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Which console manufacturer has exceeded your expectations this generation?

Jigsaw said:
it has way more even without the nis stuff

if you talk about quality jrpgs i hope you don't mean magna carta or infinite undiscovery...all that's left then is lost odyssey and blue dragon
What are these games?

PS3
Final Fantasy XIII
Demon's Souls
Disgaea 3
Disgaea 4
White Knight Chronicles 1
White Knight Chronicles 2
Eternal Sonata
Trinity: Souls of Zill O'll
Cross Edge
Valkyria Chronicles
Hyperdimension Neptunia
Trinity Universe
Ar tonelico Qoga: Knell of Ar Ciel
Enchanted Arms
Atelier Rorona:The Alchemists of Arland
Resonance of Fate
Star Ocean: Last Hope International
Wizardry: Labyrinth of Lost Souls
Last Rebellion
Folklore
Nier

Xbox 360

Enchanted Arms
Final Fantasy XIII
Blue Dragon
Tales of Vesperia
Infinite Undiscovery
Manga Carta 2
Eternal Sonata
Nier
Star Ocean 4
The Last Remnant
Lost Odyssey
Resonance of Fate

Yeah I guess PS3 does have more rpgs. More crap that is.
 

ghst

thanks for the laugh
watership said:
Not that I'm complaining... okay I'm complaining. But I knew this thread would go this way.

OP - "What console do you like in your console if you had a choice of console console?"
GAF - "PC"
when i get to building that time machine, i'm gonna make a quick stop off in 2005 give myself a screenshot of this post

...

OR MAYBE I ALREADY DID.
 

sykoex

Lost all credibility.
I'd have to go with Sony. Which is pretty impressive considering the lofty claims they originally made with the PS3.
 

Doomskull

Neo Member
Jigsaw said:
uncharted 2

Uncharted 2 is a beautiful game and possibly the best looking console game (although arguably games on the 360, including Red Dead Redemption are just has impressive graphically; also Gears 3 looks like a show case for the 360).

But you have missed the point.

Yes, there may be the odd game or 2 on PS3 that looks better than any 360 exclusive. But the difference isn't significant and there are only a handful of examples (and even then it is arguable).

The PS3 was marketed as being much more powerful so my expectations were that the games on that system would consistently be significantly better looking and better performing than the Microsoft competitor.

This didn't happen. Only a raving one-eyed Sony fanboy would argue otherwise. Therefore, I was disappointed by the PS3, as great as the games are on that system.
 
The Wii, took a while to get some steam but eventually it got the two greatest video games ever made, and lot of good gems you can't get anywhere else. I still think it's a distant third when measuring library quality, but it grew on me and gets a bad rap.

However, waggle has always blown and will always blow.
 

Shambles

Member
Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo have all fallen on their faces embarassingly. I have zero faith in any of those companies in the next generation and don't see myself moving away from the PC anytime soon unless there are durastic changes.
 

jj984jj

He's a pretty swell guy in my books anyway.
None of the consoles really exceeded my expectations, but only the Wii was somewhat disappointing. What this generation really made me realize how consoles are nowhere near as necessary as they were 10 years ago and I'll probably upgrade my PC before buying another console at this point. I'm sure I'll have more than enough games to play thanks to digital download services like Steam and GOG.

On the other hand handhelds really impressed me, I thought they were leaps ahead of what we've seen before. I probably have more games for DS and PSP individually than I do for either HD console. I'll definitely be picking up either a 3DS or Vita later on, depending on how their library builds up.

Overall, I guess I was satisfied by Sony and Nintendo the most. Putting the fact that Microsoft doesn't have a handheld since it's not fair to hold that against them, I think they gave up a lot of great relationships with 3rd party developers to satisfy 3rd party publishers. I guess it doesn't make sense to complain about that really, and Microsoft didn't disappoint me with the 360 since I think I got quite a bit out of mine (and XBLA continues to be awesome). At the same time though it made me think Microsoft had given up half way through, that's why I was satisfied by them least and they didn't exceed my expectations but it wasn't disappointing.
 

