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Let us embrace our digital-only future!
If a game has been delisted from Steam it'll take me five minutes tops to find another way to get it without paying a cent. Can you say the same for consoles?
Pc isn’t better . Can you buy driver San Francisco on pc ? No unless cracked which is not right
Yeah, but using custom firmware/hardware mods to play pirated games on consoles is tied to a number of risks and potential tradeoffs that don't exist on PC. Sony makes the hardware, the OS, owns the network infrastructure and runs the only allowed storefront. By using custom firmware or modding your console to run pirated games you risk getting locked out and losing access to features not just in the game in question, but across other games you own. Sure, it might not be as much of a concern on a dead platform like the Vita, but games can get delisted for current consoles, too.
Within 2 seconds of reading your post, you can download from ubisoft or from gamestop, which were the first 2 results on a simple Google search. What were you saying again?
With Steam there's also curated lists of games that will/might be removed from Steam, with dates if known and/or reasons.
That will affect everyone at some point. Same with music from gtaiv, etc. Point is, on PC, you can restore everything or still have access to it. From several decades, unlike some consoles that can't play games from not even 1 or 2 decades ago.
This is hardly a digital-only problem though. Physical games also stop being produced at some point, and existing stock is limited.Let us embrace our digital-only future!
Can you at least do your search properly ? Go ahead and link me where you can buy it ( and not a mark up price because it’s no longer available )
Sure. Did the exact same search, and the 2nd result is right here. 19.99. you said it's unavailable, which is obviously wrong. Then you add in the mark up price (switching goal posts), but here it is. On pc, available for purchase as of the time of this post.
Even physical games disappear eventually too, its not like they keep getting produced forever or that the stock of used games is infinite (not even considering the price some might go for here).
Not even remotely the same. With physical you always have the option to buy used.
As i said, there isn't an unlimited supply of used games.
It's much better than the completely zero of digital games is it not?
Not as convenient as the infinite supply of copies you could find on abandonware sites.
I don't advocate piracy sorry.
Sure. Did the exact same search, and the 2nd result is right here. 19.99. you said it's unavailable, which is obviously wrong. Then you add in the mark up price (switching goal posts), but here it is. On pc, available for purchase as of the time of this post.
"Driver: San Francisco | PC | GameStop" https://www.gamestop.com/video-games/pc/games/products/driver-san-francisco/10078176.html
Many publishers don't advocate for the market of used copies either
Are you seriously comparing piracy with legitimately bought used copies? Do you also think that it's the same to steal a car than buying a used one?
I can still buy a key for Last Remnant for 20 bucks for a steam key. Dragon quest Xi is 31 bucks. Just because you can't buy it directly from steam store, doesn't mean you can't buy a key and download it from steam. Which is why I love PC platform. As you can always access content, without the problems that other platforms encounter.
Tell me then, for a discontinued game that isn't officially sold anywhere, who would lose what if i downloaded it from some abandonware site?
To the developer/publisher these are essentially the same. They don't see any money either way. In any case, what's the alternative if there are no ways to legitimately purchase a game?
Bad analogy. If someone steals a car, the original owner no longer has access to it. The same isn't true for software.
Not a bad analogy at all. Just like with the car when you pirate you're stealing money from the publisher. Buying a used game is not even remotely the same because:
How is publisher losing money on a game they're not even selling? Assuming the publisher still exists at all that is.
Most sure as hell don't want to. Many times in the past they'd go out of their way to physically stop resale of games with stuff like online activation or limited number of installs.
Not share games the way consoles do?
You can actually.
In the case of the car, who'd be the publisher? The manufacturer? Unless you're stealing straight from the factory parking lot they will have gotten their money already.
I think you're forgetting we're talking about games that can't be bought anywhere. If the publisher isn't selling a game, then they can't really shit on pirates for not buying it.
Don't know about other platforms, but Steam lets you share your library with up to five other people.
Delisting the game doesn't mean that they will not let the game become available again. So if you pirate it then they will loose money from a potential sale. So yes you're stealing. And in any case you were the one who compared used games with piracy.
Games are much cheaper, no online subscription, can share them with friends (contrary to your own personal beliefs), and I can play across several generations, all from the same piece of hardware.
Not playing the game at the same time.
If a publisher delists a game and makes no announcement they'll put it back up, you can be sure you won't be seeing it again for many many years, if ever.
They are not making any money from it dude, your previous logic simply doesn't hold. After all a single used game can still pass through 100 hands, which would mean 99 lost sales.
Didn't know you could use a single disc to play in two consoles at the same time.
Who was talking about physical media
Everyone. Its sorta one of the main point in this thread.Who was talking about physical media
Look at the thread title.
