I'm glad it's back to. It's the only site I visit daily. Was looking at eurogamer and noticed an article about gran turismo being uk number 1 and instantly thought of the pal thread. I wanted to know how much it may have sold and so on but there isn't a site with all this information in one place that I can find easily.
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Despite all the crap going on I still love this place as a gaming community
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EchoChamber
Member
I have been on this site from 2013 and can't believe the part I always loved the off topic forum is dead now.
And it seems since it died everybody is using SJW and blaming the Left again.
This is so sad
And it seems since it died everybody is using SJW and blaming the Left again.
This is so sad
Nah, I'm sincere. I just want an oasis where i dont have to think about bad things or something along those lines. Love games, love gaming. I like to game.
So you weren't here to see how it was before the infection then.
jellies_two
Member
I agree with the sentiments here.
No matter what happened or happens, the community was not rotten and the arguments from people outside who were previously banned, often for being assholes, don't make any sense to me.
It feels like revenge of the sanctimonious previously banned: everyone with a grudge is jumping in pretending there was always something wrong with the community itself.
They offer no sensible argument for their sweeping statements instead referring to "people banned just for saying they hate something" or "opinions should be protected as they are free speech" or the "hive mind".
Gaf was not perfect but there isn't a better community outside at anything approaching the same size.
The site makes a lot of enemies by being hard to join and banning people without giving second chances, and some of those people instead of looking at their own actions, wait for some opportunity to get even because getting a new account to become a resident troll isn't easy, Now is their opportunity.
I hope that there is always a large active gaming forum here or online elsewhere that continues to moderate exactly as gaf has always moderated. Because it is the key. Reddit, twitter, Facebook etc let alone "voat" do not have the key, (unless the key is to allow awful people to dominate discussions and scare away intelligence). Long live gaf style moderation, whether it is here or on a new domain.
No matter what happened or happens, the community was not rotten and the arguments from people outside who were previously banned, often for being assholes, don't make any sense to me.
It feels like revenge of the sanctimonious previously banned: everyone with a grudge is jumping in pretending there was always something wrong with the community itself.
They offer no sensible argument for their sweeping statements instead referring to "people banned just for saying they hate something" or "opinions should be protected as they are free speech" or the "hive mind".
Gaf was not perfect but there isn't a better community outside at anything approaching the same size.
The site makes a lot of enemies by being hard to join and banning people without giving second chances, and some of those people instead of looking at their own actions, wait for some opportunity to get even because getting a new account to become a resident troll isn't easy, Now is their opportunity.
I hope that there is always a large active gaming forum here or online elsewhere that continues to moderate exactly as gaf has always moderated. Because it is the key. Reddit, twitter, Facebook etc let alone "voat" do not have the key, (unless the key is to allow awful people to dominate discussions and scare away intelligence). Long live gaf style moderation, whether it is here or on a new domain.
Rushersauce
Banned
I'll keep the account, but I'll move on as soon as the other site is up.
Can anyone invite me to GafDiscord? To be up to date please.
PMs will be appreciated.
Can anyone invite me to GafDiscord? To be up to date please.
PMs will be appreciated.
ginger ninja
Banned
I am getting PM's for discord and I am getting through them one by one since one reply every 10 min. I will reply every PM, promise.
MindCollizion
Member
Man what happened to this place. Everyone asking to be banned, statements, just pure chaos... I hope the allegations aren't true and that this site can recover from the disaster. It has been the only forum I frequent after I left GameFAQS.
Luckily if people are keen on shitting up the site they cannot spam with new accounts very easily, so it will die down.
KojiKnight
Member
For better or worse it has already significantly died down and likely will continue to over the week or so.
It's all about the long term fallout.
Welcome back Rins. Hope you stay, you're good people.
NESpowerhouse
Perhaps he's wondering why someone would shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane.
Now we play the waiting game.
All things aside, I can't even imagine having all of this stuff lost: all of the OTs, useful game tips, conversations, developement information, custom soundtracks like G.A.M.E, post your setup threads, pick up posts, etc.
All of that was one of a kind and is unlikely to be replaced anytime soon....
If the site doesn't make it, I at least hope everything is archived. Even if you hate it, this place is undeniably a big chunk of gaming history.
All of that was one of a kind and is unlikely to be replaced anytime soon....