Doomskull

Neo Member
Shambles said:
Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo have all fallen on their faces embarassingly. I have zero faith in any of those companies in the next generation and don't see myself moving away from the PC anytime soon unless there are durastic changes.

Really? Care to give us some examples to illustrate your point?

Which consoles do you own and why did they not meet your expectations?
 

Sennorin

Banned
All three home consoles disappointed. To the point where my PC and now 3DS have become my main source for gaming. Will buy a Wii U for a new Zelda-game but other than that? Consoles lost their special appeal to me, a good gaming PC is cheap enough to run for years without having to buy new hardware.
 

Jigsaw

Banned
Rahxephon91 said:
Yeah I guess PS3 does have more rpgs. More crap that is.

there's also yakuza 3+4

plus,i didn't ask you to list every single multiplatform jrpg,just list the quality & exclusive stuff ;) let's say metacritic over 80%

360 : 0
ps3 : 3

also,lets take a look at the upcoming (exclusive) jrpgs

360 : 0
ps3 : wkc2,tales of graces f,tales of xillia,ninokuni,aterlier totori & meruru,ffvs13
 

Sky Chief

Member
Shambles said:
Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo have all fallen on their faces embarassingly. I have zero faith in any of those companies in the next generation and don't see myself moving away from the PC anytime soon unless there are durastic changes.

I agree with your first statement but not with your second.

MS and Nintendo came out with guns blazing at the beginning of the gen and have since been on embarrassing downward trajectories considering Kinect, the complete lack of Wii games, and the ridiculous overpricing of the 3DS.

Sony on the other hand made every mistake possible to start the gen and in my opinion were a lost cause but have since almost managed to make up for their blunders by releasing a number of amazing exclusives and adding lots of value to the system. They have also seemed to have hit a huge home run with the Vita. This upwards trajectory has me cautiously optimistic in Sony's plans for the next console generation.

That said, my PC is not going anywhere.
 
Jigsaw said:
there's also yakuza 3+4
Yakuza games aren't rpgs. Just because Sega can't seem to do seemless battles and you have a leveling system that is just like say Crysis 2's skill system does not make you an rpg.
plus,i didn't ask you to list every single multiplatform jrpg,just list the quality & exclusive stuff ;) let's say metacritic over 80%
Ok lets do that then.

PS3-Valkryia Chronicles
Xbox-Lost Odyssey, Manga Carta 2, Blue Dragon, Tales of Vesperia.

360 still seems like a better option to me. I'm going to ingore the metacrtic thing because why does that matter?

360 : 0
ps3 : wkc2,tales of graces f,tales of xillia,ninokuni,aterlier totori & meruru,ffvs13
Yeah you can wait for those titles, or you can play good games now. Your choice. Besides my orginal point was that the 360 is a well rounded system. You pick it up, you still have quality jrpgs and in my opinion better jrpgs then what the PS3 offers. Fine PS3 has more though.
 
Some firmware updates impressed me a lot.

Microsoft not only changed the UI multiple times, they added features like cross game chat and optional installs which even work on games released at launch. And somehow the PS3 was future proof enough to be a 3D Bluray player.
 
Rahxephon91 said:
Yakuza games aren't rpgs. Just because Sega can't seem to do seemless battles and you have a leveling system that is just like say Crysis 2's skill system does not make you an rpg.
Ok lets do that then.

PS3-Valkryia Chronicles
Xbox-Lost Odyssey, Manga Carta 2, Blue Dragon, Tales of Vesperia.

360 still seems like a better option to me. I'm going to ingore the metacrtic thing because why does that matter?

Or you'll ignore it because none of the game you listed have a metacritic score of 80 or higher. ;)
 
Rahxephon91 said:
Yakuza games aren't rpgs. Just because Sega can't seem to do seemless battles and you have a leveling system that is just like say Crysis 2's skill system does not make you an rpg.
Ok lets do that then.

