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Applying for jobs is exhausting and soul-crushing

Seeing this thread I remember something that happened to me maaany years ago. During an interview I was asked what was the worst aspect of my personality. I answered that I was a pessimistic person. He immediately replied "well, we are looking for an optimistic person. We need that kind of attitude in this company."

Obviously I thought I blew it, two days later I get a phone call saying I was hired. Wut.
 

entremet

Member
Do the numbers. With a car in NYC you will be paying insurance, upkeep, and a possible car payment, unless you buy in cash. Along with Quality of Life issues of parking, unless you have a guaranteed parking space.

Is it worth it in pay? Or will the new salary be eaten up with car expenses? Do you get gas reimbursement?

Moreover, what's your endgame? Are you at a crappy job right and this is a good opportunity? Or it is just something to get out of your current, yet unsatisfying role?

35k and room for growth. Not sure about gas reimbursement.
Yeah, get that info. 35k seems rough for in NYC for car expenses.

But I’m guessing it’s an improvement in pay if you’re considering it?

Based on the salary, I’m guessing your young. I’d focus on finding gigs where your learning on the job is would be a huge benefit. But 35k and getting a huge expense like a car doesn’t seem worth it.
 

Bluemongoose

Neo Member
Yeah, get that info. 35k seems rough for in NYC for car expenses.

But I’m guessing it’s an improvement in pay if you’re considering it?

Based on the salary, I’m guessing your young. I’d focus on finding gigs where your learning on the job is would be a huge benefit. But 35k and getting a huge expense like a car doesn’t seem worth it.

I'm 38.
 
Have an interview for an internship next Tuesday, and another potential interview for a full-time position from the same manager depending on how I'll perform on the first interview. It's the same company I interned at, just at a different subsidiary. Really hope I can ace this!

Also, and I'm not sure if this is okay, but if anyone here's looking for any tech-related jobs around the Atlanta area, check out this Slack group! Most of the postings are development roles, but occasionally you'll find some UI/UX and Analyst positions. You can make some great connections there too; I managed to connect with some who work at Turner and The Home Depot.
 

Slo

Member
What are the collective thoughts on group interviews?

Honestly, I see them happening more at more "cutting edge-wannabe" companies who think they are being unique, but I'm not a fan.

You don't really get a chance to shine, and build a 1-1 connection.

I have one tomorrow for a job, that I honestly don't see why they are doing a group interview for the position. It's for a Quality Control Data Entry Clerk, and they are seeming to have like 10 people in one big group setting for this.

They make sense in some cases, like hiring for more Senior Dev positions where you're expected to be able to collaborate with a team, provide ideas and defend them in a group setting.

Often socially awkward people tend to gravitate to STEM jobs, but even in those fields you're expected to have decent soft skills.
 

Two Words

Member
I had a full stack web development internship this past summer and I will be interning with the same company again next summer, but likely in a different software development role. They gave me a return internship offer since I am staying an extra year for grad school. At this point, as long as I don't screw up anything and continue to contribute as I have been, I should expect a full time offer at the end of all this right?

I don't want to be like this though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc_RSBMFT7g
 

entremet

Member
If you see a real opportunity for learning and advancement and it fits your budget, it could pay off.

I have no idea what type of job you’re looking at, but you can probably get a job in tech support making 50k in the city. No need for a car and good room for advancement. Dealing with customers can be a pain, but it’s a great way to get into the world of better paying corporate gigs.
 

Sorithin

Member
Had a phone interview today with another company. Made a big mistake when they asked for salary request. They had listed on their job description a range of what the job paid (the lowest was still higher than I make now), so when he asked what kind of salary I'm looking for, I said the lowest. Now I regret it and should've said something in the middle of the range. Do you think if I get an offer, I could negotiate for the middle range even though I gave the low range? I feel like a lot of people negotiate salaries when they get an offer, but they're usually not asked about salary requirements during an interview, I think.
 

haimon

Member
So I was part of a downsizing move in my company and ended up getting 2 months notice due to lots of holidays here.

I interviewed for a testing job which was what I did but moved to product management...

I already signed the contract but there is another place that I have a shot with and am hoping to here they are offering me a contract next week.

Pay might be a bit lower but it's a step for a much better carreer.

As long as you don't break contratcs like that too often I will not fuck my career right?
 

dskillzhtown

keep your strippers out of my American football
Had a phone interview today with another company. Made a big mistake when they asked for salary request. They had listed on their job description a range of what the job paid (the lowest was still higher than I make now), so when he asked what kind of salary I'm looking for, I said the lowest. Now I regret it and should've said something in the middle of the range. Do you think if I get an offer, I could negotiate for the middle range even though I gave the low range? I feel like a lot of people negotiate salaries when they get an offer, but they're usually not asked about salary requirements during an interview, I think.

