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[Skifi28]

How much is the PS5 that will do native 4k 60

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

How much is the PS5 that will do native 4k 60

$599 coming in Nov

 

[Senua]

Thats awesome, I think you can get a used PS5 for about 150-200?

$599 coming in Nov

Oh god the Pro people are here already

 

[Fabieter]

According to DF, the PS5 version runs 1800p DRS using checkerboard and PC settings equivalent to "low" to get to 60 fps. Considering everything in the chart above is native, I'd say you are looking at a RTX 3070 to "beat" the PS5 specs. Think we can dispense with the bullshit take that you need a 4080 to do that.

No they don't. They compared the ps4 version as low to the ps5 Version as ultra. But I still think some parts will look slightly better on a 3070 but it will be mostly the same experience tho.

 

[Kacho]

The day before Dragon's Dogma 2 drops. Yeah, good luck with that lol

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Oh god the Pro people are here already

 

[Topher]

$599 coming in Nov

 

[Gaiff]

I see I see, how much is one of those then?

The 6800 which is usually faster than the 3070 can be had for $380. The 3070 is around $420-430 but with its 8GB, I'd steer clear of it.

Those cards are also generally 30-50% faster than the PS5. I'm also assuming there that the PS5 is running 1800p checkerboarded High Settings in Performance Mode. Whatever the case, 4080 is not the minimum required to beat a PS5...far from it, but you knew this already.

From their tech review of the game. Rereading it though, I'm not certain what they are calling low settings. Maybe they mean the PS4 Pro version.

He's talking about the last-gen version. He says this:

Meanwhile, for PS5, 30fps and 60fps also have the same features, with resolution and frame-rate targets dividing them. Some graphical effects may change in their rendering according to the core resolution, but ultimately, it's two tiers in total with two implementations per tier.

So, the main difference between the 30fps and 60fps mode is really the resolution. The visual settings don't change much.

 

[Senua]

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

 

[THE DUCK]

Really, a 3060 at 12tf can only run it at 1080p?

 

[SolidQ]

Really, a 3060 at 12tf can only run it at 1080p?

Interesting more, no Pascal/RX series. Seems like Alan Wake 2 "need" Mesh Shader

 

[Senua]

 

[The Cockatrice]

Thats awesome, I think you can get a used PS5 for about 150-200?


Sorry ill stop, went fishing and caught some whoppers, but you get my point.

Your PC can do a million times more things than your console you fucking muppet.

 

[Topher]

No they don't. They compared the ps4 version as low to the ps5 Version as ultra. But I still think some parts will look slightly better on a 3070 but it will be mostly the same experience tho.

Ok.....I clarified with Gaiff that I wasn't sure I was reading that right.

 

[Mephisto40]

I wonder which one of these categories the PS5 would land in

 

[Elysium44]

Really, a 3060 at 12tf can only run it at 1080p?

Yep this is the reality of PC ports most of the time. The base PS4 is similar to a 750 Ti and runs the game at 1080p30. The 3060 12GB is ~500% as powerful but apparently can only manage 1080p60 medium. It's silly.

 

[Topher]

Really, a 3060 at 12tf can only run it at 1080p?

You say 12tf like that is supposed to mean anything.

 

[GymWolf]

I hope this is not another fucking sony game on pc without a trace of better\reworked textures (other than being native 4k) like most (all?) of their ports.

 

[ArtHands]

Gonna have some PC exclusive features like ultra-wide support, DLSS3, FSR, DLAA, exclusive poses and face paint and more

Today we are excited to announce that the PC version of Horizon Forbidden West Complete Edition is now available for pre-purchase with bonus content, including:

• Blacktide Outfit and Blacktide Bow* (available only with pre-purchase)
• Nora Legacy Outfit and Nora Spear* (available only when linking your Steam account to PlayStation Network)
• 2 Special Outfits (Carja Behemoth Elite and Nora Thunder Elite)
• 2 Special Weapons (Carja Behemoth Short Bow and Nora Thunder Sling)
• In-game Resources Pack including ammunition, potions, and travel packs
• In-game Apex Clawstrider Machine Strike Piece
• Exclusive Photo Mode pose and face paint

Horizon Forbidden West Complete Edition on PC features unlocked frame rates, customizable graphics settings and a broad range of performance-enhancing technologies, including NVIDIA DLSS 3 upscaling and frame generation. AMD FSR and Intel XeSS are also supported. For players with high-end hardware and extra headroom, image-enhancing NVIDIA DLAA is also available. The game leverages DirectStorage for quick loading times on PC.