PS3-Valkryia Chronicles
Xbox-Lost Odyssey, Manga Carta 2, Blue Dragon, Tales of Vesperia.

360 still seems like a better option to me. I'm going to ingore the metacrtic thing because why does that matter?

Yeah you can wait for those titles, or you can play good games now. Your choice. Besides my orginal point was that the 360 is a well rounded system. You pick it up, you still have quality jrpgs and in my opinion better jrpgs then what the PS3 offers. Fine PS3 has more though.
Valkyria Chronicles is significantly more of a straight up strategy game than an RPG (the "rpg elements" in VC are super hollow but it's still an amazing game). Honestly I can say I felt more of an RPG feel from Yakuza than VC when I take everything in consideration.
 
outunderthestars said:
Or you'll ignore it because none of the game you listed have a metacritic score of 80 or higher. ;)
Yes Tales of Versperia the game that a good portion of jrpg GAF thinks is one of the best jrpgs this gen has a lower metacritic score then Final Fantasy XIII.

It's like metacritic is only important when it helps your argument, any other time its the spawn of satan.
 
Rahxephon91 said:
Yes Tales of Versperia the game that a good portion of GAF thinks is one of the best jrpgs this gen has a lower metacritic score then Final Fantasy XIII.

It's like metacritic is only important when you have an argument, any other time its the spawn of satan.


It's the closest thing to an objective barometer of a game's critical reception.

must....resist.....avatar......quote.....
 
There are oodles of misinformed yet geniune opinions in this thread, many of which I agree and disagree with.

Xbox 360:
First off, as a Gamestop employee, to all those saying "My OG 360 never RROD'ed...", please think about it on a larger scale for just one minute. I've dealt with HUNDREDS of failed XBOX360's over the past 3 years. It's been terrible. I remember selling christmas 360's to parents only to see them return them in February with RROD.

Just because it wasn't 100% doesn't mean it is a non-issue. On other hardware fronts, the terrible DVD scratching issues, using a tray-loaded drive in a system that, for all intents and purposes, will at some point be moved during play, seems silly. Not jumping onto Blu-ray or at least using HD-DVD as a proprietary games disc format (akin to the Wii U's road-map as of right now) was a misstep. The hardware down to the wire though slightly outpreforms the PS3, and the controller and ability to use a hard drive made it a bit better. The current USB solution also improved the situation greatly.

Software wise I understand the trepidation and appreciation on both sides. Their use of organization and support of indie developers helped push the XBLA to the top. XBLA has a far better indie scene than PC or PS3 ever did. At the same time, I think its inexcusable for us as consumers to push out $50-60 a year for online play, when competitors offer it for free.
And the argument that it comes with a more reliable service is bulls$#t, because it's literally forcing competitors to follow similar paths, charging for basic services instead of premium. Next gen you can guarantee we will be paying for online-passes for every game, on top of $50-100 a year for matchmaking and the ability to use 3rd party applications such as Netflix, instead of competing to make a better online infrastructure, for free, that makes the console an overall more desirable platform to purchase as a whole.

The controller, the aesthetics, the online features (ignoring the payments) and the game content have all gone above my expectations though, so I go into next gen 40(for)-60(against) on the Microsoft Front.

PS3:
Software and service wise, Sony has won me over. Free online, a ad-free user interface (when on your home console screen), their welcome back program, the recent collusion with Valve, and their intiation of little improvements such as cloud-saves, auto-updates through Plus, and Plus itself (charging for actual content and premium services, not basic ones). And the games have all been excellent extensions to previous IP's, the creation of new interesting and innovative ones, and a consistent effort to combine next-gen visuals with industry-standard gameplay.

Hardware wise they also won. Setting a higher standard with Blu-ray: a 100% superior product (scratch resistant, more disk space, HD video content, uncompressed audio), hard-drives as a feature, not a option, better manufacturing, bluetooth headset compatibility, rechargeable controllers out of the box, non-porprietary hardware (controllers use industry standard usb cables, system uses a standard AC power cable, hdmi does not block off optical and audio options) and backwards compatible standard AV/component cables. Also the controller has a bloody normal D-pad.
Then they went for just basic smaller size, quieter and slimmer form, and less power consumption. An unnecessary upgrade (unlike a forced or suggested one).