If the site doesn't make it, I at least hope everything is archived. Even if you hate it, this place is undeniably a big chunk of gaming history.
Discharger
Member
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lifeexpectancy
Member
I sure hope all the account suiciders saying posting on GAF is akin to sympathizing with sexual assaulters practice what they preach, aka:
1. NEVER purchase, watch, stream, or otherwise consume any movies or TV shows written, produced, directed, or otherwise handled by ANY writer/director/producer/actor accused of sexual misconduct.
2. NEVER purchase, watch, stream, or otherwise consume any content related to college or professional sports (due to numerous claims or sexual misconduct so pervasive that it is unlikely any team or program is entirely innocent).
3. NEVER puurchase products from, or interact with any company who has an owner with allegations of any sort of misconduct (that would be a LOT of major companies globally).
Those three are off the top of my head. There are far more.
I am not condoning sexual misconduct. If this site's owner did indeed do something that requires apologies and recompense to be made to any victim(s) then that definitely needs to happen. But acting like you are taking some moral high ground leaving GAF, while you are most likely going to consume media TODAY that is in some shape or form tainted by the hands of at LEAST one person involved in its creation not being squeaky clean....
Well, you are hypocrites.
This site is more than its owner. The community here needs to improve. We all do. The entire human race is a cesspool of shit a lot of the time. And we need to strive to evolve into something better. But this moral high ground is so shallow it is transparent, a thin veneer.
1. NEVER purchase, watch, stream, or otherwise consume any movies or TV shows written, produced, directed, or otherwise handled by ANY writer/director/producer/actor accused of sexual misconduct.
2. NEVER purchase, watch, stream, or otherwise consume any content related to college or professional sports (due to numerous claims or sexual misconduct so pervasive that it is unlikely any team or program is entirely innocent).
3. NEVER puurchase products from, or interact with any company who has an owner with allegations of any sort of misconduct (that would be a LOT of major companies globally).
Those three are off the top of my head. There are far more.
I am not condoning sexual misconduct. If this site's owner did indeed do something that requires apologies and recompense to be made to any victim(s) then that definitely needs to happen. But acting like you are taking some moral high ground leaving GAF, while you are most likely going to consume media TODAY that is in some shape or form tainted by the hands of at LEAST one person involved in its creation not being squeaky clean....
Well, you are hypocrites.
This site is more than its owner. The community here needs to improve. We all do. The entire human race is a cesspool of shit a lot of the time. And we need to strive to evolve into something better. But this moral high ground is so shallow it is transparent, a thin veneer.
jellies_two
Member
The pleas by some people that other people MUST leave the site sound increasingly shrill. I Imagine they are trying to ddos or find any other angle as well.
For me at least I don't like being told what I should be doing. Especially by so many Junior members.
Here is an idea: if you want to quit, quit. If you take time from your day to preach or dramatically suicide, it just sounds insincere.
For me at least I don't like being told what I should be doing. Especially by so many Junior members.
Here is an idea: if you want to quit, quit. If you take time from your day to preach or dramatically suicide, it just sounds insincere.
I have no place else to be. When the forum went down the worst elements of gaming, hordes of gators and white supremacists, emerged out of every nook and cranny of the internet to dance on our grave. It made me realize what a treasure gaf really is. I just hope things can go back to normal eventually.
All the other gaming forums I've been too are either really shallow or full of trolls. This place is far from perfect, but it had standards. I don't think there's anything else like that out there.
I don't even care about Evilore. This site was never about him tbh. I can understand not wanting to support him if he did what he did, but the community shouldn't be broken.
I don't even care about Evilore. This site was never about him tbh. I can understand not wanting to support him if he did what he did, but the community shouldn't be broken.
That's the point. It was simple. I don't think there are many of those out there. The layouts on most of the others I've been to are insanely convoluted.
As a gaming forum, it's literally just a gaming forum.
Omnii-chan
Member
I also spent the last few days on IGN, Gamespot, Kotaku. Awful. Do you like your articles a day behind? Do you only want to know the biggest stories?
JayBabay
Member
Whoever looked at other Gaming forums after this closed down, just to find a place to have meaningful discussion, would quickly realize that nothing compares to this place. Because it took up so much of my browsing time, you really begin to take for granted how nice it's been to have a well moderated place to discuss games.