On your journey in the far-future post-apocalyptic world of Horizon, you will discover a variety of highly detailed environments, including lush forests, sunken cities, vast deserts and impressive mountain ranges. With ultra-wide support, you'll be able to take in the vistas in a panoramic view. Gameplay is supported in 21:9 ultra-wide, 32:9 super ultra-wide and even 48:9 resolutions with compatibility for triple-monitor setups.

 

[buenoblue]

Why is everyone so upset lol. Minimum and recommended specs are always to be taken with a grain of salt.

 

[Gaiff]

Why is everyone so upset lol. Minimum and recommended specs are always to be taken with a grain of salt.

Most of us aren't. It's the usual suspects who came in to shit the thread.

 

[Senua]

Yep this is the reality of PC ports most of the time. The base PS4 is similar to a 750 Ti and runs the game at 1080p30. The 3060 12GB is ~500% as powerful but apparently can only manage 1080p60 medium. It's silly.

I hope this is not another fucking sony game on pc without a trace of better\reworked textures (other than being native 4k) like most (all?) of their ports.

 

[Skifi28]

I hope this is not another fucking sony game on pc without a trace of better\reworked textures (other than being native 4k) like most (all?) of their ports.

Did the textures really need any improvement? Random cave somewhere you probably won't go aside, I remember being really impressed by texture resolution. Even if they improved them further, I don't know If one would be able to notice it.

 

[GymWolf]

Did the textures really need any improvement? Random cave somewhere you probably won't go aside, I remember being really impressed by texture resolution. Even if they improved them further, I don't know If one would be able to notice it.

Of course they need improvement, the game is full of shitty textures, like any other open world game.

Dude i consider hfw still the best looking game out there overall but i can still fill 100 pages of horrible texture pics, and quality textures are basically the first thing i care about when it comes to graphic.

You just don't care dude, but even in this forum we have a big topic in here for people woo care about this stuff.

 

[Elysium44]

What does that mean?

 

[Kokoloko85]

Lol at the comments.
PS guys have to try and dig something in even when theres nothing to win and PC guys cannot let anything offend the PC. What did you say!?1!

 

[Senua]

What does that mean?

 

[GymWolf]

Then i'm just gonna buy their port at a super cheap price because lazy ports don't deserve my money.

 

[Kokoloko85]

trash specs for a trash game

Sounds like you had fun, did you finish it?

 

[Skifi28]

Of course they need improvement, the game is full of shitty textures, like any other open world game.

Dude i consider hfw still the best looking game out there overall but i can still fill 100 pages of horrible texture pics, and quality textures are basically the first thing i care when it comes to graphic.

I'll have to boot it up again and take a quick look. I'm not particularly "allergic" to the occasional low quality texture, but I do tend to notice them. Still, I thought they looked rather consistent for an open world game. (not trying to discredit you.)

I wouldn't hold my breath for any upgrades though.

 

[Xdrive05]

Really, a 3060 at 12tf can only run it at 1080p?

3060 user here. I bet it will do 1080p60hz high preset with DLSS3 Quality, or 1440p Medium with DLSS Balanced or so.

And if it supports frame generation then you can probably add half again as much performance even with the lowly 3060. At least we have tricks to fall back on (dlssg-to-fsr3 mod).

But with no upscaling or frame gen? Yeah, 1080p60hz medium preset sounds about right for these kind of graphics for a 3060 level card.

 

[Gaiff]

Of course they need improvement, the game is full of shitty textures, like any other open world game.

Then I wouldn't hold my breath for that. If the game is rife with shitty textures, it has little to do with the hardware and more to do with the time and resources it would take to rework every texture to look good. My guess is the highest texture preset on PC will be identical to the one on the PS5. Unless of course, they add some super textures that require 16GB+ of VRAM but I don't think it's happening.

 

[Kokoloko85]

Then i'm just gonna buy their port at a super cheap price because lazy ports don't deserve my money.

Didnt you just thumbs up a post saying its a trash game? Why would you buy a trash game?

 

[Gaiff]

3060 user here. I bet it will do 1080p60hz high preset with DLSS3 Quality, or 1440p Medium with DLSS Balanced or so.

And if it supports frame generation then you can probably add half again as much performance even with the lowly 3060. At least we have tricks to fall back on (dlssg-to-fsr3 mod).

But with no upscaling or frame gen? Yeah, 1080p60hz medium preset sounds about right for these kind of graphics for a 3060 level card.

The 3060 can't do frame generation with DLSS...you'd have to use FSR frame generation.

 

[Elysium44]

3060 user here. I bet it will do 1080p60hz high preset with DLSS3 Quality, or 1440p Medium with DLSS Balanced or so.

And if it supports frame generation then you can probably add half again as much performance even with the lowly 3060. At least we have tricks to fall back on (dlssg-to-fsr3 mod).