But as a company running the brand, they failed on all accounts. Shitty security in 2010, the revoking of advertised features (Other OS, backwards compatibility), failure to meet with its competitors on other points (still no cross game chat, late Netflix arrival, later DLC dates due to 360 priority deals) and just other ridiculous things. The constant updates, the game installations taking up so much HDD space, and the lack of any real effort to compete with 360 on the DLC stage (only PSX downloadables, few exclusives, fewer whole games). They just really need to change the way they operate when it comes to delivering the content that your customers want.

Oh, and $600 for a console is ludicrous.

I'm 65(for)/35(against) Sony for next generation. I will probably get the PSVita and PS4 within 1-2 years of their launch.

Nintendo:
Not really much to say. It wasn't really a this gen console when it came to the Wii. I didn't like the waggle feature, The nunchuk is really clumsy. and sensor bars are unreliable as a wired device (it should have been built into the system). A HDD with less than 1GB of space is no-go. Use of game-cube controllers with every Wii game that would from a customer standpoint give them a better experience by having the option, should have been there.

Great 1st and okay 3rd party software pulled it through. Smash Bros, Galaxy 1-2, Kirby Epic Yarn, Monster Hunter Tri (for me especially), NSMB Wii, DKCR, Sin and Punishment, Zack and Wiki, No More Heroes, TvC. and all the other okay-to-great games that weren't mini-game bundles pushed me through these past few years.

VC could have been so much more, friend codes are a nightmare, and online is scrapped together poorly.

The DS Lite on the other hand is probably the best handheld ever released, and deserves its 100+ millions sold.

I have no interest in the Wii U, or the 3DS on a hardware level at this point in time. If the 3DS brings the stellar software performance the DS did, count me back on board in a few years, when the console is not $250.

TL;DR: The golden age of hardware is long gone. In my opinion, software is all we have left to look forward to next gen. Lets hope they have some pity for us and leave us some free-reign with this next batch of consoles.
 

Eusis

Member
Jigsaw said:
there's also yakuza 3+4

plus,i didn't ask you to list every single multiplatform jrpg,just list the quality & exclusive stuff ;) let's say metacritic over 80%

360 : 0
ps3 : 3
Now that's not particularly fair, while normally 80's a good limit a lot of the JRPGs worth bothering with on the 360 missed that mark by just a point or two. How about we lower it to 75 and see what we get?

360:
Tales of Vesperia
Blue Dragon
Lost Odyssey

PS3:
Demon's Souls
Disgaea 3
Valkyria Chronicles
Folklore
Yakuza 3
Yakuza 4

Heck, I wouldn't count the Yakuza games myself, so that'd leave it with only a one game difference. Granted, Demon's Souls and Valkyria Chronicles are WAY better than the 360 selection, but it's still a small handful of exclusives worth bothering with on each console, plus the 360 will share Dark Souls at the least.

It's undeniable that the lack of upcoming titles IS a problem though.
 
outunderthestars said:
It's the closest thing to an objective barometer of a game's critical reception.

must....resist.....avatar......quote.....
Good, I can now use metacrtic as proof that FFXIII is in fact a good game in an argument on here and that shouldn't backfire at all.

Also I'm not sure what A Devil May Cry avatar has to do with anything, but whatever. I guess I should avatar quote you as it's based on a Sony property, because obviously it means something...
 

Sethos

Banned
360 by far, they won me over and gave me a long PC dry spell.

Don't use anything from Nintendo and Sony I loathe with a passion.
 
Eusis said:
Now that's not particularly fair, while normally 80's a good limit a lot of the JRPGs worth bothering with on the 360 missed that mark by just a point or two. How about we lower it to 75 and see what we get?