Yeah, you can try to negotiate the middle range. I don't see how it can hurt. Buy let's not even think about that until you get an offer.
 

Socivol

Member
Well after going through the final round of the interview process I got an email asking how I felt and if I would like to move forward and to provide references! I got really excited but after I provided my references THEY ADDED ANOTHER INTERVIEW. It's a digital interview and was told this was informal (yeah right!). I've had TWO recorded digital interviews already so if the person they want me to meet with wanted to see them they already have links to them. Additionally, my references haven't been contacted so it seems an offer hinges on this interview which means it is NOT informal.

I'm pretty pissed off about this. My contact has been the VP of HR this whole time and I asked what the process was and she told me more than once that the in-person interview was the final steps. I had previously looked at this company on Glassdoor and EVERYONE has said the in-person interview is the last step as well. It's really hard not to take this personally when I would be the first black person at the company and the company literally moves the goal post at the finish.

In addition to this, they forgot to tell me I needed to do a presentation at my in-person interview and I literally had to pull a rabbit out of a hat because I wasn't informed I needed to do it. I am really pissed off by the process getting extended to the point where I just want to say fuck it. It makes no sense why they would ask if I wanted to move forward and for references and 20 minutes later all of a sudden have an additional interview in the process if that was standard.
 

solomon

Member
I'm handing in my letter of resignation on the 30th, I'm nervous AF, but the truth is I can't deal with my current job anymore and in general over Miami's shitty job market.
 

Cappa

Banned
wasnt this thread for a long time about finding websites that paid you for working from home lol

I could be confused with another thread IDK. The process of finding a new job sucks, especially if you arent currently employed
 

dskillzhtown

keep your strippers out of my American football
So I was part of a downsizing move in my company and ended up getting 2 months notice due to lots of holidays here.

I interviewed for a testing job which was what I did but moved to product management...

I already signed the contract but there is another place that I have a shot with and am hoping to here they are offering me a contract next week.

Pay might be a bit lower but it's a step for a much better carreer.

As long as you don't break contratcs like that too often I will not fuck my career right?

So it is a contracting/temp role that you accepted? If that is the case, you can leave at anytime in my experience. You have to think about your career, not just a contract job. If the other opportunity is better in the long term you have to take it.
 

dskillzhtown

keep your strippers out of my American football
wasnt this thread for a long time about finding websites that paid you for working from home lol

I could be confused with another thread IDK. The process of finding a new job sucks, especially if you arent currently employed

That was another thread. Probably alot of the same posters in both though.
 

haimon

Member
So it is a contracting/temp role that you accepted? If that is the case, you can leave at anytime in my experience. You have to think about your career, not just a contract job. If the other opportunity is better in the long term you have to take it.
Both are full time positions in the different companies.
 
Anyone have any advice on writing an objective statement?

It's required for a position I'm applying for and I'm not sure if I should go with something general like "I want to further my career in X field" or if I should be getting into specifics.
 
I'm handing in my letter of resignation on the 30th, I'm nervous AF, but the truth is I can't deal with my current job anymore and in general over Miami's shitty job market.
I'm starting to not like my job anymore and that's probably something I'd have to do eventually. I'm really not looking forward to that at all.
 

Ten_Fold

Member
I really wanna quit this temp agency factory job, been here 6 months an feel so degrading I think Ive had enough, its hard enough to balance work an school, heck I havent had a day off since the beginning of this month they pretty much want us temps to work every single day unless its a holiday. Ive been looking for a low level call center or even help desk job but no luck, all I see are either manufacturing work, or retail. Its getting to be very overwhelming I have enough for next months rent an bills but still... I guess I need to start putting more apps in per day.
 

entremet

Member
I'm handing in my letter of resignation on the 30th, I'm nervous AF, but the truth is I can't deal with my current job anymore and in general over Miami's shitty job market.

I was thinking of moving to Miami ages ago but heard the job market and pay suck. Is that true?
 

Bluemongoose

Neo Member
I'm handing in my letter of resignation on the 30th, I'm nervous AF, but the truth is I can't deal with my current job anymore and in general over Miami's shitty job market.

I wish you luck. Where will you move? If I ever decided to leave New York I would definitely do Los Angeles or Seattle. I think this city hates me sometimes.
 

Bluemongoose

Neo Member
If you see a real opportunity for learning and advancement and it fits your budget, it could pay off.

