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DF: Shadow of War: Early Xbox One X vs PS4 Pro Graphics Comparison + Frame-Rate test
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EtherMagic
Member
Amazing artist drawing reminds me of my 2 twin step sons, that i feel like cracking skulls with my powerful Xbone Fist every 2 minutes thru-out the day! lol
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
No, just XBX threads.
NoMoreTrolls
Banned
Nah, give it a few months for the new status quo to set in. The first few months of Xbox losing 9 times out of 10 were filled with shitposting, then once the fanboys lost interest in pretending to care about technical differences the threads got a lot more tolerable.
MilkyJoe
Member
Why? Because the fanboys want ta new console to beat X? Where's the business sense in bringing out another console 3 years after the last.
Welfare
Member
The Pro did come out 3 years after the PS4. Could be possible Sony wants to go on 3 year cycles for hardware launches.
I still think PS5 should be 4 years out from Pro (2020) but it would be interesting to see if Xbox has something planed for 2020 in that case, otherwise PS5 could have 2 years to itself.
SimpleCRIPPLE
Member
In order not to have a Jaguar in it, they have no choice but to wait until 2020 (unless they want their console to cost upwards of $6-700 in 2019, and loose money on it at that). Tech prices need to drop, and im mainly talking about CPU's.
Holiday 2020 will be the braking point. PS5 roles out with a $499 price tag.
This is how i see it going down...
CES 2018- Sony gives a tease of PS5, just to give there fanbase a lil pep and talk time, and to take the wind out of MS One X showing.
CES 2019- Sony officially announces specs ect for PS5. With a launch date. 9-9-20
CES 2020- Sony will be ready to roll! PS5 will launch 9-9-20, launching with a marketing campaign glorifying the 25th anniversary of the original PS1 launch in the USA that happened on 9-9-95!!! I was there that day, and as much as i hate the PS controller, i will have no choice but to be in that line scooping up my PS5, simply for nostalgia purposes!
No way they tease it over 2 years early if theyre launching in 2020, but launching on 9-9-20 as the 25th anniversary makes so much sense that if they do launch on 2020 and its any other day, theyre idiots. Maybe if they didnt have the Pro on the market, but theres just no way they kneecap the Pro like that.
BBQ_of_DOOM
Member
Itll be curious to see what happens if Sony declares a new generation and MS maintains the pathing to a generation-less future.
EtherMagic
Member
Tech needs to drop in price for an affordable next gen console, it's a fact and it's just that simple. 2020 is the sweet spot for that target.
If MS is correct in claiming they are not making a dime on the One X selling it at $499 (at the end of 2017 with a Jaguar CPU), then we are a good (atleast) 3 years away from an affordable truely next gen console.
Why is there so much future PS5 tech talk in here? Damn, every 1x thread is going to end up like this.
I think MS made a good choice putting extra RAM in the system. Should really help run those extra assets etc. I wonder if DF will go back and redo some of the games that get 4k asset and patches at launch?
I think MS made a good choice putting extra RAM in the system. Should really help run those extra assets etc. I wonder if DF will go back and redo some of the games that get 4k asset and patches at launch?
texhnolyze
Banned
But every games comparison will have XBX in it from now on.
Sony needs that most powerful console title back.
Spider_Jerusalem
Member
I doubt Sony will go so short given PS4 sales. And I don't see Xbox One/X impairing that advantage. PS4 is a very profitable console, they won't kill it with a new gen just for the sake of having the most powerful hardware.
So yeah, I think a 7-8 years long gen for PS4 makes sense, so it could launch in 2020 at the earliest.
For Xbox, who knows. It all depends on the traction X gets. They could wait 4 more years, or be pressed to release a new console earlier. If X will be successful, I bet they'll try to repeat it by releasing a more powerful console than PS5, one year after Sony launches it.
Leyasu
Banned
Correction, the fans need that back
NoHeDidn't
Member
When the cheaper PS4 looked better than the more expensive Xbone that was news and worthy of praise.Now here the more expensive console looks better than the cheaper console.....well thats how it should be.
PS4Pro=$400
XoneX=$500
Whether the upgrade is worth $100 is the question especially if you can only afford one current gen console and you lose those amazing Sony exclusives.
PS4Pro=$400
XoneX=$500
Whether the upgrade is worth $100 is the question especially if you can only afford one current gen console and you lose those amazing Sony exclusives.
That's the thing, for most living room setups, the difference in resolution between 4k and 1080p is unnoticeable. However, the huge improvement in texture quality the X1X will provide IS visible at comfy couch viewing distances.
I really hope a Quality Mode with dynamic resolution becomes a standard. Native 4K just isn't important to me.
Sure. Like with everything you spend money on-
Which many already bought. Who buys the Pro?
And this is where it becomes subjective.
But I guess you already made your decision.
nismopower
Member
Couldnt have said it any better !!
Also expect a 350 euros/dollar price when xox launches. Especially around Christmas and black friday.