360:
Tales of Vesperia
Blue Dragon
Lost Odyssey

PS3:
Demon's Souls
Disgaea 3
Valkyria Chronicles
Folklore
Yakuza 3
Yakuza 4

Heck, I wouldn't count the Yakuza games myself, so that'd leave it with only a one game difference. Granted, Demon's Souls and Valkyria Chronicles are WAY better than the 360 selection, but it's still a small handful of exclusives worth bothering with on each console, plus the 360 will share Dark Souls at the least.

It's undeniable that the lack of upcoming titles IS a problem though.

at that threshold 3d dot game heroes makes the cut
 
Rahxephon91 said:
Good, I can now use metacrtic as proof that FFXIII is in fact a good game in an argument on here and that shouldn't backfire at all.

Also I'm not sure what A Devil May Cry avatar has to do with anything, but whatever. I guess I should avatar quote you as it's based on a Sony property, because obviously it means something...


sorry, I meant tag quote....... :)

Rahxephon91
I have bad taste.
 

xbhaskarx

Member
a Master Ninja said:
Some firmware updates impressed me a lot.

Microsoft not only changed the UI multiple times, they added features like cross game chat and optional installs which even work on games released at launch. And somehow the PS3 was future proof enough to be a 3D Bluray player.

This is a good point to balance out all the people complaining about this generation of consoles... so is downloadable games.
 

Eusis

Member
outunderthestars said:
at that threshold 3d dot game heroes makes the cut
Forgot about that, though you could argue 3D Dot Game Heroes treads the same problem Zelda faces in whether it's an RPG or not. I'd put it closer than Yakuza though, way closer.

And admittedly those great PS3 games aren't traditional JRPGs for the most part anyway, if you want that you're still better suited with the 360 if you must play them in HD. If not though, well, it's been iterated countless times how great handhelds are this generation for JRPGs.
 
From the actual performance of the hardware/s themselves nothing has truly blown me away technically on any platform. The Wii squandered it's potential in quite a few ways, the 360 was simply unreliable, and the PS3's price and multimeda functionality was largely oversold vs. actual performance. All in all, every console this gen was extremely overpriced for what you end up getting in the end.

On a software level, for my tastes the 360 and Wii were the best, particularly 1st party Nintendo and XBLA stuff.

On a security-level the 360 is ironically the only console which remained somewhat secure. I tend to think if the manufacturers are smart all future consoles will follow a similar OS/security/update policy going forward.
 
Eusis said:
Forgot about that, though you could argue 3D Dot Game Heroes treads the same problem Zelda faces in whether it's an RPG or not. I'd put it closer than Yakuza though, way closer.

And admittedly those great PS3 games aren't traditional RPGs for the most part anyway, if you want that you're still better suited with the 360 if you must play them in HD. If not though, well, it's been iterated countless times how great handhelds are this generation for JRPGs.


Oh, I don't argue what makes an rpg or what makes a good one. Arguing genres is futile. :)
 
2 years ago I would have said Microsoft, but now I'm firmly in Sony's camp. They have really turned it around this gen and many of my most anticipated games are coming to their console whether through exclusives or multiplatform releases. I haven't fired up my 360 in many months except for a quick Rock Band session.
 

Ravage

Member
Rahxephon91 said:
PS3-Valkryia Chronicles
Xbox-Lost Odyssey, Manga Carta 2, Blue Dragon, Tales of Vesperia.

360 still seems like a better option to me. I'm going to ingore the metacrtic thing because why does that matter?

Wow what a one-sided post. Personally, I enjoyed Atelier Rorona more than every game on that list excluding maybe Vesperia. BD in particular, was absolutely horrible and you think Magna Carta 2 is better than WKC? Really? And I see you conveniently chose to ignore Demon's Souls.

I don't know, it seem that every 360 RPG worth playing has turned multiplatform and buying one now makes little sense when its future JRPG lineup is completely barren compared to the PS3.
 