I have no idea what type of job you’re looking at, but you can probably get a job in tech support making 50k in the city. No need for a car and good room for advancement. Dealing with customers can be a pain, but it’s a great way to get into the world of better paying corporate gigs.

I don't know about IT or programming. I'm an artsy fartsy liberal arts major (Journalism).
 
Got scouted by a headhunter for a job, went though several rounds of interviews, All positive feedback.

Got the call yesterday that I didn't get it. Apparently the headhunter and the employer couldn't work something out, and the employer walked away.

I got the strong impression that if I had somehow found the job direct, i'd have gotten it. I went ahead and re-applied directly, but i'm not even sure they would look at it.

Oh well, back to the hunt I suppose.
 

Voror

Member
You don’t need to know that stuff.

I’m not talking about IT but customer support for software companies. They train you.

I can second this. I was a Radio/TV major and the job I was working until recently (and what I'm looking for now) was in software support. They train you in how it works and how to deal with clients and such.
 

Sage00

Once And Future Member
After leaving my post-university job too early in the UK (1 year) to come to Japan and teaching English at night until 9:30pm and weekends all day while going to language school Mon-Fri (no days off) for 2 years, I finally started a job at a financial institution this week..

For a year and a half I was taking interviews and being told ‘sorry, not enough experience’ or ‘we had a stronger candidate’. I didn’t even get a data entry job I interviewed for (the other candidate spoke Italian and it might be helpful was their feedback..).

Even with this offer I got, there was over a month gap between the first interview and the second (had already written it off), then another few weeks before the final one. I remember my family angrily told me I was crazy and that I should work for 3-5 years then consider moving here.

I thought for so long it was hopeless and I’d have to go back home. When you’re at the mercy of companies like that, waiting is hell. I looked at my phone every few hours every day, disappointed when inevitably no email came but thinking ‘Surely, tomorrow.’

Not sure why I’m even writing this, but hopefully it helps someone in a similar situation. Don’t be afraid to take a gamble like moving to another country if you really want to do it while you’re young. It can be an easy or long road depending on your luck, but with perseverance there’s a chance. I set myself a goal of getting a job I wanted in under 2 years. It took 2 years and 10 months.
 

Socivol

Member
Just to update those at are still here, after a year of searching I've landed a new job. I actually quit my old job without a job at the beginning of the month because I just couldn't take it anymore. I didn't get exactly the amount that I asked for but it's a 15k raise over what I was making and my new job is remote.

It really felt like it was never going to happen but I'm glad I can finally officially move on from the shitty situation I was in into one that I think will be a better fit for me.
 

Flux

Member
Just to update those at are still here, after a year of searching I've landed a new job. I actually quit my old job without a job at the beginning of the month because I just couldn't take it anymore. I didn't get exactly the amount that I asked for but it's a 15k raise over what I was making and my new job is remote.

It really felt like it was never going to happen but I'm glad I can finally officially move on from the shitty situation I was in into one that I think will be a better fit for me.

Congratulations. Hope it works out better for you.

I'm glad this thread is back. It meant a lot to me when I was unemployed, and I think it's a great supportive group.
 
I got frustrated with my job and applied out to a corporation that I previously worked for. This is a senior software engineering role. They offered me 5% more than I make at this small consulting company after bonus. Its a 20 minute commute to the burbs, while I ride the bus for 20 minutes now or drive 2 miles to the city.

I tried to negotiate, but they are sticking with their offer. I like the location and culture of my company, its just a consulting company, the project sucks, i'm not learning much, and they work us hard when deadlines are due.

The corporate job doubled my salary in 4 years prior to leaving, is still growing, has opportunities for advancement, I would just leave the city, have to commute, work in a corporate job, and leave the perks here (soda/snacks/beer/phone/internet/gym/MLB tickets/concert tickets). I love the people and culture here, but a ton of people are leaving and the project seems to be drying up.

I talked with management and they are working to get me on another project, but there are only a few in the company with a few ending and no new ones starting. I'm really torn on what to do.
 

Socivol

Member
I got frustrated with my job and applied out to a corporation that I previously worked for. This is a senior software engineering role. They offered me 5% more than I make at this small consulting company after bonus. Its a 20 minute commute to the burbs, while I ride the bus for 20 minutes now or drive 2 miles to the city.

I tried to negotiate, but they are sticking with their offer. I like the location and culture of my company, its just a consulting company, the project sucks, i'm not learning much, and they work us hard when deadlines are due.

The corporate job doubled my salary in 4 years prior to leaving, is still growing, has opportunities for advancement, I would just leave the city, have to commute, work in a corporate job, and leave the perks here (soda/snacks/beer/phone/internet/gym/MLB tickets/concert tickets). I love the people and culture here, but a ton of people are leaving and the project seems to be drying up.