I can't believe that people threw out places like 4chan for video game discussion. Besides how disorganized and unfocused the discussions were, it was filled to the absolute brim with trolls. I can't believe people would dare make the comparison that this place would ever become a sliver of what that is. It would close down if it got to 1% of the junk you find elsewhere.
I can't believe that people threw out places like 4chan for video game discussion. Besides how disorganized and unfocused the discussions were, it was filled to the absolute brim with trolls. I can't believe people would dare make the comparison that this place would ever become a sliver of what that is. It would close down if it got to 1% of the junk you find elsewhere.
People are getting clipped at an impressive rate. Give it a week.
Freeza Under The Shower
Member
Unfortunately, that's not actually true. When you consume a product by an otherwise reprehensible person, they don't get to tell how to feel about it or in what terms to express it. Neogaf's moderation rules have been irregular at times for no apparent reason other than it suiting the owner at that time. The good ones were great, but the lack of 'receipts' and otherwise lack of being able to even discuss odd behavior by said individual are were things get weird.
You can consume the product, talk about certain aspects of it, and then proceed to completely destroy its creators. You can't do that on a message board, if it is not permitted.
There is a difference between watching a product by a known offender (of something) after it's been revealed and the person having been shamed for it, and being an accomplice to a cover-up for what you know is wrong, with the offender being convinced he doesn't have to change a damn thing. That's the reason the mods bailed, all of them, as far as we know.
And the lack of acknowledgement, the burned brand, and the good people already having moved, is why a lot of us are moving too. If you can live with being a willing accomplice, that's up to you.
Yes I'm sure you all knit your own clothes and harvest your own food and 80 percent of all of your income goes straight to charity and you never actually liked any of those polanski movies.
Unspoken90
Member
I would also like a discord invite.
Jack The Nipper
Banned
New member count is increasing
KojiKnight
Member
Banned accounts don't get removed, and they are always adding more users when they get approved (and approval can take weeks or even months, so this really doesn't say anything)
I disagree entirely. I found the moderation in the site to be nonexistant, with them only stepping in when things would get really derailed in some threads. Otherwise they all signed into modbot and would just close threads. The site is very self policing, though that can be seen as good and bad. I could've gone my entire time here not ever knowing who Evilore even is, and I still don't give a shit. Step down, don't step down, I don't care, no other site even compares to this place as a aggregate. Where was I supposed to go for my anime/manga discussion that's not filled with giant avatars and signatures and funny colours? I honestly don't even know where I would go to discuss video games, the main sites like IGN and...I don't know of any others are cesspools(and thats putting it lightly). The sheer volume of users here meant there was always someone to talk to about something. Unless this site truly disappears within the next few weeks in terms of the community I love, I'm sticking around because I don't care what the invisible server owner was accused of doing. This is a totally different medium compared to something like a director that is a rapist or something and watching his movie after the fact. Yea man I'm totally an accomplice ROFL call the cops dude I'm sure they'll love to nab me.
The Mods didn't have to bail, what did they even do here outside of using a group Mod account? Suddenly they had the site going rouge on them and I wouldn't want to deal with that either. The less this place is a hugbox the better, back to videogames I say. This is site is so far more than it's owner, Evilore could've disappeared years ago and no one would have noticed.
I agree with the politics, but it really bothers me when people go to an insane degree to police them. Guess what, most of those movies/tv shows you go to watch are filled with terrible people that profit off of them.
At the end of the day you have to look at the big picture. I think keeping this forum alive and the community together outweighs any of the bad.
SkullHydra
Member
I'm so glad GAF is back. I looked into some alternatives, but none of them had what I want from a site like GAF does. Even when it was down, I habitually clicked the GAF link every time I pulled up my phone.
I'd like an invite to the Discord as well. I felt isolated when I couldn't get on GAF to find out what was happening to GAF. Lol.
I'd like an invite to the Discord as well. I felt isolated when I couldn't get on GAF to find out what was happening to GAF. Lol.
daninthemix
Member
So do I, I always have. I don't care whether we have an OT forum or not, just happy to have a place to talk games with folk.
Tell me about it.
For many years it was at least one tab open at all times. Auto refresh on and just following the discussion.
Happy for it to be here for us again to just talk games, man.
Jack The Nipper
Banned
Just go ahead and ban this guy and anyone being here to try and remove people. If they want they will find thier way out.