Slayer-33

Liverpool-2
You got to admit, MS did a fucking hell of a job digging themselves in the market with the 360 after the original XBOX (which wasn't a failure) but the 360 is such a huge success vs it overall. XBL is a monumental success at this point.

The 360 is so mainstream and loved that it's kind of hard to believe it's a MS product (as a device) MS just needs to cover more bases with the first party titles and branch out to different genres.

FPS's with GoW/Halo (as much as you may be sick of it) and racing with the Forza franchises are already excellent top level quality pieces of software for the future.

They just need to get more Sony-esque first party titles going for nextbox720.


MS gets the nod from me because Sony doing what they are doing is not surprising to me (they couldn't kill the hugely popular PS brand despite the huge economic problem in the country and launching at insane console prices but they are still here, + the other shit of crap they dealth with). MS has been the big surprise by far. They are sticking with the big boys. The hard work has paid off despite the RROD issues that cost them big, they have really operated and marketed the system really well.
 

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
None of them have exceeded my expectations, or even satisfied them.

If I have to choose a favorite at this point... well, I can't. Unless I can choose Valve for Steam.
 
maybe because I'm bias to Sony or that I only own Sony home console, but the impression I got is that Sony is the most tenacious, hardworking, never give up attitude that really appeal to me this gen (with their focus on games of course) they endure so much shit but still keep going. if this is Sega, they'd have probably folded long ago.

if Sony ever be a market leader again, I'm sure the movie will be awesome. Sony's fall from grace and struggle to get back to the throne.
 
Ravage said:
Wow what a one-sided post. Personally, I enjoyed Atelier Rorona more than every game on that list excluding maybe Vesperia. BD in particular, was absolutely horrible and you think Magna Carta 2 is better than WKC? Really? And I see you conveniently chose to ignore Demon's Souls.

I don't know, it seem that every 360 RPG worth playing has turned multiplatform and buying one now makes little sense when its future JRPG lineup is completely barren compared to the PS3.
One sided? One sided against what? It's my own opinion. If I'm one sided then what is this post?

Personally, I think Lost Odyssey is one of the best jrpgs released this gen. Blue Dragon is a very solid traditional jrpg and one of the best jrpgs this gen. Magna Carta 2 is also a very solid jrpg style game, much better then WKC1, I doubt 2 is an actual big improvement. So no for someone who is picking up a system now who plays more then 1 genre, then the 360 is a solid choice, it's not lacking in jrps. I didn't put Demon Souls in that post list because I don't like the game, simple as that.
 

Auto_aim1

MeisaMcCaffrey
Ravage said:
Wow what a one-sided post. Personally, I enjoyed Atelier Rorona more than every game on that list excluding maybe Vesperia. BD in particular, was absolutely horrible and you think Magna Carta 2 is better than WKC? Really? And I see you conveniently chose to ignore Demon's Souls.

I don't know, it seem that every 360 RPG worth playing has turned multiplatform and buying one now makes little sense when its future JRPG lineup is completely barren compared to the PS3.

Yep, that's why I didn't bother responding to that post, but the PS3 did have a poor JRPG lineup when it launched, and that is undeniable.
 

Ravage

Member
Meisadragon said:
Yep, that's why I didn't bother responding to that post, but the PS3 did have a poor JRPG lineup when it launched, and that is undeniable.

That's true, there was Folklore and nothing else for the first 2 years. It was really bad >.<

Situation has changed though, both the PS3 and Wii are a must for JRPG fans right now.
 
Microsoft, by FAR.

I was a huge PS2 lover, and the only reason I liked Xbox back then was because of Halo. I had no idea that this would be the console I spend 90% of my time with. I love it.
 