I talked with management and they are working to get me on another project, but there are only a few in the company with a few ending and no new ones starting. I'm really torn on what to do.

I would prioritize the growth. It seems from what you've said you would be fine leaving the company but you would miss the culture. If culture is a sticking point for you, then you might want to stay. If you want a more secure job where you can grow in your profession, I would probably take the corporate one.
 
I would prioritize the growth. It seems from what you've said you would be fine leaving the company but you would miss the culture. If culture is a sticking point for you, then you might want to stay. If you want a more secure job where you can grow in your profession, I would probably take the corporate one.

Thanks, I've gone back and forth on this for days and I can't make up my mind. I need to have a decision today. If i take this job i'm going to have to purchase a vehicle and start driving to work.
 

Ten_Fold

Member
I thought things was looking up for me, but I guess not, lost my temp factory job today glad I got enough to covee rent next month but still gonna struggle, I thought I was gonna get this office job for data entry but I guess not either. Sigh the only other job I have left on my list is a resturant with a friend which pays about 12 an hour but I'm not really a fan of resturant work I just can't seem to find even help desk jobs in MI my only hope might be to take this resturant work an learn how to code on my days off at least 3 or 4 hours seems thats my only hope of making a living Im really depressed.
 

Cj01

Member
I need some help here.I lost my job about 2 weeks ago. I applied at my wife's job 4 financial analyst position. I got a call the next day letting me know that the position only pays up to 50,000 a year. This was 5000 less than my ask on the application. I asked to know some of the benefits since that would help my decision. The next morning she sent me the benefits to look over and I said that the 50,000 would be okay.

She scheduled me a phone interview with herself after the phone interview she said she would be in touch. My wife had sign me up for open house at her job so I went. While I was there I met the chief operating officer he mentioned to me that he knew my wife and that she was a hard worker he asked a little bit about what I did. We had a conversation for about 30 minutes and he said that I should apply I let him know that I already applied and what had already happened. He he gave me his card and asked me to email him my resume.

I emailed him my resume and the next day the same lady from HR called me and said that they had a second position which was similar tjat
they thought I would be good for that was suggested by the chief operating officer. She sent me up for a interview with both managers and director which was last Friday. To me seemed to go well

God willing if I get made an offer for that second position at 50000 should I inquire about more since it seems to be a different position and based on what my wife says it's one position up from the financial analyst position
 
I thought things was looking up for me, but I guess not, lost my temp factory job today glad I got enough to covee rent next month but still gonna struggle, I thought I was gonna get this office job for data entry but I guess not either. Sigh the only other job I have left on my list is a resturant with a friend which pays about 12 an hour but I'm not really a fan of resturant work I just can't seem to find even help desk jobs in MI my only hope might be to take this resturant work an learn how to code on my days off at least 3 or 4 hours seems thats my only hope of making a living Im really depressed.

Why not move back to your parents?
 

Ten_Fold

Member
Why not move back to your parents?
Unfortunately my mother moved to a smaller house an no room for me, and my S/O's family don't want her back, but good news I got 3 interviews this week, one job I know for sure pays well enough that I can live off which is an office job an I'm going to my final interview for that, the other 2 are just seasonal work. Job market is tough without alot of skills seems its either grind a low paying job to the top or learn a real skill.
 

Flux

Member
So I've decided to go back on a full job search press. My current job has just been too stressful and I am tired of taking abuse from management. The hours have taken away almost all of my leisure time and I've had to regularly give up weekends.

I don't think I'll quit, but I've given up on any future here. I just need an income to keep afloat.
 

dskillzhtown

keep your strippers out of my American football
I need some help here.I lost my job about 2 weeks ago. I applied at my wife's job 4 financial analyst position. I got a call the next day letting me know that the position only pays up to 50,000 a year. This was 5000 less than my ask on the application. I asked to know some of the benefits since that would help my decision. The next morning she sent me the benefits to look over and I said that the 50,000 would be okay.

She scheduled me a phone interview with herself after the phone interview she said she would be in touch. My wife had sign me up for open house at her job so I went. While I was there I met the chief operating officer he mentioned to me that he knew my wife and that she was a hard worker he asked a little bit about what I did. We had a conversation for about 30 minutes and he said that I should apply I let him know that I already applied and what had already happened. He he gave me his card and asked me to email him my resume.

