at this point I would take whatever they throw at me. I'm so sad to be left out of the only racing game that ever hooked me.
I love, LOVE everything in GTS, the presentation, the music, the menu, the gameplay, photo mode, liveries. But I don't enjoy online racing and I don't have PS+. I don't like the lack of road cars either, but that I could pass.
I know it's a pipedream, but if somehow the could merge all of that with a career mode similar to 5/6 (even if it is a 1:1 remake), I'd buy the deluxe-limited-gold edition retail and digital in a heartbeat.
Steve McQueen
Member
No worries here. GT always got some great patches along the way.
Absoludacrous
Member
Yea, I think this is a good point that is going to cause a big casual drop off. The idea of the sport mode is great, but if you aren't good (and a lot of racing players aren't) you're going to get low qualifying lap times, get stuck in the back of the pack, watch your SR and DR fall, and eventually give up.
I think this is something that might not even show its effects with this game, but might end up hurting the mass market appeal of the next one to come.
BBQ_of_DOOM
Member
I always thought the 70s were where this will settle. You can't take a robust SP experience and turn it into a GaaS and expect folks to wholesale (i) understand it, (ii) like it, and (iii) accept it for what it is without any regard to the past.
I think when you get beyond the "well this isn't GT" idea, you'll find that there's a lot that this game does exceedingly well. You just have to get there, which may or may not be a problem for you/a reviewer.
pixelation
Member
Not for me, they are just around where i thought they'd be. Ever since the reveal people haven't been down with it, even less so with all of the missing content and online focus.
No I didn't It was assumed in replying to the person who was tripping balls on how biased this guy was for Forza 7 that he had read that review.
my point is that if he was so biased for Forza why did he slam 6 with its first meta below 90 when it came out 30 points below the average at the time?
I hope you're not saying I said that, because I didn't.
Looking back at my post in the prediction thread it is doing a bit better than I thought it would (76). And damn I over shot Forza 7(91 vs 86), though after playing it I would have gone lower. At least I was close on PC2 (83 vs 86).
SprachBrooks
Member
78, eeek. Im really intrigued with how this one will sell.
eyeball_kid
Member
I still think it'll end up around 82. There's a lot of bigger outlets that haven't shown up to the party yet.
Millions easily. How long the community stays with it will be more interesting.
BBQ_of_DOOM
Member
And more important, IMO.
HueyFreeman
Banned
Via Metacritic
GT 96
GT2 93
GT3 A spec 95
GT4 89
GT5 84
GT6 81
GT Sport 78 (which may settle out differently, but I don't think too far from this)
Remarkably consistent decline since A-spec. I wrote a thread 3 years ago asking how you fix GT, and interestingly, two of these problems are somewhat solved. The even quality bar of the cars is there now, which I'm fully behind, and putting real humans in there is an interesting way to fix the driving AI. I can't escape the feeling that this is a real monkey paw situation though. As broken as much of GT was, these are not the solutions that I - and I think a lot of fans - were hoping for. I think the scores reflect that.
I think the key is the last point. I don't think Kaz needs to go entirely, but he needs to recognize this series is enormously diminished from its former self, and that he needs other, probably Western racing developer input.
This is not to say people won't love this game and have every right to. It's just so disappointing for a fan like me to see that he's taken what I loved about it - the SP experience - and effectively scrapped it (please, no "there IS a campaign!" posts), while scaling way back the number of tracks.
Really hoping for some kind of 1 year major update which adds a full campaign, and by then we'll have seen a huge boost in cars and tracks, all at launch price.
GT 96
GT2 93
GT3 A spec 95
GT4 89
GT5 84
GT6 81
GT Sport 78 (which may settle out differently, but I don't think too far from this)
Remarkably consistent decline since A-spec. I wrote a thread 3 years ago asking how you fix GT, and interestingly, two of these problems are somewhat solved. The even quality bar of the cars is there now, which I'm fully behind, and putting real humans in there is an interesting way to fix the driving AI. I can't escape the feeling that this is a real monkey paw situation though. As broken as much of GT was, these are not the solutions that I - and I think a lot of fans - were hoping for. I think the scores reflect that.
I think the key is the last point. I don't think Kaz needs to go entirely, but he needs to recognize this series is enormously diminished from its former self, and that he needs other, probably Western racing developer input.
This is not to say people won't love this game and have every right to. It's just so disappointing for a fan like me to see that he's taken what I loved about it - the SP experience - and effectively scrapped it (please, no "there IS a campaign!" posts), while scaling way back the number of tracks.
Really hoping for some kind of 1 year major update which adds a full campaign, and by then we'll have seen a huge boost in cars and tracks, all at launch price.
Inside Sim Racing?
They're awesome, but don't expect anything too soon.
They take their time with new releases before rendering a verdict.
Tomeru
Member
I feel like a band like Opeth shouldn't have changed gone the route they did after Watershed, but hey.
Unknown?
Member
TBF GT3 would have been lucky to score an 80 if it released today. Even if it had damage and top notch graphics. It didnt have much more content and you can see that content is the #1 Con on most critics lists.
If they bring back a traditional campaign I hope to heck it isnt like what we got in GT3-6.