But why even spend money for the Pro? If you want to get all the amazing exclusives you can buy a PS4 this holiday dirt cheap, potentially. Perhaps with GTS as a pack-in. Who wants to spend $150 more?
Thats why the base PS4 makes up the majority of the sales.
I didn't argue that.
I'm puzzled by how some people are surprised by this.
If you compare the specs of each hardware, its clearly obvious that the XBX is going to have an advantage.
I wonder how the RDR2 threads going to be when a comparison articles gets published.
Well I'm pretty sure the console version isn't gonna be running at ultra settings,which usually have some particularly demanding effects beyond the usual console settings.
MilkyJoe
Member
I think because the narrative has been that they will look the same but at a higher resolution, as it's not worth the dev's time, or something.
The fans have that? They always have that...whichever console is the most powerful is that.
This train of thought is the same as 'the human eye can't notice over 60fps". It's damn obvious when something is 1080p vs 4k no matter what distance I sit at unless my room layout is absolutely gigantic. Hell, you can even tell a tangible difference in clarity between 1080 vs 1440 upscaled games..
Alpha Phoenix
Member
This is the answer.
This isn't even the 2013 situation with XBO and PS4. The X is absolutely blowing the Pro out of the water here. I think the better question to ask is whether this will be a regular occurrence from now on or just an exception. After all, Microsoft does have the marketing deal for Shadow of War so in some ways this isn't exactly a shocker.
Peterthumpa
Member
Good analysis, not that it matters much in this case though, this game is ugly as sin, just like the first one.
Indeed, so much noise for such an ugly looking game.
I think both machines make a huge difference if youre using a 4K TV.
Youre posting on an enthusiast forum - do you really think most of us are that concerned with an extra $150 for a noticeable improvement?
If youre using a 1080p TV the Pro wont do much for you, though.
XOX, however, is a huge leap for everyone as the regular XO doesnt even hit 1080p in many games. So 4K and 1080p users alike will benefit.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
It almost looks like a console that cost $100 more and that received an extra year of R&D is more powerful than a much older cheaper HW by a factor that is greater than how much a console coming out at the same time as another one was three years prior (price difference moot as the extra $100 was mostly Kinect). I am shocked!
Seriously though, I am glad the extra RAM and GPU power is well used. It is the fastest console and the one with the highest raw specs overall...but again that was kind of expected, an extra year is still a huge from a semiconductor evolution point of view (and they are aiming at a higher retail price they are mostly investing in silicon). Good on them anyways
, but lets not act as if they are somehow surprising anyone .MosquitoSmasher
Member
Hey man, I noticed something in the video and others pointed it out as well. At one point you rotate the camera on the Xbox and also on PS4. It's smooth as butter on the PS4 part and very juddery on Xbox. PS4 looks like 60fps there which we know isn't. Is this something with how the video was captured? Since I didn't hear DF mention it at all.
Oh, perhaps I made it look that I am actually serious with my post.
I know there is a specific audience for both machines and I am well aware of all the benefits, especially when it comes to the X and games not explicitly patched for the X.
Couldnt there have been a mode that went for 60fps with modest graphical quality though? It would have been the mode I picked if it existed. I wont have a 4K television for a few more months.
Why do people always throw $500 around as though the PS4 Pro would be comparatively free? It's a $100 price delta. $500 gets you the entire console from nothing.
There's definitely nothing wrong with the capture. Maybe there is slowdown there on Xbox One X?
MosquitoSmasher
Member
But for the people like me and others that sit quite close to their TVs(although 3 meters isn't that close) 65 inch TV it very likely will be noticeable and I do believe that the One X is meant for the true enthusiast that doesn't mind forking out 499 for it.
Hmm yeah, in that case it's likely something they need to iron out still. Really doubt it stays like that. And in the rest of the footage we don't see it anymore.
Alpha Phoenix
Member
If everyone interpreted it that way, we wouldn't have nearly 20 pages. But that's the fun part of it.
I can't say I didn't expect it. That said, actually seeing the difference is another story, regardless of expectations.
DF threads are about to be Great Again.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Yeah, I look forward for the side that was what upon before by opposite soldiers to shift to doing the actual shitting only to be one upped by even more elitist people comparing a modular platform with completely different thermal limitations and with specs that vary on the amount of money you pour into it with two fixed platforms.
:/...
Of course nobody will buy the X for SoW and the respective upgrades alone.
Bits N Pieces
Member
It's alright mate, its going to be alright.
It could be because dynamic resolution is always switched on with the pro version, later they show the differences with and without.
Bits N Pieces
Member
I look forward to your posts in DF threads moving forward, lol.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Yeah. I have a Pro, and I'm still on the fence about the XB1X just because I don't see much in the library that I can't simply play on my stronger PC regardless, but just from the specs, the XB1X simply has more grunt. I'd be shocked if the Pro was matching it step for step.
Yeah, its a fun read.