I emailed him my resume and the next day the same lady from HR called me and said that they had a second position which was similar tjat
they thought I would be good for that was suggested by the chief operating officer. She sent me up for a interview with both managers and director which was last Friday. To me seemed to go well

God willing if I get made an offer for that second position at 50000 should I inquire about more since it seems to be a different position and based on what my wife says it's one position up from the financial analyst position


I would ask upfront about the compensation for the 2nd position. It is only natural for people to ask what they are going to get paid.
 

entremet

Member
So I've decided to go back on a full job search press. My current job has just been too stressful and I am tired of taking abuse from management. The hours have taken away almost all of my leisure time and I've had to regularly give up weekends.

I don't think I'll quit, but I've given up on any future here. I just need an income to keep afloat.

Have a process. 2 applications per day. Really vet them and do custom cover letters. That will be around 14 applications per week if you include weekends. 56 quality applications per month. You'll find something. Trust me

All the while build up your recruiter contacts in LinkedIn, participate in groups, and so on.
 

tehfryguy

Member
So I've decided to go back on a full job search press. My current job has just been too stressful and I am tired of taking abuse from management. The hours have taken away almost all of my leisure time and I've had to regularly give up weekends.

I don't think I'll quit, but I've given up on any future here. I just need an income to keep afloat.

I was you last year. I sat my ass in front of the computer every day for hours customizing my resume for each job I applied for. I eventually got hired on and am way happier. Go into work knowing that you're getting closer to leaving if you put in the effort to find another spot.
 
And guys, don't always follow the money. I made a mistake of leaving a stable good job with average pay for a higher paid one in a shitty situation. i clashed with the boss and within a year and half I was gone.

After almost a year of searching. i swallowed my pride and took a part time job because i had bills. I only work about 30 hours a week, but I have more leisure time to work on the hobbies i love for now and the money is good enough to support myself.

eventually i want to return to full time, but not sure if i want to return to the 9-5 prison anytime soon since i don't have a family to support. I'm just loving life right now.
 

solomon

Member
I was thinking of moving to Miami ages ago but heard the job market and pay suck. Is that true?

It depends, for some reason those coming from other cities have a better experience with salaries/getting better positions compared to us natives, But generally yes Miami's salaries are less compared to other cities, also room for growth is often small and people tend to plateau quick in what they can make at a company. I've been told multiple times to move out of Miami and eventually come back, having that out of city experience is beneficial because it gives you more room to negotiate.
 

Flux

Member
Have a process. 2 applications per day. Really vet them and do custom cover letters. That will be around 14 applications per week if you include weekends. 56 quality applications per month. You'll find something. Trust me

All the while build up your recruiter contacts in LinkedIn, participate in groups, and so on.

I was you last year. I sat my ass in front of the computer every day for hours customizing my resume for each job I applied for. I eventually got hired on and am way happier. Go into work knowing that you're getting closer to leaving if you put in the effort to find another spot.
Thanks to both of you. I appreciate the help and feedback. I sat down to write a good letter yesterday and it paid off with an invitation to an interview today for next week.

I'll continue the process, I know loyalty means zilch to big corporations anyways.
 

solomon

Member
I'm starting to not like my job anymore and that's probably something I'd have to do eventually. I'm really not looking forward to that at all.

I finally pulled the trigger, my boss is still a scum bag.

I wish you luck. Where will you move? If I ever decided to leave New York I would definitely do Los Angeles or Seattle. I think this city hates me sometimes.

Funny enough, I'm looking to move to NYC, I have some family in the city and my sister has a free room.
 

isual

Member
i have a full time job that pays mid 20s, and i go to school part time - 1 class that is 4 units.

i feel that i have so much more time so i applied for amazon seasonal job that pays 14.50. plus, i want a recent background check too.

i feel that if you have time to play vidyagames, youn can do hw or other things.

i dont need a career. i need a job
 

Flux

Member
I had my first interview today at a consulting firm. The title was a bit misleading as they did not intend to recruit for the position they posted. But, after they explained what the role was, it was not bad at all. It pays above my current salary, has OT pay, and honestly just need a change in scenery for myself so I'm hoping the next round go well/get an invitation back.

The interviewer added me on LinkedIn. Could be a neutral or good sign.
 
I finally pulled the trigger, my boss is still a scum bag.



Funny enough, I'm looking to move to NYC, I have some family in the city and my sister has a free room.

Did you "put in two weeks" or just didn't show up?

I had my first interview today at a consulting firm. The title was a bit misleading as they did not intend to recruit for the position they posted. But, after they explained what the role was, it was not bad at all. It pays above my current salary, has OT pay, and honestly just need a change in scenery for myself so I'm hoping the next round go well/get an invitation back.

The interviewer added me on LinkedIn. Could be a neutral or good sign.

Good luck.
 

Basketball

Member
when you bomb the interview completely

but still get the job

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