But with no upscaling or frame gen? Yeah, 1080p60hz medium preset sounds about right for these kind of graphics for a 3060 level card.

These kind of graphics... that a base PS4 manages to do.

 

[Gaiff]

These kind of graphics... that a base PS4 manages to do.

It's not. The PS4 uses an entirely different graphics preset compared to the PS5. This isn't the PS4 version.

 

[Xdrive05]

The 3060 can't do frame generation with DLSS...you'd have to use FSR frame generation.

You have to mod it in with dlssg-to-fsr3. Takes about 45 seconds to set up.

For example, I've been playing Cyberpunk 2077 with full path tracing and ray reconstruction thanks to frame generation at over 70fps average thanks to that mod.

 

[Mister Wolf]

The Frame Gen should come in handy.

 

[Elysium44]

It's not. The PS4 uses an entirely different graphics preset compared to the PS5. This isn't the PS4 version.

Other than frame rate it isn't very different. Much like the TLOU II 'remaster' which is largely just an FPS boost.



The 3060 should be able to run the game at 1080p or even 1440p maxed out at 60fps without breaking a sweat. The 8th gen (aka 10th gen) Intel CPU recommended also blows the PS4 out of the water and even outperforms the mid PS5 CPU.

 

[Mister Wolf]

You have to mod it in with dlssg-to-fsr3. Takes about 45 seconds to set up.

For example, I've been playing Cyberpunk 2077 with full path tracing and ray reconstruction thanks to frame generation at over 70fps average thanks to that mod.

How's the input lag at that low of an input framerate?

 

[Mr Moose]

Other than frame rate it isn't very different. Much like the TLOU II 'remaster' which is largely just an FPS boost.



The 3060 should be able to run the game at 1080p or even 1440p maxed out at 60fps without breaking a sweat. The 8th gen (aka 10th gen) Intel CPU recommended also blows the PS4 out of the water and even outperforms the mid PS5 CPU.

 

[Xdrive05]

How's the input lag at that low of an input framerate?

It's really responsive in Cyberpunk at those settings, but I do use the nvidia low latency options with it, and more importantly I also use an xbox controller as my character build plays better with a controller (assassin, samurai, movement-focused rather an FPS aiming focused). If used mouse look I would probably perceive a delay? Haven't tried it but that's likely as the base refresh is probably around 45 or so.

 

[Gaiff]

Other than frame rate it isn't very different. Much like the TLOU II 'remaster' which is largely just an FPS boost.



The 3060 should be able to run the game at 1080p or even 1440p maxed out at 60fps without breaking a sweat. The 8th gen (aka 10th gen) Intel CPU recommended also blows the PS4 out of the water and even outperforms the mid PS5 CPU.

According to DF: On paper, this sounds like outright butchery but in actual gameplay, what we're actually seeing is a carefully curated equivalent to 'PC low settings' up against an all-out ultra-class experience on PlayStation 5.

And if you do believe they aren't very different, then the PS5 isn't faring very well either since it's running a PS4 game at 1600x1800 at 60fps but it's something like 8x the power of the PS4. Furthermore, we have yet to know what settings the PS5 uses compared to PC. Is it comparable to Medium? High? Very High? Because if it's a mix of Medium/High or just Medium, then it isn't that much above the 3060 which is weaker than the PS5's GPU anyway. Your one big benefit over the PS5 is better ray tracing and DLSS.

You guys are already trying to shit on PC when we haven't even got a comparison out. And you of all people should know that the 12TFlops narrative is moronic and has always been.

 

[Senua]

Other than frame rate it isn't very different. Much like the TLOU II 'remaster' which is largely just an FPS boost.



The 3060 should be able to run the game at 1080p or even 1440p maxed out at 60fps without breaking a sweat. The 8th gen (aka 10th gen) Intel CPU recommended also blows the PS4 out of the water and even outperforms the mid PS5 CPU.

It was hard to tell much from that super compressed 1080p youtube video

 

[Elysium44]

They're the same picture.

 

[GymWolf]

Didnt you just thumbs up a post saying its a trash game? Why would you buy a trash game?

Did i thumbed up by mistake? I wanted to put a fire emoticon instead.

I have more than 100 hours in the game and it is the sequel of my past gotg.

You can find my short opinion on the game in the recent alteredbeast topic.

P.s. just checked, yeah it was the fire emojy.

 

[Mr Moose]

They're the same picture.

 

[Topher]

They're the same picture.

 

[Gaiff]

They're the same picture.

Alright so the PS5 is running a PS4 game at 1600x1800 and 60fps? Why would you expect the 3060 to do better?