Christine

Member
You see me now a veteran of a couple console wars
I've been posting on the GAF so long
Where the nerds rage and uproar
And I'm young enough to look good
And far too proud to say
I'm a fanboy on the inside
I'm not sure if there's anything worth a play

Don't let these posts go on
It's time we had a break from it
It's time we skipped E3
We've been hyping shitty games
We've been eating up our brains
Oh, please don't let these posts go on

You ask me why I'm jaded, can't let nostalgia go
You blame me for my bias
Tell me to stop being shallow
But the war's still going on dear
And there's no end that I see
And I can't say if there's ever...
Ever gonna be anything worth a play

Don't let these posts go on
It's time we had a break from it
It's time we skipped E3
We've been hyping shitty games
We've been eating up our brains
Oh, please don't let these posts go on

You see me now a veteran of a couple console wars
My venom is spent at last
And my insouciance is destroyed
I have used up all my sarcasm; my precious acerbity
Trolling is all I have left
Did I hear you say that this is victory?

Don't let these posts go on
It's time we had a break from it
Send me to the rear
Where the rants of fanboys fade
And I'm out of the crusade
Oh, please don't let these posts go on
Don't let these posts go on
Don't let these posts go on
 

The Shift

Banned
outunderthestars said:
In my opinion it has become a system for Dudebro games. :(

The PS3 is the dudebro console though. Just look at Sony's first/second party studio output this gen. Seriously, hate to list-battle but all of these titles have raging dudebro qualities to varying degrees -

Uncharted Series
SOCOM Series
Motorstorm Series
Resistance Series
Warhawk/Starhawk Series
Killzone Series
God Of War Series
MAG

It seems Sony is given a free pass with the dudebro critique whilst MS with what, 2 dudebro IP's in Halo and Gears Of War gets dumped in the gutter. I'm not counting COD or BF as both titles are 3rd party releases. Sony, for me anyway just oozes dudebro with the games mentioned above. Aside from that, The Last Guardian and Journey are the only titles on Playstation that have interested me this gen.
 
The Wii exceeded my expectations but didn't satisfy me.

I loved the amount of first party Nintendo games that came out, but the non existent 3rd party support means I had to wait for a major Nintendo release before dusting it off.

But the quality of those first parties were so damn good, but yet everything else was so damn bad.
 
MS. I didn't really like the original Xbox. I bought it to play Street Fighter anniversary online and Phantom Dust.

The 360 has been my go-to platform for quite some time this gen. I have one sealed PS3 game (God of War collection) and the Wii is used mainly when we've got company over.

Quite the change. I was a PS2 guy last gen.

Part of it is the lack of JRPGs. Only one I've really liked is Lost Odyssey (just finishing it up this week, hopefully...been playing it for like a year).
 

Reuenthal

Banned
None of them exceeded my expectations as a console manufacturer. In fact on that issue, Microsoft disappointed with hardware problems, Sony with creating a too expensive system, and Nintendo used pretty old hardware. However both Microsoft and Sony did create pretty powerful systems for the time and Nintendo did introduce motion controls. Overall hit and miss. Positives and negatives.

On other issues that don't have with console manufacturing: Microsoft brought the best online service which is a big plus, Sony brought in the best game library although not really that much greatly different than Xbox and improved its online service which was free, Nintendo brought in some great games and some motion control games that are popular with the masses as far as the Wii was concerned and it was the cheapest system which is as always a big positive. it had also had the weakest overall library and weak online. And now seems to lack proper support from Nintendo. But DS had a pretty great game library.

I guess Sony did the worst as a console manufacturer creating a more expensive for them system than Xbox was to Microsoft, and with that 599 price tag and a year later.

On recent years though, I am more in favor of the pricing and hardware of Vita in comparison to 3DS. Although Vita does release later. Sony seems to have learned some lessons from PS3.
 

Lerozz

Member
Exceeded ? None. Worst generation so far when it comes to the HD consoles' reliabilities.

I am fine with my PS3 slim. Not really missing 360 (GF has one) or Wii.
 

daviyoung

Banned
Weenerz said:
PC, because it rocks shit.

As project manager of my PC I would like to take this opportunity to thank Corsair, Intel, Gainward, Samsung, Crucial and all the other members of my team who, without their successful and timely work packages and configuration items, gave me a green-lit low-risk PC in a matter of days.
 
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